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Title: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Allan Colby on March 06, 2011, 08:29:52 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 69065 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69065)
I would like to get input from all that have had one of the following tire pressure systems installed, and what their recommendations are.
Since Smartire does not support the RV industry anymore, they are out. That leaves TST, Pressure Pro and Tire Safeguard, unless I missed somebody.
TST seems economical, but the screw-on-the-end-of-the-valve stem approach bothers me. Too easy to have them stolen
The system that most impresses me is Tire Safeguard, just reading the stuff on the web. You can get the one mounted to the rim, like Smartire was.

Anybody want to chime in?

Al Colby

2000 Intrigue 10979
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Jbennett2cflrr on March 07, 2011, 08:40:40 am
Yahoo Message Number: 69075 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69075)
Have you researched the problem? From what I understand Smart Tire is still in business and catering to the trucking industry. That would require the same equipment your looking for. I have Smart Tire integrated into my 07 Magna and I am very pleased.
John
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Allan Colby on March 07, 2011, 09:32:32 am
Yahoo Message Number: 69077 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69077)
I sent an email to Smartire and they replied with a curt message stating they would not be supporting the RVs anymore. Period. Would not even answer my few questions. So I say to hell with them. I don't want to buy something from someone with that attitude, even if it is still available. If I have problems, I want to be able to get support, and you can't with Bendix now in control.

Al Colby

2000 Intrigue 10979
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Ned on March 07, 2011, 10:03:55 am
Yahoo Message Number: 69078 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69078)
Just another option that a friend brought up. I do not have one of these.
http://www.tiretraker.com/ (http://www.tiretraker.com/) Ned Herrmann
06 Inspire 51677
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Jose on March 07, 2011, 06:29:07 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 69083 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69083)
This thread hit at an opportune time, we are replacing 4 drive tires and have smart tire installed. We are rethinking our valve stem/temperature sensing approach. On our present SmartTire we use the standard short valve stems and an air chuck and pressure gauge with a straight air connection. Use self sealing valve caps on the inner duals. We like that valve stem approach, my valve extenders leaked and I worry about damage to the longer valve stems.
Looks like we will go with the TireSafeGuard, use the sensors with "through valve fill" on the inside duals and regular sensor on all the others (may modify this after giving it some more thought).
Liked the temperature feature on the SmartTire. Will look at using the "Ideal Gas Law" and calculate the tire pressure increase due to a "High Temperature Problem". PV=NkT (Need to give this some thought too!!)
Found out they were no longer making SmartTire and when they were available they were 2X most of the others+added mounting expense. The one we had worked for 10 years, had only one issue with it, may have solved it on the newer ones.

Judy n Joe

98 Intrigue 10578
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Lee Zaborowski on March 07, 2011, 07:01:15 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 69084 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69084)
No . . .no.

It's PV=nRT.

Since V, n, R are constant all you need is P/T = P'/T'

It is roughly 1.8 PSI per each 10 degrees Fahrenheit.

Lee
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Lee Zaborowski

07 Intrigue 12153, Cat C-13

Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Lee Zaborowski on March 07, 2011, 07:03:08 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 69085 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69085)
I forgot, T has to be in Kelvin. Pressure can be any unit. Really its only a simple proportion, but Kelvin is a must.

Lee
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Dallas Evans on March 07, 2011, 09:54:19 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 69092 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69092)
Al,

I am chiming in.

I have the pressure pro system and much like the TST system, Actually I think I should have got the TST system since the monitor looks like it has more information on it and better layout. The sensor caps can unscrew pretty easy on either one.
I would like to think that the only person that would steal them would be some 'poor' person driving another class A that could use them more than me. (Glass half full attitude) But I could be wrong and it could be some deranged entrepreneur who has an eBay account.
Just looked at the Tire safeguard system you refer to. Looks like the Smart tire system (which I am also still running in my rims since they still work after 7 years and 28,000 miles. I like what I saw on the web site.
I will not be convinced on any of these systems will last a lifetime until you give me the green light that their service department will pass the Al Colby 'seal of approval' otherwise known as the "you're going to hell if you don't service your product 6 years down the road". :)

Dallas 2004 intigue ovation 42 tag c12 11688
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: J Barrie Boas on March 07, 2011, 11:37:03 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 69093 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69093)

Dallas: I think the TST system has a small wrench that locks the screw on monitors in place. Barrie Boas 94 Concept5111
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Dallas Evans on March 08, 2011, 12:40:04 am
Yahoo Message Number: 69095 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69095)
Barrie,

The Pressure pro also has a nut that tightens up to the back of the sensor but I can still unscrew the sensor without loosening the lock nut. It would be pretty easy to take a pair of pliers wrapped in a cloth to undo the sensor without damaging it if your hand could not undue it. I think the lock nut is to keep the sensor from working loose and causing the sensor to release air from the valve stem.
It takes me less than 3 minutes to pull all the sensors from 8 tires and take the backing nut off without lossening the backing nut. That is why I remove them when I am parking the rig for some time.

Dallas 2004 intrigue
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: CharlieMax on March 08, 2011, 08:04:27 am
Yahoo Message Number: 69098 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69098)
That is correct.

I have the TST monitors and they have a wrench/key that is needed to install or remove the sensors.

Not high security, but may slow down a casual thief.

Charlie

Inspire 53093
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: CharlieMax on March 08, 2011, 08:10:33 am
Yahoo Message Number: 69099 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69099)
Correction:

Charlie

Inspire 52093
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Al on March 08, 2011, 08:18:20 am
Yahoo Message Number: 69101 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69101)
Dallas...that's a good post and the AL Colby "seal of approval" aka ACSOA fits perfect. Now AL C. this is the highest honor CCO can attach to one of its long standing members.

AL

00 affinity #5851
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Dan Fahrion on March 08, 2011, 09:54:58 am
Yahoo Message Number: 69107 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69107)
Dallas

I bought my system from Pressure Pro direct (Costco now has the basic kit on line for a little less money-surprise). Pressure Pro did not advise me to buy the locking system stating that theft has not been an issue. I have had mine on for 3 years without any issues. I do take them off my toad when not traveling and off my coach when I am going to be in the same place for a week or two. This also saves on the battery life.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Allan Colby on March 08, 2011, 04:15:04 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 69115 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69115)
I think I just got my 15 minutes of fame.

Al Colby

2000 Intrigue 10979
Title: Re: ACSOA
Post by: Dallas Evans on March 08, 2011, 08:03:17 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 69121 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69121)
Ok Al, I will cut you slack on 15 minutes. It might take me 15 minutes to fully comprehend the magnitude of something that took less than 1 minute to type. :) LMAO

Dallas 11688
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Mcedwar on March 09, 2011, 02:15:12 am
Yahoo Message Number: 69129 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69129)
Any opinions on the TireMinder system. It is being sold at Camping World. It has a really ugly suction cup mount for the display, but it seems to be very portable, so you can reconfigure it to use in the toad when you park your rig.
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Mcedwar on March 09, 2011, 02:16:20 am
Yahoo Message Number: 69130 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69130)
Oops

Mike Edwards 03' Lexa
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: Tom on March 09, 2011, 12:04:06 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 69141 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69141)
I have the Smart Tire system that I read on my Silverleaf monitor and I would like to add pressure monitoring for the toad. I am told by Silverleaf the only way to do this would be to install Smart Tire monitors inside the tires on my Jeep.
Does anyone know if the valve cap systems mentioned in previous posts can be read by the Silverleaf?

Tom Oelsner

2006 Intrigue 12060
Title: Re: Tire pressure/temperature monitoring
Post by: George Sanders on March 09, 2011, 05:22:12 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 69159 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69159)
Tom,

My Silverleaf CL240 reads and displays the pressure pro I had installed as my SmarTire batteries started to fail. I had the Pressure Pro installed at the Myrtle Beach rally last autumn. I like it as I now monitor the car in addition to the coach.

George in Birmingham
'04 Allure 31038