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Title: Zone temp readings
Post by: Greg Labadie on August 14, 2016, 12:03:12 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107621 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107621)
Do you guys have the same, or close to same, temperature readings in the 3 zones? My zone 2 is 7 degrees higher than zone 1 and 3. I have a new thermostat, and I just replaced the zone 2 thermistor today, but it reads the same high reading as old one. Above the thermistor, in cabinetry, is a switch plate with 3 ceiling light dimmer switches. Maybe that throws off the heat, but that seems like a big temp differential to me. I have reset the thermostat by pulling the fuse, but that doesn't seem to affect it. Zone 2 still reads high. Can you think of anything else I can do?

Greg

06 Magna 6642
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Michael St. John on August 14, 2016, 12:54:05 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107624 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107624)
Mine does the same differential, I attribute it to the heat the refrigerator generates. Seems if I leave the vent fan open the differential is only about 1 degree...

Mike

Michael St. John

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2005 CC Magna Matisse, C13 #6501
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Brian Morrow on August 14, 2016, 01:08:22 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107626 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107626)
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Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Greg Labadie on August 14, 2016, 01:45:35 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107628 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107628)
Weird thing is, my refrigerator is off, it is in storage.
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Mikey Drives on August 14, 2016, 09:29:30 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107630 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107630)
Relocate the temp sensor to a more open area. That is not influenced by the dimmer switches.

Mikee
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Britt Pridgen on August 14, 2016, 04:44:25 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 107637 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107637)
All three of mine read differently. The one for the front, in the thermostat, always reads high in the summer because of all the heat from the windshield. The thermosistor in the rear reads high in the heat of the day too. The one in the middle always reads low. When it's hot out I set the middle unit low enough to help cool. No need in making two units do all the work when there is a third.

Britt

2004 Intrigue 11836 
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Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Greg Labadie on August 14, 2016, 05:45:49 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 107638 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107638)
Yes I do the same, I have a little sticky on inside of cabinet with temp offsets for daytime and nighttime. I was just wishing to get them all normalized, but I can work around it. I am really searching for things to do on my coach, lol

Greg

06 Magna 6642
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Terry Ray on August 14, 2016, 10:14:29 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 107640 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107640)
Gregg, just be patient your coach is at this very moment thinking of what to break next, so that you will have plenty to do.
Don't sweat the thermostats, they can 't be fixed anyway.
Been there..

Terry Ray
08 Affinity
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Mikey Drives on August 14, 2016, 11:26:14 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 107641 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107641)
But if you read the owners manuals most can have an offset set to normalize them

Mikee
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Greg Labadie on August 15, 2016, 02:03:47 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107645 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107645)
So you can adjust the thermostat to alter the zone temperature readings? I read through my book on the RV Comfort ZC and it does not show that. It makes sense that one might be able to do that, it is a good idea, but I don't see how to do it. At least my book does not show how.

Greg

From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 7:20 PM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Zone temp readings

But if you read the owners manuals most can have an offset set to normalize them

Mikee

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Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Dick Bogaard on August 15, 2016, 04:34:23 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107646 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107646)
Could not agree more. My coach, I have found, even thinks about what major thing to break next at rest with the batteries disconnected. Never mind the thermostat.
Love it though.
Cheers,

Dick Bogaard

AC Heritage '02
80904 SS
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Terry Ray on August 15, 2016, 07:40:02 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107647 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107647)
Now you have me hooked Mikee.

Which owners manual and where do I find out how to adjust the offset.
I have RV comfort ACs and thermostat.

Terry Ray

08 Affinity 6837
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Mikey Drives on August 15, 2016, 08:00:17 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107648 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107648)
Google the make and model of thermostat you have. Most likely the owners manual is online if you do not have it in your stack of books.

Mikee
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Mikey Drives on August 15, 2016, 08:02:15 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107649 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107649)
You may need to find the installation manual. Most have temp offset features, but these may not.

Mikee
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Terry Ray on August 15, 2016, 11:05:10 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107652 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107652)
I'll study and report back. Did you see my post about welding on the chassis? Do you think by turning off the main switch I will isolate the coach enough or do I need to undo all of the cables? Since the engine batteries don't have a switch I'll disconnect them.
Terry
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Lonny & Diane Livingston on August 15, 2016, 11:14:30 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107653 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107653)
we have the same issue in our short 33' Allure with 2 AC's but we just lower the thermostat to a different temperature than the other zone.

One thing we learned is that all the zones should be on "high" fan when ambient temperatures are hot and with high humidity. Otherwise the AC units will freeze and shut down. We also found out the hard way that if one unit freezes both units don't work. Guess it's due to the energy management system??

Is the thermostat made by Coleman? What is the series number?

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I would contact the manufacturer of the thermostat.

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'04 Allure #31065
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: michaeljsz on August 17, 2016, 04:20:21 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 107717 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107717)
Hi greg, if yours is similar to ours the temp readings which eminate from the remote sensors not the thermostat are in very poor locations and do not do a good job of sensing the ambient condition. Zone 1 is located below the electronics cabinet sensing all of the sensible heat generated by the equipment zone 2 sensor is located below a supply outlet sensing the supply air temp and zone 3 is below tv components and senses the solar radiation of the window also so it doesn't supreme me to see temp with a delta t of 7 to 8 degrees, I find a temp I'm comfortable with and forget the disparity Darrell 2pp7 intrigue 12075

Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Greg Labadie on August 17, 2016, 05:02:45 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 107718 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107718)
Yeah, I am giving up. I will just make it comfortable inside and then make a conversion table for day and night. Keep it simple...

Greg

06 Magna 6642
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: Walter Falch on August 17, 2016, 06:46:13 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 107721 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107721)
Smitty, has written about this subject in great detail. Apparently, they use flat telephone wire, I find that wire to be junk. Most telephone wire is round. Would be nice if someone could come up with better sensors, that however doesn't do anything for the media or location. Also, another wish list item, is a "Nest" like controller. like they have in homes.

Wally & Elta Mae

2007Allure 470 #31535
Title: Re: Zone temp readings
Post by: michaeljsz on August 19, 2016, 10:17:42 am
Yahoo Message Number: 107746 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/107746)
Yes Greg after 30 yrs as a HVAC contractor I tell customers to disregard the number and set the stat to a number that is comfortable