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Title: dead engine battery
Post by: Ron Bodeen_1 on May 05, 2016, 03:51:48 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105921 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105921)
Shop allowed coach inside for a week and not plugged in with all interior lights on. As a result both interline gel batteries and acid engine battery at zero. Engine battery will not take nor hold a charge, house batteries will with solar keeping them charged fully. In replacing engine battery, I recall something relating to OEM needs to be reset? anyone with an idea of what that is and how to reset same????? Help
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: Smitty on May 06, 2016, 11:22:34 am
Yahoo Message Number: 105927 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105927)
Hi Ron - Well that does not sound like fun:)!

What coach model year engine do you have, as that might help others answer you specific question.

The only think I recall having to reset when swapping out our chassis battery, was the Hydro Hot Low Voltage. But that was because i had also shut off the master switch from the House Battery too.

Different coaches may have different requirements, so hopefully someone else can chime in for your rig.

Best of luck to you,

Smitty
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: Ronald Jacobs on May 06, 2016, 06:57:20 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105933 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105933)
Smitty,

We have a 2005 CC Inspire #51264 with a Cat C-9 engine.
I'm fairly coach/electrical savy however, this one threw me a curve.
RJ
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: Robert McClernon on May 06, 2016, 07:08:05 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105935 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105935)
Engine battery does not usually charge off in inverter charger, you must put a jumper from house batteries. If you have proper voltage in starter batteries and no power check connections.

Robert McClernon
2000 intrigue
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: Steve.irene on May 06, 2016, 09:45:40 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105938 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105938)
As far as engine batteries charging off of the inverter, I have an Echo Charge on my 2000 Magna that will charge the engine batteries once the house batteries have reached a set voltage. It is a $100 item that is extremely easy to install.

Steve Wilcomb
2000 '36 Magna
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: JNat_98 on May 07, 2016, 09:40:30 am
Yahoo Message Number: 105944 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105944)
I do believe all of our coaches have an echo charger which does allow chassis engine battery to charge when the inverter is charging, shore or gen. power. It is a small trickle charge maybe 10 or 15 amps but sufficient to charge a dead battery overnight or a little longer. I do know that after time the echo chargers go bad as all things do over time. Plug coach in and let inverters come on and check battery voltage on chassis battery and see if it is charging. I suspect the echo charger went bad as it did in our last 2000 CC Allure. And I do believe they divert the trickle charge as long as inverter is charging not at a certain voltage (could be wrong).
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: Alex Ritchey on May 07, 2016, 10:10:43 am
Yahoo Message Number: 105945 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105945)
If you have an echo charger check the fuse first as this was one of my solutions to engine batt charging issues.

Alex Ritchey



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Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: casteelgary266 on May 07, 2016, 02:40:48 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105947 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105947)
Where is the fuse located????
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: Ron Bodeen_1 on May 07, 2016, 02:50:00 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105948 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105948)
shop allowed coach inside for 5 days with all lights on and not plugged in, thus all batteries down to zero. Replaced engine lead acid as it would not take a charge and all functions working except cannot get 110 ac into the coach from generator or inverter. Seems to not be passed by the high voltage protector/2 minute delay. Any suggestions would sure be appreciated.

Ron & Molly, San Diego, 40' '01 Intrigue #11262 phone 619 994 0061
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: George Sanders on May 07, 2016, 04:29:58 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105949 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105949)
This is not correct. Every modern CC charges the chassis battery from the inverter charger. That is the purpose of the Echo Charger which most coaches have.

George in Birmingham
'03 Magna 6298

---In Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Engine battery does not usually charge off in inverter charger, you must put a jumper from house batteries. If you have proper voltage in starter batteries and no power check connections.

Robert McClernon
2000 intrigue
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: Alex Ritchey on May 07, 2016, 05:15:01 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105951 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105951)
Normally close to the echo charger. It will be an in line fuse.



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Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: melandal76 on May 07, 2016, 05:17:39 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105952 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105952)
I know the Prevost conversions don't charge the chassis batteries from any of the coach electrical system's .I guess that has something to do with the chassis electrical system being 24'v..
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: Hfoote41 on May 07, 2016, 11:34:19 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105960 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105960)
I have had the same problem, turned out to be the inveter. mine has a reset button(zantrex 3000) on the front of the case . pushed the button an all was good again. Hope your issue is as simple.

Harvey, 06 Magna 6670
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: oconnell on May 07, 2016, 11:38:49 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105961 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105961)
Do you get 110 from shore power? Possibility the transfer switch is issue.
Are the house batteries charged? If not the inverter will not supply any power.

Ray

They say wine improves with age! As I enter my golden years, I say age improves with wine! The Born Loser

On 5/7/2016 11:49:54 AM, "Ron Bodeen Bodie6413@... [Country-Coach-Owners]" Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Title: Re: dead engine battery
Post by: Robert on May 08, 2016, 07:23:43 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 105979 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/105979)
The Echo charger doesn't work on mine. There is two diodes attached to the solonoid connecting house and engine batteries. The echo measure the voltage difference or something like that.
On ours one of the diodes is rotted off.

Therefore I manually block the boost switch once in a while at a campsite.

In regards of not getting power from your generator, did you check the main 110v breaker at the generator?

Robert, 2007 Inspire 360

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