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Title: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Jerry Keller on January 16, 2010, 01:44:41 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55718 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55718)
Hello again,

Does anyone know where the transfer switch is located in a 2006 Allure 430 Hood River? My book says it is located behind the main breaker panel in the cabinets above the bed, however my main breaker panel is located in the living room in the cabinet across from my refrigerator.
I'm still working on diagnosing the electrical problems, I'm waiting on an electrician, but I thought it would help if I could tell the guy where the transfer switch is located.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

Jerry Keller

2006 Allure 430 #31347
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Al on January 16, 2010, 01:47:41 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55719 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55719)
How were your batteries ?
AL

00 affinity #5851
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Jerry Keller on January 16, 2010, 02:37:32 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55720 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55720)
Hi Al,

The batteries tested fine. I think its the transfer switch, which I located in a box beside the surge protector. I get power to the surge guard from the power post, and right after the time delay activates, the surge guard clicks off again. Power gets to the transfer switch, but none comes out. When I run the generator, power is coming out of both ends of both of the transfer switches in the box. I'm now trying to find a replacement somewhere here in Las Vegas.
I'll let you know if that was the problem.
Thanks so much for the help and suggestions, Jerry
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Electra3131 on January 16, 2010, 04:34:10 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55722 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55722)
Jerry, power from the generator does not run thought the surge protector. That's why the system works OK using the generator. If plugged into shore power the surge protector cuts out after the 2 minute wait period, might be the transfer switch and might be a GFI outlet. You might try tuning off all the breakers in both the main and sub panels for 120v service inside the coach. Then plug the coach back into shore power and see if the surge protector cuts out. If it cuts out with all the breaker off then transfer switch would be suspect. If the surge protector does not cut out, turn on one breaker at a time. Wait a few minutes and turn another breaker on. When the surge protector cuts out you'll know which circuit to look at. This happened to me and I found the cheap GFI outlet CC used for the frig had a loose wire. Reset all the wires in that outlet and my problem went away. Outlets are cheaper than a new transfer switch. Hope that works.

Dave

07 Inspire 52060
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Chuck & Mary B on January 16, 2010, 10:21:32 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55725 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55725)
If the surge protector is cutting out after a two minute wait, could be a floating (loose) neutral or ground. That could happen when the circuit is under a load. I'd try a different power post first.

Chuck & Mary B

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Rich on January 17, 2010, 10:26:49 am
Yahoo Message Number: 55729 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55729)
Jerry,

Hadn't seen these posts. It could simply be a bad surge guard as I said. Smell yours, if it smells burned it is gone even if the lights show no faults. If it is the surge guard, get one from Progressive Industries. The SurgeGuard brand is vastly inferior.

Rich 2002 Magna
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: David Tuttle on January 17, 2010, 11:30:10 am
Yahoo Message Number: 55731 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55731)

Rich

I am just curious, why do you say the surgeguard is vastly inferior? It does have a higher joules rating. I am just wondering because I like to keep on top. If my surge protection goes bad I would like to have a handle on what to replace it with.

Dave

ddtuttle

aka Billy Byte (trusty hound)
2000 Allure #30443


Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Lee Zaborowski on January 17, 2010, 11:38:46 am
Yahoo Message Number: 55732 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55732)
Dave, I agree with Rich. You ought to go to the Progressive EMS site and read up on the details. Just a thought.
I have one of their units unstalled in my coach am very happy with it.

--

Lee Zaborowski
07 Intrigue 12153

Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Chuck & Mary B on January 17, 2010, 07:53:16 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55743 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55743)
Hi Jerry,

Take a look at the Progressive Industries EMSHW50C www.progressiveindustries.net (http://www.progressiveindustries.net) The surge joules rating is a lot higher than most all in the market place.

Chuck & Mary B

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Ramjetcal_01 on January 17, 2010, 08:04:39 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55744 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55744)
Hi Jerry

The best price for the EMS-HW50C is with www.rvupgrades.com (http://www.rvupgrades.com) Progressive is $409.00 and rv upgrades is $349.70,

Jerry

2004 Inspire 51012
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Chuck & Mary B on January 17, 2010, 08:07:44 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55745 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55745)
Hi David,

Try a Joule rating of 3560 with a response time of less than 1 nano second. If the unit detects a open neutral, it will not let the voltage in the coach. Same response time if the neutral comes open when hooked up to power.

Chuck & Mary B

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Tom Fisher_01 on January 17, 2010, 08:40:08 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55746 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55746)
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Try a Joule rating of 3560 with a response time of less than 1 nano second.
If the unit detects a open neutral, it will not let the voltage in the >coach. Same >response time if the neutral comes open when hooked up to >power.
What if the open neutral occurs *after* the system is connected. Can the unit respond fast enough?
TF
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Chuck & Mary B on January 17, 2010, 10:10:30 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55748 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55748)
Hi TBoone,

I'll repeat, same responce time if the neutral comes open after the power is on.

Chuck & Mary B

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat
Title: Re: Transfer switch on 2006 Allure 430
Post by: Tom Fisher_01 on January 18, 2010, 07:28:02 am
Yahoo Message Number: 55750 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55750)
Quote
Hi TBoone,

I'll repeat, same responce time if the neutral comes open after the power >is on.

Try a Joule rating of 3560 with a response time of less than 1 nano second.
If the unit detects a open neutral, it will not let the voltage in the >coach.

Same response time if the neutral comes open when hooked up to >power.
You are saying that if the neutral opens up *after* the system has connected

power to the coach, it will disconnect power in less than one nano second???

TF