Yahoo Message Number: 66208 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66208)
I'm still seeking info about putting Sat. on my RV and I'm being told that the only way to go is with the open face dish VS the Dome. They say HD is the best, reception is the best. What i'm putting on is going to be for using at camp grounds etc, not going down the road. What do all think ??? Jack 2004 Allure 31006
Yahoo Message Number: 66213 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66213)
Jack,
I have the open dish from MotoSat and as far as I am concerned, it is the only way to go. I think there is only one dome that can receive the HD stuff so you are pretty limited. You will be much happier with an open dish.
Don
'02 Intrigue #11427
Yahoo Message Number: 66215 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66215)
I agree.
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Lee Zaborowski
07 Intrigue 12153, Cat C-13
Yahoo Message Number: 66219 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66219)
Compare MotoSat and Winegard. Although MotoSat was the best system for several years, Winegard came out with an auto dish that is a couple hundred dollars cheaper and software that never needs updating. I've had both and I would recommend Winegard. They are both open face dishs and only used when stationary.
Jim E
Yahoo Message Number: 66220 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66220)
I had a MotoStat on the CC when we purchased it. Could not give it away. Took it off and tossed it. Winegard is lots, lots lighter and works great.
Leonard 97' Magna 5418
Yahoo Message Number: 66221 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66221)
Jack, open face is the best solution for you given the requirements you have posted.
George in Birmingham
'04 Allure 31038
Yahoo Message Number: 66227 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66227)
Jack.
If you are asking about HD vs standard def, you should first check if your TV's are capable of, and wired for HD. If not, you will have to increase your budget.
If you don't care about the HD image, which may be more and more a factor if you are like me, and your vision needs all the help it can get as they eyeballs get older, you can probably find a dealer with a good used standard def dish. Most dealers will likely have some laying around from upgrading customers to HD.
Mike Edwards
03 Lexa
Yahoo Message Number: 66238 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66238)
Yes - avoid the domed dishes;
Yes - get HD, it's better;
Yes - get DVR, it gives you a lot more flexibility in viewing times No - you don't need in-motion
Yes - find a qualified installer so that it will all work!
What other info do you need?
I have Motosat, it's very good - easy upgrades with the removable SD card Also installed a 40" LED Samsung - the picture quality with HD feed is fantastic.
Some like Winegard
Pick your installer and service provider and away you go!!!
Richard Owen '05 Inspire 51442
Yahoo Message Number: 66240 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66240)
Leonard, sounds like you are comparing an internet dish by motosat to a tv dish by winegard. Big difference in size and wt. The tv product weighs about the same, Motosat has a 3 year warranty, Winegard much less, Motosat can be repaired by almost anyone with a couple tools if it does go bad, which is very rare, and Winegard, must be sent into factory if it has a problem. I do know that they work very well so far, and are finally a decent system now, after many years of nothing but almost junk from them. Motosat only business is RV SAt and TV, and do believe the do the best job. Also, no dome is available that will do direct tv HD, but there are some that can do Dish Net. Still perfer Direct tv myself.
Dale Morris 91 savanna #4702
Yahoo Message Number: 66241 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66241)
We have the dome now. We plan to urgrade in 2012. New cabinets, larger LCD etc up front. We will also be upgrading to HD and plan on an HD open dish. Dome is not good in rain, fog or even a little damp.
Ken 2007 Beaver Contessa
Yahoo Message Number: 66242 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66242)
Richard,
Agree with all.
Who reworked the cabinet for the Samsung?
Jay
05 Inspire 51457
Yahoo Message Number: 66243 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66243)
Jay:
Davis Cabinets in Junction City modified the front cabinets. We also had them install powered MCD shades to replace the front drapes, a computer work station, and they did some work on the existing cupboards and pantry.
Their work is so close to factory finish, you can't tell what's new and what isn't.
Major renovations last year - we also removed carpet in the main area (installed engineered flooring), installed solar and AGM batteries, and a new radiator.
Richard Owen '05 Inspire 51442
Yahoo Message Number: 66244 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66244)
Richard
Were you happy with the finish trim work on the MCD shades? Some of the jobs I have seen including two factory installations looked like a back yard mechanic did the final trim work.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Yahoo Message Number: 66245 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66245)
Jack
Reportedly, the new GPS MotoSat's find the satellites much faster. I am happy with our MotoSat set up but just like the hydro hot systems it is good to maintain a list of competent installers and service facilities. Don't rely on MotoSat to tell you who is qualified to work on motor homes. My biggest complaint was authorized installers not having the right equipment to trouble shoot a motor home.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Yahoo Message Number: 66248 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66248)
Leonard
I suspect you were trying to give away the non HD MotoSat. I talked to a lot of tech types and owners of systems before I went with MotoSat and never heard a negative. I have also never heard anyone in the group trying to get rid of their MotoSat HD system. The software upgrades are an issue until you figure it out and they have simplified the process greatly with the newer controllers. I have probably upgraded mine three times in the past 2 ½ years.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Yahoo Message Number: 66249 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66249)
Richard,
When I spoke with davis a few years ago, he said a 32 inch tv was about the most they could fit in the modification up front. Has that view changed?
Rich 2002 Magna
Yahoo Message Number: 66251 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66251)
Dan, I believe he was trying to give away a Datastorm by motosat, that was designed for internet, with a tv option. They were 110 lbs, very slow aquiring satellite, but they did work if set up proper. I have seen many that people want to give away, and I never take em. On the other hand, any motosat tv system, that is not a dome, I will take any anyone wants to give away. They have been great product since 96, and no other company has come close to all their capabilities. I will admit, as I have before, the Winegard of new (within last year maybe two) has been a good system. The first in many years of building what I would consider junk.
Motosat's HD system for tv, weighs in about 35 lbs, and comes with a mounting plate 13.5 in, by 35 inches. The wineguard, is a small round type, putting all the weight in a much smaller area. The fact that no one can fix a problem, and they must be sent to the factory if such is needed is not too good also. I like the fact, that a good service installer, can repair anything on a Motosat right on the coach, with little parts, or ??? The upgrade stuff is easy now, and available 24/7. Motosat controller boxes are easy to set up for any service, unlike Winegard if you decide to change. Dish to Direct or visa versa. Winegard, requires a new complete controller.
A few reasons why I like Motosat, Will say, they have many dealers out there, and only a handfull that really know what they are doing. Finding a mobile dealer, that deals in them always is worth the hunt. As a former Customer service mgr. for Motosat, I know about 10 really good ones, and I also know many more that I could not recommend
I been dealing and selling and repairing their product since 1987.
Hope this will help some make a dicision.
Dale Morris 91 savanna #4702
Yahoo Message Number: 66252 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66252)
The best place to have one installed is at an FMCA Rally. I see the same retailers and their installers at most rallies. They wouldn't return time after time if they were doing shoddy work. I had mine replaced about 5 years ago and the work was excellent, prompt, and has been leak and problem free. Barrie Boas 94 Concept 5111
Yahoo Message Number: 66253 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66253)
Can anyone recommend a good installer for the MotoSat as I am in the Phoenix area for the winter?
Dan Nigro
08 45' Intrigue 12233
Yahoo Message Number: 66273 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66273)
Just have to pipe in here. I have an old Motosat "Executive" on my coach, along with an old Sony receiver. The receiver died, and DirecTV will not authorize any old receivers so I have to buy a newer one. Unfortunately, the old Executive only works with the older receivers, so I have to replace the Executive with a "Nomad" or newer. Anyone know where I can find one?
Al Colby
2000 Intrigue 10979
Yahoo Message Number: 66274 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66274)
Dan: The trim work was excellent - all trims were made of matching wood so it looks like it was built like that from day 1.
The only real issue with adapting the MCD front shade is that the driver's console has that hump extending into the dash which impedes the shade from falling straight down.
However, this is not a big deal. The shades (front and both sides) give full black-out inside the coach.
This MCD modification is one of the best we have done because it eliminated that annoying curtain on the track which continually jumped the track and sent those little rollers falling all over the place.
We love it - just push the button and it's done.
Richard Owen '05 Inspire 51442
Yahoo Message Number: 66276 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66276)
Rich: I don't know about the Magna, but the Samsung 40" fits perfectly between the 2 side cupboards on an Inspire.
It could be that the TV's have changed. This Samsung has very little side bar on it.
Talk to Matt at Innovative Coachworks. He has done this many times and he will know what fits.
Richard Owen '05 Inspire 51442
Yahoo Message Number: 66282 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66282)
Al
Where are looking to have the installation performed?
Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Yahoo Message Number: 66286 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66286)
Al, where are you currently located? New ones available at many good dealers, and also get trade ins often of the earlier Nomad2 or Nomad. The new ones are labled SD-2. they cost about 600. Some websites sell them for about $550. Any of them with proper set up will work with any of the new receivers.
Dale Morris
currently in Indio, CA.
91 Savanna #4702
Yahoo Message Number: 66290 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66290)
We are getting ready to head to Yuma.
Al Colby
2000 Intrigue 10979
Yahoo Message Number: 66291 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66291)
Dale
Send me contact info. I have a friend in the Palm Springs area that need help with Moto Stat Up dates.
Bo Lee
2000 Magna #5896
Yahoo Message Number: 66294 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66294)
Talk to the good folks at Oregon Satellite. 541/912-6690 They offered to buy my old executive when I ordered my HD.
They offer very good advice as well as he may have some used older units. He may know of some way to get your executive working again.
Mike Edwards
03 Lexa
Yahoo Message Number: 66297 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66297)
Al,
You can send your old Sony to their repair center. I have sent mine in 2 times and the turn around time is fast and I think the cost was about $70. I can get you the info if you need it.
Richard Aquino
2001 Intrigue
Yahoo Message Number: 66300 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66300)
Dir tv is now claiming they will no longer ativate the old sonys. if anyone knows different let us know. The Exec 111 controllers with a proper working old sony will still work great. But if they are indeed not activating them any longer, customer will be forced into the purchase of a newer controll box, not needing a Data Port.
Dale Morris
Yahoo Message Number: 66302 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66302)
Dale,
I wanted a backup Sony, since mine was in for repair twice, so got a used one this past January and Directv had to activate it since the serial??? number was different. Don't know if they will still do that or not but I hope so. I have not changed out my old KVH so I have to use the old type of receiver with the data port. If I had just put the original Sony back in, after being repaired, activation would not be required.
Richard Aquino
Intrigue 2001
Yahoo Message Number: 66304 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66304)
Forgot to mention, the low speed data port was one of the biggest failures with the old sonys, but the receiver will work still ok, if you replace to a newer controller from Motosat. But if you ever loose your programing, (not pointed for 30 or more days), DT refuses to rehit them.
Dale Morris
Yahoo Message Number: 66305 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66305)
I have with in the last month, had serveral customers needing a new controll box, because DT would no longer activate the old sony. One of them, had several old sonys, but they just would not turn any on anylonger, The did send out a new box, but then he had to have a new controller.
Also new policy from Direct TV, they will not be available in any store any longer, and only available from them directly, and will have to be shipped to your address they have on there records. Not too fun for the rv world if you have problems.
Obama promised change, maybe this is the one he actually changed.
Dale Morris
Yahoo Message Number: 66314 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66314)
Bo Lee
We were pleased with the work of Mobile Satellite Solutions, Palm Desert Ca 760-401-4000
If you have internet access you should buy the update module from MotoSat.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Yahoo Message Number: 66320 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66320)
Dan, I believe he was trying to give away a Datastorm by motosat, that was designed for internet, with a tv option. They were 110 lbs, very slow aquiring satellite, but they did work if set up proper. I have seen many that people want to give away, and I never take em. On the other hand, any motosat tv system, that is not a dome, I will take any anyone wants to give away. They have been great product since 96, and no other company has come close to all their capabilities. I will admit, as I have before, the Winegard of new (within last year maybe two) has been a good system. The first in many years of building what I would consider junk.
Motosat's HD system for tv, weighs in about 35 lbs, and comes with a mounting plate 13.5 in, by 35 inches.
Yahoo Message Number: 66330 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/66330)
I have 8 or 10 service addresses on file with them by now. I wonder if they would ship to one of those.