Yahoo Message Number: 88130 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88130)
I have an interesting question I am hoping perhaps someone in the group has some experience with. Our motorhome is currently registered in the state of Oregon as we own a permanent home of 20 years here and have only recently moved into motorhome travel. We love the idea of semi-full-timing but do not wish to give up maintaining a residence somewhere and have been considering Washington state for various reasons, on key reason being in order to escape OR state income tax.
HOWEVER... Washington has this rather unbelievable rule that if you own a recreational vehicle and register it in the state as a new resident, sales tax is ALWAYS due, regardless of how long you have owned it and what state it was previously registered in. I spoke with two different DMV offices to verify this. Unbelievable. So book value on the coach is around $200K and sales tax would be around $17K just to switch registration from OR to WA. Unless I can figure out some way around this, this is a deal breaker. I was wondering if anyone has any ideas about how to avoid this, instead perhaps registering the coach in some other state. We would be shifting all our documentation over to WA... driver's license, voting, LLC registration, mailing address, etc. So maybe there is no way to get around this... in which case we may just remain in Oregon. But with all the 'gaming the system' that Motorhomers do with residency in South Dakota, Florida and elsewhere I was wondering if anyone had any thought on this. Hope so
Joseph Burkle
2008 Country Coach Inspire 360 Founders Edition 43' quad slide tag axle 425 HP C9 pusher http://www. Wind-seeker.com/ (http://www. Wind-seeker.com/)
Yahoo Message Number: 88131 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88131)
All my long time RV owner friends that have full timed and live now in NM, AZ, CA, OR, CO, all are official residents of South Dakota. Only a few of us that our Texans remain as Texans. We usually are home more than we travel and as our homes are paid for, our taxes frozen, and Tags for the Motorhomes are very reasonable, we see no reason to change. My SD friends all travel more than 6 months a year so as not to become residents of their seasonal states. As you don't need to own property to be an official resident of SD, with great mail forwarding, and only needing to be in the state every five years for a new drivers license, they feel the fabulous savings are worth the small effort. I don't know what they do about voting.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731
Yahoo Message Number: 88134 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88134)
I went through this and paid the sales tax. Bought my coach in AZ and it took about a week for someone in WA where I live to turn me in, even before I got home. WA is relentless, and I would really consider it carefully before moving here.
aaamarine
'05 CC Allure 430
Yahoo Message Number: 88135 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88135)
I agree with aaamarine.
I live in Wa. and bought my coach in Oregon, used, for $173K, considered LLC in Montana but I know Wa. is watching closely so I paid the $16K in tax & tabs. Also, if you live anywhere near Seattle/King Co. there is also a very high RTA Tax (Light Rail).
John
05 CC Inspire
10 Ford Escape
Yahoo Message Number: 88137 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88137)
The sales tax issue is slightly more complicated. If I understood the original post correctly, he is NOT CURRENTLY a resident of WA. In some of the other examples, the purchaser was already a WA resident. That is really quite different. If you live in state A and buy a car, boat or RV in state B, you will have to settle with your own sales tax agency when "repatriating" the vehicle. Some states will give you credit for sales tax paid in state B and some states will allow you to get a temporary plate, thereby avoiding paying any sales tax in the state where the purchase occurred.
No state will allow you to reside in their jurisdiction and maintain a boat, car or RV registered in another state...simply stated...they want the money. You may last a couple of months...or perhaps only a day if someone turns you in.
But this situation is not the situation in the original message. Most states will allow you to bring in a vehicle tagged in another state if you were not a resident of their state when you made the purchase. Most require at least 6 months between the purchase and importing the vehicle. Even so, some will also credit you with the sales tax paid in the state of your original residence. You need to ask these specific questions when determining what you will owe.
Florida doesn't charge sale tax if you weren't a resident when you bought the RV and you purchased it at least 6 months before becoming a Florida resident. In my case I bought the RV in NY and tagged it in Florida. temporary transport tag from NY, no tax in NY and full sales tax in Florida.
Make sure you ask the right question.
Complicated...always when dealing with the government.
Scott
Yahoo Message Number: 88139 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88139)
Guess you should get Florida residence. No tax is due if you have owned it for more than 6 months prior to registering it in Florida. Seems that WA State has what amounts to a personal property tax for residents of other states. That does seem consistent with the perceived notion that they don't want immigrants, legal or not.
Scott
Yahoo Message Number: 88140 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88140)
I use to live in CA. We sold our house and are using family address in OR. OR is our domicile state for legal purposes. We are full timing and the OR license fees to registered first time was $418.00 for the first two years. Renewals are $358.00 every two years. It would have been over $20,000.00 to register in CA with 9.5% sales tax and very high renewal fees on a yearly basics. I am more than willing to pay the state income tax as we had that in CA. Not owning property in OR helps.
I have may family members who live in WA. and everyone of them complain about the DMV fees that continue to go up.
Jock Vargo
2005 Inspire
51428
Yahoo Message Number: 88142 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88142)
Thanks to everyone for chiming in on this so quickly. I guess I need to clarify. We are presently legitimate Oregon residents of 20+ years. I bought my present coach in AZ last year, brought it home to Oregon and registered it as an OR resident. No problems there... no deception, no tricks and since OR charges so sales tax we only paid state registration fees.
Now we are considering a move to Washington. Our reasons are many but one key issue is to stop paying OR state income tax which amounts to a pile of money each year. I have not minded paying it all these years when we lived here, I owned a business here and our kids went to school here. It is all different now... mostly retired, kids grown etc.
My main goal is to live near a good sailing lake and Portland area has no good options there. I really despise sailing in the Columbia... have done it two summers and it is hardly worth the effort. So we started traveling in our motorhome looking for good sailing venues. But still pay all this tax in a state where are not spending much time now.
One lake we have found that we particularly like is Lake Coeur d'Alene in Idaho and we're headed there next week. We're considering a move to Liberty Lake WA near Lake CdA. But I was floored to learn WA would charge me sales tax on my coach even though we purchased it legitimately as an Oregon resident... and will have owned it MORE than a year before we might even consider buying a house in WA.
This is a ridiculous law. I can understand them trying to snag people who live in WA and buy an RV in OR to try to avoid paying sales tax. But that is NOT our situation at all. I am simply considering a move to Washington for various personal reasons and will need to retitle my Oregon-tagged vehicles once we will no longer be living here.
Neither Florida nor Texas charge an owner any sales tax if they have owned the RV more than 6 months and were living elsewhere when they bought it. Washington is really overstepping any logical bounds here. So naturally I was considering the options for how to avoid paying $20 grand in sales tax which they have no business collecting.
I found an article about people licensing RV's in Montana to a registered LLC. That may be an option. Or... I actually already have an LLC in Texas which owns a piece of commercial real estate there. Perhaps I could reregister the MH in the name of that LLC. No matter where I wind up registering it, I would be careful NEVER to bring the Motorhome back into the state of Washington. So I would not have to worry about WA state police or neighbors turning me in. I would just need to find the best option for registering the vehicle legally so that when travelling around the US (outside the state of WA) that I would not be ticketed for illegal registration, oin the event I got stopped, or had an accident or something.
I would certainly welcome anyone else's input with these specific circumstances in mind.
Joseph Burkle
2008 Country Coach Inspire 360 Founders Edition 43' quad slide tag axle 425 HP C9 pusher http://www. Wind-seeker.com/ (http://www. Wind-seeker.com/)
Yahoo Message Number: 88144 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88144)
If you are going to Lake Coeur d'Alene go north about 45 minutes to Sandpoint, lake pend Oreille is a lot larger body of water less people great sailing. Then head over the Idaho border into Montana get yourself an LLC. And your done. The panhandle of Idaho has a lot of great small lakes for sailing. Remember The state of Washington has a excise tax when you sale property. Always seems to be some kind of trade off. Good luck.
Jim
2006 allure 430 #31317
Yahoo Message Number: 88145 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88145)
After living, working and paying taxes in Oregon for some 50 years, we went through the same research that you did. We were nearly ready to domicile in South Dakota, but were reluctant to pay the 3% use tax on their valuation of the coach and toad. We finally decided on Florida, with the assistance of American Home Base in Pensacola. It cost under $1k to register the coach and toad, and to obtain Florida drivers licenses, including my CDL. We are happy with American Home Base. As seniors with Florida ID, state park fees are half price.
David White
06 Intrigue #11993
Yahoo Message Number: 88148 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88148)
Since you are an Oregon resident, you should qualify as a "continuous traveler". You have to show proof that indeed you are a resident having worked there, retired, etc. Then you can have a mailing address and be licensed as a continuous traveler and maintain your residency in OR.
Don
'02 Intrigue #11427
Yahoo Message Number: 88152 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88152)
If you are not a full time RVer, ie living in your RV and not having a residence in some state, you will not likely get away with calling your residence SD, FL, TX or wherever. If you are going to maintain a residence in WA, you will have to register your coach there or likely be caught and required to register and possibly pay a fine.
Yahoo Message Number: 88156 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88156)
I am registered as a continuous traveler in Oregon. I still have to pay state income tax.
Bo & Kathy Lee
2000 Magna #5896 40 FT
2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
Rubicon
Yahoo Message Number: 88161 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88161)
I'm not an "expert" but from what I have researched, the key seems to be home ownership with the state. When I sold my home in Washington State, I purchased my motorhome and registered it in Montana. (No sales tax on purchase) I have since been a resident of South Dakota and registered my vehicle, license, voting, and official address as South Dakota. The MH remains in the LLC in Montana. I don't know of a "legal" way to solve your problem while being a home owner in Oregon. If you transfer registration of the MH to South Dakota they want proof the sales tax has been paid previously.
Just thinking out loud, why not transfer residency to South Dakota and transfer everything there. No State income tax and everything else is very reasonable. ((much more so than Washington). I "assume" you could be a legal resident of SD and own property in Oregon.
Roger Harper
2006 Intrigue
#11990
Yahoo Message Number: 88164 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88164)
It is hard to find answers to these questions at a DMV.
Call the Dept of Revenue in Olympia (360) 534-1335 -- very helpful.
It may take awhile to get to the right person.
....also an independant auto license place in Ballard:
Address: 2232 NW Market St, Seattle, WA 98107
Phone:(206) 781-0199 .... These guys want your business and will be helpful unless they happen to be too busy at the moment you call, call back later if they are, or the next day.
Yahoo Message Number: 88166 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88166)
I am a resident of Oregon and pay Oregon taxes. The registration fee for my coach is really quite reasonable compared to California where I lived for many years. I think it is important to understand how various states finance their budgets when considering the various taxes. Washington collects no income tax, but still has to pay its bills, which it does in part with these high taxes to register/reregister a motorhome. Most of the states that collect no income tax (the reason you see so many SD, Texas, Montana plates on motorhomes) have to come up with the financing to run their state some way...and, they all do it in different ways. Washington uses the exorbitant tax they charge when you bring in a motorhome. Texas collects taxes from the oil industry which Washington does not. Each has their own way of raising money and we simply have to choose the one we want to live with.
I've thought about a Montana LLC and an number of other ploys, but really don't want to risk the consequences of violating a particular state's law (in which I actually live). Full timing is a different story. For me, the savings of sales tax in Oregon, where I bought my last two coaches is sufficient. That is one reason I left California...tax avoidance that is lawful. Moving to Washington would save me a ton of income taxes, but would cost me some sales tax...after all, they have to pay the bills somehow. But, that payment of sales tax would certainly be less that cumulative hits of income tax. They are going to get it from you somehow...you just have to choose which tax/fee you pay.
Dave Glen
'06 Magna 6591
Yahoo Message Number: 88171 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88171)
Well I think you are missing my point. We have no intention of full timing to the extent we do not maintain a home somewhere. Presently our permanent home is in the Portland area ... it was a great place to raise a family and run a business, but now that we are traveling a lot, I pay way too much income tax on retirement income NONE of which is earned in the state. Therefore we have been considering the move to Washington. Not as a tax dodge, necessarily, but as a place in the Pacfic NW to live near a good sailing lake in the summers, and place to come home to when we are tired of traveling in the fall/winter/early spring. Our home in Oregon now unfortunately has no good sailing nearby so we find we are wanting to be in the MH all the time and that is impractical when you own a large home somewhere.
The SD address as a PO box works great for full timers as I understand it, but we're not going to get away with that if we maintain a home in Oregon... guaranteed. And in Washington there is no need. Again we would be living in our Washington home perhaps half the year and traveling in the coach in southern locales the rest of the time. So the only serious question with living in Washington is which lake to live near for sailing (really only two good choices: Lake Washington in the Seattle area and Lake CdA in the Spokane Valley area) *and* what to do about the onerous MH transfer-in tax. But as long as the coach was purchased when a resident of another state and is never brought into the state of Washington, it seems to me it is irrelevant where you register it as long as that state is ok with it.
Joseph Burkle
2008 Country Coach Inspire 360 Founders Edition 43' quad slide tag axle 425 HP C9 pusher http://www. Wind-seeker.com/ (http://www. Wind-seeker.com/)
Yahoo Message Number: 88173 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88173)
I believe that you will be OK. The Washington tax is a "use tax" and as long as you do not bring the coach into WA, and it is tagged somewhere else, you should be fine.
Scott
Yahoo Message Number: 88176 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88176)
Thanks for the suggestions seattletrek. Although I was pretty confident I called Ballard Auto/Vessel Licensing in Seattle and spoke with someone there just tpo be sure. When I explained we were considering selling our Oregon home and buying a home in Washington, I asked what was involved in licensing my vehicles... and she concurred that if I bring the coach into Washington to register it, I have to pay sales tax as it has been registered previously in Oregon and as an Oregon resident we don't pay sales tax. However when I asked her if I never brought the coach into the state and instead registered it to an address in a different state, whether there would be any foreseeable problem. And her reply was simply, "No, not at all... we wouldn't know anything about it." I think I can go with that
jb
Yahoo Message Number: 88182 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88182)
Montana is very friendly for RV registration. No sales tax and low registration fees.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Yahoo Message Number: 88185 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88185)
All Montana plates mean in WA is "pull over". That is the #1 signal for cheating, and WA does not recognize LLCs in MT. Another giant signal here is to have plates from different states on your coach and toad.
Yahoo Message Number: 88189 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88189)
yep that is my conclusion as well. I even called the Ballard Auto/Vessel Licensing in Seattle as suggested by another member. When I explained we were considering selling our Oregon home and buying a home in Washington, I asked what was involved in licensing my vehicles... and she concurred that if I bring the coach into Washington to register it, I have to pay the "use" tax as it has been registered previously in Oregon and as an Oregon resident we don't pay sales tax. However when I asked her if I never brought the coach into the state and instead registered it to an address in a different state, whether there would be any foreseeable problem. And her reply was simply, "No, not at all... we wouldn't know anything about it." I think I can go with that.
Joseph Burkle
2008 Country Coach Inspire 360 Founders Edition 43' quad slide tag axle 425 HP C9 pusher http://www. Wind-seeker.com/ (http://www. Wind-seeker.com/)
Yahoo Message Number: 88204 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88204)
So people that live in Montana who drive through Washington will get stopped because they have Montana plates? That sounds like profiling, and as Ron White says, profiling is wrong! :-)
Dan 06 Intrigue 11936
Yahoo Message Number: 88205 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88205)
I am always amazed that a person that can afford a $500,000 motor home can't afford the associated taxes.
George
'04 Inspire 51061 (for sale)
Yahoo Message Number: 88214 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88214)
I am reminded of an old cowboy's saying; A fool and his money are soon parted.
Jim Hill
2008 Tribute 260
Yahoo Message Number: 88233 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88233)
Why not just pay the fees and travel worry and hassle free? Living in one state and having the coach in another state is a hassle (I store mine 200 miles from my home and it is still a hassle even in the same state). Paying penalties is also not a happy prospect if one gets caught. Is it really worth it? In this case, Washington charges a hefty use tax and that helps to finance the state services that all residences partake of...seems only fair as an offset to no income tax.
Dave Glen
'06 Magna 6591
Yahoo Message Number: 88249 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88249)
yep that is what I have heard, which is why we will never bring the coach into the state of WA... no need really... our goal is to RV in the southern states in winters anyhow so when we go home we will most likely fly home from wherever and leave the coach in storage in the south,., whether AZ, CA, TX, Florida.... all of the above in different years. As for different plates, well it will be outside the state of WA in the first place but in any case we don't tow our care very often anyway. Our primary goal in travel is sailing... so one of us tows the boat and the other drives the other vehicle separately... can't tow both behind the coach :-)
jb
Yahoo Message Number: 88251 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88251)
NM has some funny rules, you might be able to tow a pickup behind the coach pulling boat of reasonable size. TWI 2004 intrigue 11731
Yahoo Message Number: 88252 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88252)
Washington's USE tax is just that... it is a tax for *using* the coach or the boat in the state. Since our focus with the coach is touring in the SOUTH in winter, we have no intention of ever bringing it into the state of washington. And I am certainly not inclined to pay a NO-USE tax of $17,000 when all I need is legal tags on the coach for driving in in the southern states, that's all. And Montana will serve that purpose perfectly. We really have no intention of bringing it back to the NW once we get settled in our new home, but even if we did, we could easily head north up through Boise, Idaho to the panhandle and store it in a facility in Idaho. Liberty Lake is only about 4 miles from the state line... can't really get more convenient than that :-) Oh and by the way, neither Florida nor Texas, both of which have ZERO income tax as well as Washington, charge any sales tax or use tax to register a vehicle you have owned for more than six months which was previously registered in any other state, OR included.
jb
Yahoo Message Number: 88253 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88253)
Make Washington residence your second.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Yahoo Message Number: 88257 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88257)
Whats the problem with having a vacation home in another state? We had one in MD and one in WV. WV did not try to claim we were residence. So now our vacation home is in GA and the rest of the time our MH is our residence.
Tom
2005 Inspire 51177
Yahoo Message Number: 88260 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88260)
So, tell me- if you are a resident of, say Arizona, and are driving through Washington state with Montana plates on your motorhome and Arizona plates on your toad, do the taxing and law enforcement folks in Washington have any right to come after you? It seems to me that, in this example, only the state of Arizona has any authority over this hypothetical RVer, insofar as a licensing beef. Right?
Yahoo Message Number: 88265 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88265)
OK! Certainly not my intent to argue an unarguable point. I just believe in paying my fair share to operate/finance the state in which I live. With enough effort, almost anyone can figure out a way to avoid taxes/fees/surcharges, etc---some legal and some illegal. As Will entitled one of his plays, "As You Like It".
Dave Glen
'06 Magna 6591
Yahoo Message Number: 88266 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88266)
I'am a resident of Arizona, my coach is licensed in Montana under a LLC, I previously for 18 years lived in Montana. The law states as long as your motorhome is out of the state for 6 months or half the year you have no problem. I do also have property in Washington state and go there every summer. Never had a problem and yes my toad has Arizona plates.
Jim 2006 allure 430 #31317
Yahoo Message Number: 88275 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88275)
LLC is a federally recognized legal entity so I don't think WA has much to say about the matter. The may try to get at the matter thru some other means. For example, in AZ if the vehicle remains in the state for more than 6 months I believe they can require that it be registered. This still does not change the legal ownership or get at sales taxes but they do have a right to require it to be registered and that gives them the registration fee revenue.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348 (self-taught lawyer)
Yahoo Message Number: 88290 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88290)
Of course it needs to be registered in some state, and you or the LLC will need a legal mailing address in that state. Most states force in state registration once the vehicle remains in that state for more than 6 months. You can travel to any other state without concern, as long as it is not a state that YOU are a legal resident of. Obviously, select a state with no sales tax. I did register in Florida, and paid sales tax. Stupid...but over.
Scott
Yahoo Message Number: 88292 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88292)
Dave,
I agree with you in "paying our fair share" in whatever we do. There are so many freeloaders in our country now, that those of us that can, should do what is right. We did the South Dakota thing for a few years but now register and pay all of our fees in Washington State. It costs more but it feels right!
Ricardo
04 Intrigue #11830
Yahoo Message Number: 88347 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88347)
I pay property tax to fund libraries, schools, sewers, and who knows what else.
I pay sales tax to fund police and fire protection and who knows what else.
I pay gasoline and diesel tax to fund road upkeep and construction and who knows what else.
I pay state income tax to fund only God knows what.
I pay all sorts of hidden fees, and some not so hidden, to various levels of government.
I pay vehicle registration fees for two cars.
The motor home registration fee is, in my understanding, to pay for my use of the state roads. I drive my motorhome on state roads six days a year, when I'm leaving on a trip and when I'm returning from a trip. For the mathematically challenged, that is three trips per year. Some years we only make two trips. For that, Colorado thinks my fair share is more than $5,000 per year registration fee.
Ponder that. I did.
Notice that I didn't say what I did about it. But I will say, I do believe I am paying my fair share, maybe even part of someone else's fair share.
At some point you have to say, "Enough is enough".
Jim Biestek
Yahoo Message Number: 88348 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88348)
Well stated, Jim..............perhaps even understated. I agree more than wholeheartedly!
The time may be approaching when the folks who are paying the freight for, not only themselves, but for countless non-contributory slugs as well, is coming to a head. (Think the current runaway IRS shenanigans and various corruption.)
A wise man once said: "The characteristics of the kingdom emanate from the king".
Dave Trotter
01 Intrigue 11215
Yahoo Message Number: 88350 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88350)
WOW. After reading all the input on the different state RV taxes i now realize we have it pretty good here in Okla. It cost me around 9K when I brought the 06 Affinity (new to me) into the state for title and Registration. I thought it extremely rough on my wallet. But the following year the tags will be around $180.00 for the rest of my ownership. Another really big surprise was to find out that to drive this 45,000# machine down the hwy I was not required to have any type of CDL or air brake certification. Go figure.
OJinOK
06 AFfinity.
Yahoo Message Number: 88353 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88353)
What's the percentage # for those "slugs" Dave Trotter?
Yahoo Message Number: 88365 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88365)
Stop wasting the money I already give then perhaps I would pay more.
Tom
2005 Inspire
Yahoo Message Number: 88248 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/88248)
If I may add, irreligiously, amen! The number of people on this and other CC lists that have asked for information about how to avoid taxes is rather astounding to me. They must own Apple stock and use that as an example for how an American citizen should express his patriotism.
One has to pay his share in order to live in a civilized society. In Greece, for example, 35% of the people (and businesses, I understand) are failing to pay their taxes. The Greek financial dilemma has implications for our very own banking system, which has lent (at sometimes exorbitant rates) money to Greece, which money is now in peril because of the banks' very own greed.
I do not hold out any hope, however, that the situation will change. Greed is most pervasive.
Ken
'04 Allure (31035)