Yahoo Message Number: 6124 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/6124)
Doug, thanks for responding. We are finally back after a month in Chula Vista, CA. The Hurricane System worked about 60-70% of the time. It would always go to fault 0 when it tried to fire. We had hot water most of the time but there was no way you could take showers back to back. It seemed like everytime you would turn on hot water to wash your hands, the system would try to fire then go to fault 0. It seems kind of strange there isn't some kind of holding tank for hot water on demand and then when the temperature dropped below a certain point the system would fire. I did get a new circuit board from the company but it kept showing a blown fuse fault when all the fuses were fine. The coach is now at Desert West Coach in Phoenix. This was the recomendation from Jim Cooley at CC. Hopefully they can troubleshoot all the problems. I was told by Hurricane that a new system is being developed with a holding tank. They used this to and from the FMCA rally in Buffalo with excellent results. They said it would be at least a year before the system is in prodution and there will be a retro fit for those of us that want it. My system was also using about 12 ounces of coolant every 5-7 days. No leaks were noticed and nothing on the ground. The bay where the Hurricane was reaked with anti-freeze odor. I personally wish they would replace the entire system. It hasn't worked from day one.
When we got ready to break camp at Chula Vista I tried to bring the slide units in. No electric power. When I hit the button, the Hurricane would go to fault 0. Anyway, I had little or no coach battery power. I started the engine and the generato and one of those provided enough juice to get the slides in. The HWH aair leveling system didn't work properly either. Never did we hear it leveling itslf. Again, I think that is electrical. I thought the house batteries would continually charge when hooked to 50 amp shore power.
Anyway, the coach is in Desert West with 7-8 things to work on.
Earlier in the summer, Beaudry Tucson had it for three weeks with a list of over 30 things. I am quite surprised to have these problems with a country coach but I guess that is the norm with all manufacturers. When I was at Beaudry a Signature that just came from a factory white glove delivery arrived with a list of over 300 items wrong.
Thanks for the name of the man with Girard. I am seriously thinking of going with 3 awnings. I have been referred to their factory in CA and I am dealing with a Brian Chavez. Man are they expensive. They are cutting the cost a bit because this will be the first triple slide they have done the 3 awnings. I will keep you posted. Again, if any of you have any thoughts pass them along. I have learned a wealth of info since finding this site. Thanks Rich
Yahoo Message Number: 6128 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/6128)
Rich,
Please identify your Coach, year, model and production number.
Maybe someone can help with your electrical problem.
Tom
02 Allure 30780
Yahoo Message Number: 6132 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/6132)
Rich.
We rarely put our slides in without running the engine. Slides take a lot of power and I believe the manual says retrach the slides with the engine running. That's the last thing we do when we start the engine.
Bill G. 2001 Magna #5998
Yahoo Message Number: 6168 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/6168)
Hi, Rich,
Mark here. I met you when we were down at Chula Vista. I am sorry to hear that you are still having problems with your coach. I hope that you get your coach up to your satisfaction.
We are up here in Junction City getting some warrany items done and then over to the fairgrounds for the "Re-union" rally.
Looking forward to seeing you again.
Mark
CC Intrigue First Ave. #11625
Yahoo Message Number: 6145 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/6145)
We have no problems with our Hurricane system. It seems like coaches with the new Hurricane system with on demand hot water are the ones experiencing all the problems. We have a Hurricane system that is one year old and does NOT have on demand hot water. We have used it extensively while winter camping and have over 600 hours running time on it and have had NO problems with it. Users of this forum might think that every Hurricane system is a problem. Not so. Our system is problem free.
Yahoo Message Number: 6146 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/6146)
Yahoo Message Number: 6160 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/6160)
I got close to 2000 hours onmine and it is still going great, I will have it overhauled this fall before winter, 2002 Intrigue 11451 Gary Bettig
Yahoo Message Number: 15146 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15146)
I have a code 2 on my Hurricane panel. The book says it is a blown fuse in the control panel. Any anybody give me a clue where that is? I know the panel is in the basement where the system is located, but I don't know about the fuses. And it is cold and raining!
Ree
Current location---Port Lavaca, TX getting ready to leave for Houston
2003 Allure 30852
Home is www.eldoradoranch.com near www.sanfelipe.com.mx
Yahoo Message Number: 15148 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15148)
Ree, the control panel is on the front wall of the furnace compartment and has one little screw at the top which holds the cover on. Turn off the operating switch which is the one on the side and at the top of the panel, then open the cover. You will see a row of fuses on the left side if my memory serves me correctly, and it must be one of these blown.
Good luck,
Walt Rothermel
03
Allure30811
Yahoo Message Number: 15149 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15149)
Thanks, Walt,
Now if it will quit raining so I can get out there. I unplugged the electric cord last night so I could pull out early this morning, but don't feel like hooking up the car in the rain. Having to run the generator for heat pumps to work! Not a good day, so far. Plus, it will mean driving to Houston in the rain, and I normally don't drive in the rain.
I hate to have to be on a schedule!
Ree
Current location---Port Lavaca, TX in the rain
2003 Allure 30852
Home is www.eldoradoranch.com near www.sanfelipe.com.mx
Yahoo Message Number: 15150 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15150)
I sympathize with your plight. Won't your patio awning give you some protection from the rain while you check your fuses? I also feel for you going to Houston in the rain. Seems like every time I go through there it's raining. If you are stopping in Houston I recommend the South Main RV park. Nice people and pretty good sites.
Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811
Yahoo Message Number: 15151 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15151)
Ree, one more thing. I don't know if you are aware that your Hurricane electric hot water system is always on ( regardless whether or not the hot water switch above the entrance door is on ) unless you turn off both Hurricane breakers in the bedroom breaker box. They are clearly labeled. If you are running both heat pumps and the battery charger kicks in you may shut down the genset when you replace the blown fuse. This has happened to me.
Good luck.
Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811
Yahoo Message Number: 15155 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15155)
Walt,
Did they change the system for 04, mine is off and cold unless the electric or diesel switch above the door is on? Tom
04 Allure 30979
{snip} don't know if you are aware that your Hurricane electric hot water system is always on ( regardless whether or not the hot water switch above the entranc
Yahoo Message Number: 15159 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15159)
Tom, they probably did change it. I know Doug Rutherford and Jim Cooley were not aware of i until they found it on my coach, and they said they would come up with a fix. Evidently they fixed it on future coaches but didn't follow through on the earlier ones. They only found it on mine when I complained the genset wouldn't carry two air conditioners.
Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811
Yahoo Message Number: 15160 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15160)
Ree, it occurred to me, after hearing from Tom that he doesn't have the always on problem with electric hot water, that they may have corrected the problem. Your coach number is so close to mine, though, that I doubt it.
I hope I didn't come across like a smart-ass telling you to put out your awning. It wasn't too swift and I apologize.
Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811
Yahoo Message Number: 15161 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15161)
Walt, I just had to laugh when you said put the awning out. I don't have an automatic one and it is such a royal pain that I rarely use it. Wish I had a window awning, though.
I have not read all the posts yet about the Hurricane system. Strangely, after I got settled and hooked up to shore power, the error code was gone.
Ree
Current location---Houston
2003 Allure 30852
Home is www.eldoradoranch.com near www.sanfelipe.com.mx
Yahoo Message Number: 15178 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15178)
This is interesting, Walt. I have complained more than once about the fact that the generator won't handle both AC's.
Ree
Current location---Houston
2003 Allure 30852
Home is www.eldoradoranch.com near www.sanfelipe.com.mx
Yahoo Message Number: 15185 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15185)
Ree, once I found out the Hurricane hot water system was on all the time and turned off the breakers I haven't had any problems with the genset carrying both a/c's and just about anything else that doesn't involve high amp heating units. An 8.0 KW generator should handle most anything we have in these coaches. If you are still having the problem after shutting off the Hurricane breakers (2) you have another drain somewhere. Good luck.
Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811
Yahoo Message Number: 15197 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15197)
Walt/Ree
Why hot water turns off from the panel above the entry door. My coach # (30858) is close to Ree's so it should work in Ree's coach too!
Also, the 2 code could be an aquastat problem instead of a fuse problem. I haad a 2 Code and all the fuses were ok. I called ITR and they had me check the aquastat and adjust the gap. I just followed their instructions and it worked.
They said that the Hurricane does not have a code for aquastats, so it shows a 2 Code. Go figure!
I will be in Moultrie, hope to see you there.
Tom and Sherry Royer
2003 Allure #30858
Yahoo Message Number: 84102 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84102)
My coach has the hurricane system that is not electric. My hot water heater is LP/electric. Does the hurricane circulate water though hot water heater and engine?
Gary Strickland 2003 Intrigue # 11542
Yahoo Message Number: 84103 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84103)
Yes, it does.
Ray
2000 Intrigue 11040
Yahoo Message Number: 84104 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84104)
Ray, are you sure? I think there is a check valve in the engine compartment that keeps coolant from the Hurricane from circulating in the motor and water heater. Trying to keep that huge chunk of metal warm would really tax the Hurricane.
One way to tell is to run the Hurricane and give it time to get things warmed up. Then turn on the key and see what the dash temp gauge or the Silverleaf says.
To the OP, coolant does not flow through the water heater. The tank is surrounded with pipe on the exterior and the engine heated coolant flows around the tank, not through it.
Don
'02 Intrigue #11427
Yahoo Message Number: 84106 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84106)
My Hurricane operates HW and Furnace, but does not circulate through the engine. Engine coolant does circulate through a separate heat exchanger inside the Hurricane unit for OTR HW and furnace but never do the two coolants mix with each other.
Larry, 03 Allure 30856
Yahoo Message Number: 84124 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84124)
On my 2000 Magna, the hurricane does heat the engine. At least to the point where the coolant temperature sensor is located. I have a Silverleaf system and checked the engine temperature after running the hurricane for several hours. The engine temperature was about 105F.
If heating the engine is not supposed to happen then I hope someone can tell me what I can do to prevent it.
Pete
2K 40' Magna #5892
Yahoo Message Number: 84125 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84125)
Hi Gary, At one time we had a coolant leak in our Hurricane furnace and the coolant was refilled at the engine cooling system reservoir. Our water heater is behind the pantry cabinets, if you remove the drawers under the pantry you can see if the green coolant hoses are looped into the water heater to keep it from freezing while not turned on. Hope this helps....Skip 2002 Intrigue #11329
Yahoo Message Number: 84126 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84126)
Pete,
All of the 2000 Magnas that I have seen close up (3 to be exact) did not use a Hurricane system but rather the plain Webasto heater. Unlike the Hurricane or HydroHot/Aquahot, the Webasto unit has no reservoir or expansion tank. Instead it uses the engine coolant to heat and circulate around the interior loop of the coach. In doing so it uses the engine radiator and expansion tank as it has none of its own.
The heated coolant is not circulated to the engine cooling system but as the coolant is heated by the Webasto some heated coolant is forced into the engine coolant system by expansion and gravity convection.
There is no way to prevent this minor engine heating with the Wabasto units that I have seen in the 2000 Magna
Don Seager
2004 Allure
pfhays wrote:
On my 2000 Magna, the hurricane does heat the engine. At least to the point where the coolant temperature sensor is located. I have a Silverleaf system and checked the engine temperature after running the hurricane for several hours. The engine temperature was about 105F.
If heating the engine is not supposed to happen then I hope someone can tell me what I can do to prevent it.
Pete
2K 40' Magna #5892
Yahoo Message Number: 84127 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84127)
OK Don, now I am confused. The furnace in my Magna is a Hurricane C45DRF. I know it doesn't have it's own expansion tank but uses the engine system as you say. So, are you saying I don't have a Hurricane system because the house heating fluid is connected with the engine system or is there something else that defines the difference between my Hurricane furnace and a 'Hurricane System'? pete
2K 40' Magna #5892
Yahoo Message Number: 84129 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84129)
Don
The 2000 Magna had an option of one or the other. My 2000 Magna (original owner) has a real Hurricane C45DRF. I first got service at Rixen, then when Rixen was no longer a rep. for Hurricane, I when to ITR. I do have a friend that has a 2000 Magna with the Webasto burner. The 2000 Magna had an option of one or the other. Ihope this clears up any confuson.
Bo & Kathy Lee
2000 Magna #5896 40 FT
2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
Rubicon
Yahoo Message Number: 84130 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84130)
That is why I qualified my statement by mentioning the limited number of 2000 Magnas that I had looked at. With CC it is always dangerous to make blanket statements about any coach especially the older models. I should have stuck with the point that any hydronic system that has no expansion tank LIKELY uses the engine cooling system.
Thanks for further qualifying my point and hopefully clearing up Pete's confusion.
Don Seager
2004 Allure 31046
bo lee wrote:
Don
The 2000 Magna had an option of one or the other. My 2000 Magna (original owner) has a real Hurricane C45DRF. I first got service at Rixen, then when Rixen was no longer a rep. for Hurricane, I when to ITR. I do have a friend that has a 2000 Magna with the Webasto burner. The 2000 Magna had an option of one or the other. Ihope this clears up any confuson.
Bo & Kathy Lee
2000 Magna #5896 40 FT
2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
Rubicon
Yahoo Message Number: 84131 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84131)
My '03 Magna Resort has the same Hurricane C45DRF system. It utilizes the same coolant that cools the coach engine, and will provide block heating for the engine, but does not have a heat exchanger in the hot water heater tank, and does not heat the water there. The water there is heated by engine heat (via a heat exchanger) when the coach engine is running -- otherwise it is strictly 110V electric or propane.
D. Jarrett
2003 Magna Resort #6240
Yahoo Message Number: 84245 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84245)
Anyone know what fuel filter goes in the Hurricane heater. Can you get one at an auto parts store or do you have to get it from ITR?
Jon Baum
Magna 2K 5923
Yahoo Message Number: 84248 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/84248)
I get mine at Napa part # 740-1158. I think many different types will work. I have the Hurricane CO45D model.
Larry, 03 Allure, 30856