Yahoo Message Number: 108609 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108609)
Does anyone have a fix for dim lights on the monitor panel of a 2000 Magna?... It is extremely hard to discern any of the fill levels for the various water tanks on the coach. The lights are lighting up, but they are extremely dim. They can be read if it is the middle of the night and no lights are on in the coach. However, if there are lights on, I can not read the panel. Does anyone know of a fix?
Thanks
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2000 CC Magna 36ft
Yahoo Message Number: 108611 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108611)
Are you talking about your SilverLeaf monitor? On mine there is a programming button to set the brightness for both daytime and nighttime use.
Greg
06 Magna 6642
From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 12:43 AM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna
Does anyone have a fix for dim lights on the monitor panel of a 2000 Magna?... It is extremely hard to discern any of the fill levels for the various water tanks on the coach. The lights are lighting up, but they are extremely dim. They can be read if it is the middle of the night and no lights are on in the coach. However, if there are lights on, I can not read the panel. Does anyone know of a fix?
Thanks
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2000 CC Magna 36ft
Yahoo Message Number: 108612 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108612)
You can replace the bulbs. Do a search from the group yahoo page for this group. There was quite a few posts on this subject and instrument panel brightness.
Hope this helps.
Alex Ritchey 2000 CC Affinity B&B 42' tag
Yahoo Message Number: 108613 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108613)
nope, not the silverleaf. On the 2000 Magna there is a monitor panel over the passenger seat which displays the "fullness" status of the black water, grey water, fresh water, and LP tank. Depending on which toggle switch is pressed, the display indicates empty, 1/4 full, 1/2 full, 3/4 full, full. A small lightbulb is beneath each. The bulbs all glow (dimly) as the appropriate toggle switch is activated, but the light is too dim to be seen if it isn't dark inside the coach.
Yahoo Message Number: 108614 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108614)
Thanks, but I did a search. I can not find anything referring to the dim lights. I seem mostly to find stuff on "instrument" panel lights, but the issues seemed to be more with the rheostat control than the bulb assembly.
More help?....
Thanks
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36 ft 2000 Magna
Yahoo Message Number: 108615 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108615)
did search again... and found it under "dash" lights...
Thanks for the tip
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Yahoo Message Number: 108618 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108618)
I've found Art at Silverleaf to be wonderfully helpful. 541-967-8111
Regards,
Mike St John
2005 CC Magna Matisse C13, #6501
Yahoo Message Number: 108619 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108619)
Hey Skip, I have the same problem on my 2000 Magna #5784. I was going to try and replace the light bulbs with led's. They are tiny so not sure there is a replacement. Next I am going to try and "clean" the routing that shows which function is being lit. Please let me know if you find a fix...
Steve
Yahoo Message Number: 108621 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108621)
My tank lights are bright. If all of your lights are dim I would suspect a ground problem on those circuits. I haven't looked but I assume all of these lights share a common ground wire. Try checking the ground wire or run another ground wire to them.
pete
2000 40' Magna CAT C-10, #5892
Yahoo Message Number: 108622 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108622)
There may also be a dropping resistor in the circuit for the bulbs that may be increasing in value. If so you need to replace it.
Mikee
Yahoo Message Number: 108623 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108623)
It's not a ground problem. It is a design problem. I had the same problem and asked CC about it years ago. The problem is the bulbs are too far back of the front lens and the bulbs were not bright enough. I replaced all of the bulbs with a higher output and it worked. I don't have the part number of the new bulbs because a good friend found the right bulbs for me and I didn't keep the numbers. Sorry.
2006 Allure 42' 31936 Stanwood, Wash.
Jim Nichols Sent
Yahoo Message Number: 108624 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108624)
Skip - hopefully my message #101086 came up with your search. In it and a couple others around it I discussed my experience changing out the monitor panel lights to LED's. Nothing has changed since I originally wrote that response. It is interesting that someone is getting plenty of light with the original bulbs. The ground shouldn't have been my problem as the LED's work fine, but Mikee's resistor may be a factor. Before switching to LED's my lights were only visible at night in very low lighting. Let me know if you have further questions.
Dan
2000 Magna #5788
Yahoo Message Number: 108627 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108627)
Check your grounds!! If you have dim lights then you have a bad ground some where .I would start by checking for corrosion on the battery cables!!
Yahoo Message Number: 108629 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108629)
HI Dan, do you happen to remember where you found the LED's that will replace the tiny bulbs? Do they have a number??
Thanks in advance,
Steve 2000 Magna #5784
Yahoo Message Number: 108632 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108632)
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The good news is that they have gotten less expensive since I bought mine. Let me know if you need additional info.
Dan
2000 Magna #5788
Yahoo Message Number: 108633 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108633)
Thanks so much Dan, will get on it as soon as I can. Great to know that there are folks like you that will help. Where are you located? We are in Yuma AZ.
Steve 2K Magna #5784
Yahoo Message Number: 108634 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108634)
Yahoo Message Number: 108636 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108636)
Yahoo Message Number: 108641 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108641)
Steve, I'm in Fort Worth, TX.
Dan
2000 Magna #5788
Yahoo Message Number: 108646 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108646)
If you are talking about the dash board lights, I had mine changed to LED's and it made a huge difference. Contact me if you want to know how many of each color etc.
Wally & Elta Mae
2007Allure 470 #31535
Yahoo Message Number: 108650 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108650)
I changed my tank monitoring light to LEDs and it made it worst. The amount of current it takes to turn on the LED is very small. In my case all the LEDs would always light up when checking any of the wet tanks regardless of the actual level. Any amount of leakage current between the sensors turned on the LEDs. I did multiple tank cleanings and it did not help. It worked great for the LP reading. Maybe putting a resistor in series with the LED might work.I put the incandescent bulb back in and got accurate reading again.
Frank
2000 MAGNA 5766
Yahoo Message Number: 108656 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108656)
Yes, your message was the one that helped.... I've ordered the LED versions and will give them a try.
Thanks to you and everyone who've been responding. It is great to get ideas from people who've already solved problems.
Thanks
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Yahoo Message Number: 108834 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108834)
I just did the changeover to LED lights ... I used the ones referenced in an earlier message. I too had the "always on" experience, but I switched the polarity on the LED's (by rotating the bulbs 180 degrees) and voila. Now I have nice bright readings for each level in the tanks.
Now I'm adding bulbs to the voltage readout on the monitor panel. It was easy to find the correct polarity for the two values of 12.5 and 12.0 volts. However, I'm still fiddling with getting the polarities right for the other readings.... It is difficult because my batteries are quite content to readout those two values. Getting the panel to activate the other values is not so easy. I guess I'll need to closely inspect the bulbs and see if I can figure out which way they sit in the sockets when they are in the proper polarity.
Thanks to every one who helped.... I'm considering adding these same (or colored ones which are available too) LED's in other bulb spots. They sure make reading the panel values much easier.
Yahoo Message Number: 108871 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108871)
You stated in your post that you had experienced the "always on" lights in the dash & toggle switches. How did you correct it? We just experienced it within the last 3 weeks. I have been shutting off the chassis battery switch to preserve our new chassis batteries.
Any help from any of the website members is welcomed.
Thanks,
Brad Ward
2000 Magna 36'
#5916
Chelan, Wa now in Surprise, AZ
Yahoo Message Number: 108873 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108873)
Hi, we had the same issu 3week ago, called butch williams at fountain rv in fla, he told me there are 3 power transitors in front run bay under driver comp,i cut wire 181 red from the power transitoron 2 of them, fof now that stop the power to panel lts for now till i get a chance to check out the diodes on the head lt sw. Charles 5886 2000 magna, call me if you need more info828-2736099
Yahoo Message Number: 108883 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/108883)
I extracted the new LED bulbs. I rotated the new LED bulbs by 180 degrees. I re-inserted the bulbs in the socket. Hope this helps....
Yahoo Message Number: 110153 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/110153)
This is a continuation of a thread from October 2016 regarding dim lighting in the dash lights and tank level lights.
Short recap: I changed out my dash and tank monitor lights to proper colored LED light bulbs. Worked great except that a couple of the bulbs remained dimly lit when they should have been off. Not a big deal but not quite right.
I finally got back into seeking a fix for this and appear to have it accomplished. I added resistors to each of the affected lights. I am attaching some pics (if successful) to show the before/after shots and a pic showing the resistor used. These are all on the tank monitor panel. I also added resistors to a couple of the dash lights that continued to glow dimly when they should have been out. In all cases with the added resistor the lights when out but still functioned normally when lit. I included a pic of the monitor panel showing all the lights when fully lit (LP Gas level). My tank level lights were almost impossible to see in the daylight and appeared to be all the same color (white). After changing the bulbs out to LED I could see they were in fact different colors. I then changed out the LED bulbs to the correct color and this was the final result. These pics were taken in daylight (although in late afternoon) but are very visable even in bright sunlight.
If there is any bad information or advise here please don't hesitate to let me know - I'm okay with being wrong. I have no desire to lead anyone else down a wrong path. If my fix leads to other problems with time and use I will pass along my findings.
Hope this helps,
Dan
2000 Magna #5788
Yahoo Message Number: 110185 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/110185)
Hi Dan. Just read about the led relamping, we have a 2000 magna also and the dash lts are to dim to see at daytime, what size and what color range did you use, did you used a resistor or a diode to stop the backfeed. Where did you buy the leds. Thanks Charles 2000 magna 5886
Yahoo Message Number: 110187 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/110187)
Hi, Dan. We also have a 2000 magna and the monitor lts on dash are to dim to see in daytime, what type of led did you put in and where they come from, did you put a resistor or diode in line to stop backfeed. Thanks Charles5886 magna
Yahoo Message Number: 110188 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/110188)
Charles,
I got the LED bulbs online from Super Bright LEDs.com. Here's a link - 74 LED Bulb - 1 SMD LED - Miniature Wedge Retrofit | Subminiature | Specialty & Automotive | LED Light Bulbs - Universal Finder | Super Bright LEDs (https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/subminiature-bulbs/74-led-bulb-1-smd-led-miniature-wedge-retrofit-car/227/)
Those pics I included the other day were taken late afternoon but they are equally visible in bright sun. It's an amazing difference. If you click on the "Show all xx messages in this topic" just below the message it will bring up all the previous posts (in the case from last October). I attached last weeks post to that older thread so the information would be easier to find. There is a lot of good information there.
I used 1K ohm resistors. I bought a couple of lesser ohm resistors just in case the 1K ohm dimmed the bulb but the output didn't seem to be dimming at all so I never ever tried the others. I added resistors to 3 of the lights in the dash and all the tank level lights on the monitor panel with the exception of the "Full" light which didn't appear to have the problem. I may go back and add a resistor to that bulb just because it's easy and to eliminate any possible future issue.
In one of those October posts Mikee talked about the possibility of a resistor somewhere in the system that might need replacing. I have no idea if there is or where it might be located but adding the individual resistors didn't take that much time or effort. I probably spent an hour doing both the dash and monitor panel lights.
In one of those October posts I referenced an older post of mine where I talked about the original light installation and the bulb colors. It was pretty comprehensive regarding what I went thru. The bottom line is that installing colored bulbs vs all white bulbs is worth the effort.
Hope this helps, Always available if you have additional questions.
Dan
2000 Magna #5788
Yahoo Message Number: 110202 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/110202)
he following is a list of LED bulbs I used to update my incandescent bulbs in my 2000 Magna.
Lower Dash:
Passenger Heater Control:
(2) #74 WH
Ignition Switch Panel:
Driver Heater Control:
(2) #74 WH
Switches:
(8) #74 WH
Overhead Blower:
(6) #74 WH
Upper Dash:
Center Gauges:
(8) #158 WH
(2) #74 GR (Turn signals)
(12) #74 WH
(1) #74 BLUE (High beam)
Left Gauges:
(7) #74 WH
(1) #158 WH
(1) #1895 WH
Driver Panel (Under window):
Allison Transmission Controls:
(7) #74 WH
Switches:
(17) #74 WH
Overhead Panels:
Left:
(12) #74 WH
Right:
(24) #74 WH
(1) #74 BLUE
(1) #74 RED
AC over drivers seat:
(2) #74 RED
(1) #74 GREEN
(7) #74 WH
Bedroom Panel:
(10) #74 WH
All of the above LED lights were purchased from Amazon. Type in the bulb # and color with LED after it and you will see what is available. I have also replaced all my ceiling and valance lights with LED’s.
Don Clemens
2000 Magna #5854
Yahoo Message Number: 110262 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/110262)
Wow! What an improvement! Thanks for that inventory Don. As an experiment, I replaced the turn signal indicators, Jake Brake indicator, High Beam indicator and the 12'-1" clearance indicator with those LEDs and it makes a huge difference!
Yahoo Message Number: 114010 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/114010)
Hi, still having new led light coming on when inplace of the old ind lamp for the check goodis engine, old ind lamp is good and does not light up, do i need a ristor or a diode? thanks Any thoughts Charles 2000 magna 5886 Don Clemens coach 5854 did you have this problem, thanks
Yahoo Message Number: 114013 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/114013)
Charles - Check my post
My issue wasn't the "Check Engine" but a couple of other lights on the same panel that remained lit (not bright but still visible at night). Hope this helps in your situation. Let me know if you need further information.
Dan
2000 Magna #5788