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Title: engine
Post by: KAY Neubauer on May 20, 2014, 11:44:01 am
Yahoo Message Number: 95423 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95423)
Hello Group,

Well, we had an issue with our coach not starting while at the rally in Louisiana. After spending 3 1/2 weeks at the diesel shop in Lafayette, they had it running again, but I could tell that they were not really comfortable that they truly had found the culprit, and winced a little as we drove the coach home. We got home, and even camped for a couple of days in it. Took it home to its' garage, and then when Allan went to crank it yesterday, same thing AGAIN!! The key cranks it, batteries good, but engine will not engage. ANY ideas out there? We are baffled.
We live near Denton, Tx. Kay and Allan Neubauer with our 2010 360 Inspire. It has the 425 Cummins. Thanks
Title: Re: engine
Post by: Thomas W Insall Jr on May 20, 2014, 12:36:40 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95425 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95425)
I had an issue with the accumulator section of the injection pump that was caught early enough to keep me from being grounded, too. Have your oil checked to see if diesel fuel is contaminating your oil. That would mean there is the possibility of fuel starving to the engine. Check your oil and see if feels abnormally thin between your fingers and if the smooth lubricating properties are there or does the oil feel thin and you can feel the texture of your fingers. If you can you have issues. If the oil looks grey you have a blown head gasket and water is getting in the fuel. There was a recall on some ISL about piping between the lift pump and the injection pump which if not caught in time ill cause the Injection pump to fail as I had happen previously with my ISC engine. If your repairs were done at Cummins previously then your local Cummins facility should honor your 90 day repair warranty.
Have you checked your fuel filters, have there been any warning lights. Do you have any sign of fuel leaking on the ground under the filters. There have been issues with the fuel line fittings between the filters and the lift pump and the injection pump allowing air in the system causing a vacuum lock.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731
Title: Re: engine
Post by: KAY Neubauer on May 20, 2014, 12:47:04 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95426 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95426)
Thanks for the feedback Thomas. I will take this to hubby and have him check all these things.
The air vaccuum is interesting. We had the fuel filters changed, and then they tightened up some fuel lines, and this began following that work. This may be the issue, and when they worked on it in Louisiana, possibly they got a temporary fix on that airlock.. Hum will check out further. Thanks Kay Neubauer n our new Intrigue
Title: Re: engine
Post by: Mikey Drives on May 20, 2014, 12:59:27 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95427 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95427)
If you do have fuel getting into the oil the oil level should be higher than normal.

Mikee
Title: Re: engine
Post by: windsor1262 on May 20, 2014, 01:21:46 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95428 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95428)
Kay,

Does the transmission selector light up?

Marta

07 Allure 31501
Title: Re: engine
Post by: Ed Recknagle on May 20, 2014, 02:06:01 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95429 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95429)
Kay

I can only guess about your problem but I can tell you of my engine issues and the cause.
I had a Dodge that the Cummins started to cut out on the highway, and then it would come back. Then it would or would not start, depending on its mood. The third 'expert' that looked at it found a loose wire connector at the fuel shut-off valve and a squeeze with pliers fixed it.
It sounds to me that your coach runs well when it starts, so I would guess that all the basic systems are working properly. I would look at the electrical connectors that pertain to the fuel system at the engine, under the dash, solenoids etc. I would look for looseness or corrosion. My 2000 Magna is Cat powered, and I have fixed a few of my electrical issues just by pulling connectors apart and reconnecting them.

Intermittent problems are tough to find, I hope this helps.

Regards

Ed Recknagle 2000 Magna 36, 5738
Title: Re: engine
Post by: Peralko@sbcglobal Net on May 20, 2014, 03:17:52 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95432 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95432)
We had a problem last year when the engine quit on the highway. A local shop in Kerrville could not find the problem, and Caterpillar struggled to find it as well. Turned out it was a corroded fuse holder furnishing power to the engine computer. Maybe worth a check! Per

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Title: Re: engine
Post by: KAY Neubauer on May 20, 2014, 03:56:01 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95433 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95433)
I will have to ask hubby that!!!
Title: Re: engine
Post by: KAY Neubauer on May 20, 2014, 03:57:36 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95434 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95434)
The diesel shop in Lafayette spent 3 1/2 weeks looking for something like that, and could not find it.
But, I will ask Allan about the fuel shut off valve. I have not heard him talk about that. Do you know where it is located? THanks Kay
Title: Re: engine
Post by: KAY Neubauer on May 20, 2014, 03:59:05 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95435 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95435)
Allan is going over ALL of the fuses and connectors as we s peak. But fust to the engine computer, hum will look.
Title: Re: engine
Post by: Lonny & Diane Livingston on May 20, 2014, 10:02:33 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95439 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95439)
If you don't get an answer here, we have had great service at Cummins Coach Care in Tulsa OK. Might be worth giving them a call. We have been there 3x and we live in Florida! Great service, reasonable prices.

16525 E. Skelly Dr. (Off of Interstate 44 at Exit 238) Tulsa, OK 74116 Phone: 918-234-3240
Title: Re: engine
Post by: Peralko@sbcglobal Net on May 21, 2014, 04:17:18 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95453 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95453)
Our fuse was in the middle of a wiring bundle going to the ECM. Even Caterpillar missed it at first.

Per

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Title: Re: engine
Post by: KAY Neubauer on May 21, 2014, 04:40:54 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 95454 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/95454)
OH jeez. Thanks for that one!! Hard to find!!