Lee Z. has made a good point about replying to the group which goes to about 3000 or more. Since most all subjects, especially technical ones, have been covered many times, why not respond to the poster directly by using the envelope icon to provide a personal response. The envelope icon is after the poster's name on the user group web site (yahoogroups.com)or in this - http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Country-Coach-Owners/post. (http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Country-Coach-Owners/post.) Thanks for your consideration,
Fred Kovol
2000 Allure 30593
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Tom on June 22, 2011, 10:22:54 pm
I've been trying to use that envelope and the mail doesn't go through. Roger just e-mailed letting me know he didn't get my mail. Try it and see if it works, there may be a problem on my end.
Tom
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Ken Bea on June 24, 2011, 06:49:45 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72203 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72203)Fred Great Point to share. Somtimes I tell Fellow owners to e-mail me off line! Too much Chatter and I cut out copys as much as possable. Short and too the point! Ken 99 Allure 30356.
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Dan Fahrion on June 25, 2011, 08:45:37 am
I learn a lot from the back and forth. Not everyone has been on this site for the last 10 years which is pretty obvious from some of the postings; ie PTO failure. If I am not interested I know where the delete button is located.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Mary and Mike Frederick on June 25, 2011, 08:57:34 am
Yahoo Message Number: 72212 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72212)Thanks, Dan. I agree. There are so many people who have so much more knowledge than I do, and I am very grateful to learn from them even if I've read some of it before.
Mike
06 Inspire 51784
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Jose on June 25, 2011, 10:57:30 am
Yahoo Message Number: 72217 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72217)I vote for both ways. I've learned things from Posts that have been posted before, new perspective, new inputs from new folks. I usually don't post more then 1 or 2 responses and cover more details with the email.
Judy n Joe
98 Intrigue 10578
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Johns RV on June 25, 2011, 11:35:52 am
Yahoo Message Number: 72220 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72220)I think this is a bad idea, it defeats the purpose of a group. I want to see as many replies as possible. Some replies are more applicable to my particular situation than others. The search engine for the group is not that great. What might work is if a few volunteers made a book of current solutions to various problems and if so then promote looking there first. PS I get this in digest form and scan the problems. I sometimes only look at a few of them.
John Shankland
Hi Coach Owners,
Lee Z. has made a good point about replying to the group which goes to about 3000 or more. Since most all subjects, especially technical ones, have been covered many times, why not respond to the poster directly by using the envelope icon to provide a personal response.
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Lee Zaborowski on June 25, 2011, 12:05:34 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72222 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72222)To those who made the last three posts, it appears you have missed some detail on the original situation. First, let me say that I agree with you three 100% that all the replies that contain content can be most valuable. No debate there. However, the original post that started this thread was a different situation. Here was the situation. A member (Member A) sent a personal email to another member (Member B). Member A then posted an email to the whole 3,000 of us saying in essence, and I paraphrase, "Hey Member B, I sent you an email." There was no content and it was of no value to we 3,000. This is the situation that Fred and I were referring to.
You can look it up. Lee --
Lee Zaborowski
07 Intrigue 12153, Cat C-13
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Bob Wexler on June 25, 2011, 03:23:48 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72226 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72226)I often learn about topics that I did not know existed, then next week when I discover the need, I remember the post with the answers. Or, gee, that's a great idea I think I will try it.
Bob Wexler SOB
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Larry F on June 25, 2011, 03:50:22 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72227 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72227)DITTO! The open exchange of information here (vs private emails) is one benefit that makes this forum so invaluable. Yes some personal exchanges might be annoying to some, but I have no problem using the delete key. I would not want to degrade the usefulness of this board just because of a shortsighted bureaucratic ruling that is insensitive to what this board is all about.
Larry, 03 Allure 30856
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Lee Zaborowski on June 25, 2011, 03:59:28 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72228 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72228)Larry, please share with us this "shortsighted bureaucratic ruling that is insensitive to what this board is all about."
Lee --
Lee Zaborowski
07 Intrigue 12153, Cat C-13
Author of 'RVers BEST PUBLIC CAMPGROUNDS' Find it at https://www.createspace.com/3459109 (https://www.createspace.com/3459109)
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Travman100_3 on June 25, 2011, 04:30:08 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72229 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72229)To add to what you have said, a fresh approach to previously posted solutions is probably helpful, as well. I also like to see problems and solutions discussed on the board. Detailed private emails are valuable to the individual involved with the issue but then others aren't benefiting from the email exchanges.
Ray
2000 Intrigue 11040
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Larry F on June 25, 2011, 04:31:19 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72230 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72230)"Lee Z. has made a good point about replying to the group which goes to about 3000 or more.
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Since most all subjects, especially technical ones, have been covered many
times, why not respond to the poster directly by using the envelope icon to provide a personal response."
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Buck on June 25, 2011, 07:33:32 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72233 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72233)Methinks, Dan, that your "viewpoint" is shared by most "members" of the forum...
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Maxmlkman@aol Com on June 25, 2011, 08:25:45 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72234 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72234)This is the kind of crap that should be eliminated!!! Much worse than the objected message. Max
98 Affinity #5487
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: R D Vanderslice on June 25, 2011, 10:56:41 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72239 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72239)Buck, I think you are right, also. We tend to re-spin a lot of topics, but I always learn something. It's easy to delete whatever you are not interested in or have heard before. For me (I'm still trying to set the clock on my VCR) digging back through the archives is a pain. Also, we sometimes get different slants and opinions from new members with different experiences.
R. D. Vanderslice SOB
Previously owned 06 Allure 470
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Johns RV on June 26, 2011, 11:40:31 am
Yahoo Message Number: 72252 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72252)I have 4 vents on the roof. 1 of course for the black tank, 1 for the gray tank, and 2 for??
the grey tank is vented on both sides of the coach and the back near the washer. (3) and one for the black
John
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Lacamastraveler on June 26, 2011, 12:27:16 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72254 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72254)While on this subject, please delete the replies to the replies to the replies when responding to a message. Make for much easier reading; especially on smartphones as many of us use in addition to our computers.
Thanks, Jim 10613
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Ddddddd on June 26, 2011, 01:38:38 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72257 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72257)I have found what ever you post there is some one out there who does not like what you say or how you said it! So, I read and answer any post I think i can help. But I post to them not here. Dan 330498 Allure
Title: Re: Posting Message Replys - A consideration for all
Post by: Smitty on June 26, 2011, 05:44:11 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 72261 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/72261)Hi All - I still consider myself a newbie on this site, but wanted share my thoughts.
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This site has helped my wife and I learn about our new/old Allure. It is the first board I check into at night (getting closer to retirement, so my thoughts are on getting the RV ready for On-D-Road:)!) > The files, links, database, pictures, and search (though the search is not real easy - not a complaint, as it is a FREE service, and many people volunteer to make this board what it is), have saved me from problems/expense/confusion multiple times. > I've detected very little of the flames, ego's, jerks, etc. - that can sometimes take over other boards. Sure, people have bad days. Long term members sometime are a bit more then candid with each other. But the majority of the members are here to help any and all. > Their are a small core of people I've sent thank you PM's to - as they go out of their way to help. Some online, some have gone to PM's, especially on subjects that have been covered before. > I've had a few of my questions answered by PM, with a link to the messages stream of earlier 'solving' of my problems. (I missed them during search.) I feel that is great, I also feel a response to the full board with that link, helps others that might be interested, and also missed it in a search. > Social part of the board is tough. I email some board members from time to time. Some I've probably ticked off by doing so (sorry Jack N.). I feel private emails are the best way to have social interaction. > I see this caution of message replys to be OK. Remembering it is going out to many, I try to think about what I post, before doing so. Is it better as a PM or email, or a post? Sure, fat finger sometimes, and everyone has to see my post.
And yes, the delete button is powerful.
I'll stop my ramblings. I want to again thank the many board members that go out of their way to help whenever they can. I want to thank ALL MEMBERS, as it is all of us that make a board. I especially want to thank the Admins. It's a balance between closing or deleting a post, and letting good conversation flow. Conversation is flowing now, and on many boards, this would have been closed and or deleted by now.
Making the board better, by from time to time reminders of: -Don't reply to a long string without cutting the redundant info (Learned this one by mistake, on a string I had started on my PTO confusion (wait, is that redundant - PTO and confusion? :)!). I usually now try to post just to the OP's post, or if embedded in a string, delete as much as I can. -Use the search.
-When posting a problem for help, report back final problem cause and fix. -Keep from being too thin skin. Some of you write very well. Some like me, have trouble forming the words (possibly being too long winded from time to time). Posted many times on many sites, the words do not show the smile or a frown - just reading words, can be tough sometimes. My sincere very best to all. Having fun, including learning form this board.