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Title: thermostat
Post by: Stan and Joni Vander Ploeg on January 31, 2004, 08:48:13 am
Yahoo Message Number: 8205 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8205)
I called CC and they said turning thermostat to the right or clockwise would make it the hottest in the bay- Mine works fine-
Stan Vander Ploeg
2003Intrigue #11556
Fulltiming
Title: Re: thermostat
Post by: Bill Harris on January 31, 2004, 09:37:16 am
Yahoo Message Number: 8206 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8206)
Hi, Stan

Do you have any idea how much heat is being output by that bay radiator? Have you ever monitored the temp relative to the outside temp while driving?

Bill Harris

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Title: Thermostat
Post by: Stan and Joni Vander Ploeg on January 31, 2004, 08:31:16 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 8209 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8209)
Bill-

No driving in cold-

Coldest I had was in Denver- 12 degrees- and in the bay it was 43 degrees-
Stan

2003 Intrigue #11556
Fulltiming
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Bill Harris on February 01, 2004, 07:14:31 am
Yahoo Message Number: 8211 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8211)
Stan,

That sounds more like it. The CC phone tech (Tony) was no help, he did not have a clue as to how cold it should get down there. I will have it looked at during the March rally.

Bill Harris

Quote from: stanley20002152
Title: Thermostat
Post by: Brian on December 26, 2007, 11:23:33 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 36228 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/36228)
Hi all,

I have a small issue with my thermostat on my 04 Allure. After I flip on the switch to turn on my thermostat, I am unable to get zone 1 to "furnace" instead it says "mode off". Zone 1 is working in all the other modes(heat pump, cool, ect). I have tried the procedure to reset the thermostat to original settings, which it did successfully, but still have the "mode off" where it should say "furnace" in zone 1.
Zone 2 works fine. Any suggestions? Anyone else had a similar problem?

Brian

04 Allure.
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Larry F on December 27, 2007, 02:45:45 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 36243 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/36243)
No, but I wonder if there is a "dip" switch somewhere on the furnace to tell the system that there are 2 zones. I noticed some dip switches on my ACs that need to be set right to let the thermostat know there are 2 zones for ACs. Just a thought.

Larry 03 Allure 30856

Quote from: Brian
Hi all,
> I have a small issue with my thermostat on my 04 Allure. After I flip > on the switch to turn on my thermostat, I am unable to get zone 1 > to "furnace" instead it says "mode off". Zone 1 is working in all the > other modes(heat pump, cool, ect). I have tried the procedure to

reset
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Brian on December 27, 2007, 07:37:50 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 36252 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/36252)
Anyone have any idea where the access to the furnace is so I can check out the dip switches? I have been looking, no luck so far.

Thanks.

Brian
04 Allure

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No, but I wonder if there is a "dip" switch somewhere on the

furnace to

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tell the system that there are 2 zones. I noticed some dip

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my ACs that need to be set right to let the thermostat know there

are 2

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zones for ACs. Just a thought.

Larry 03 Allure 30856

[quote author=Brian"

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> Hi all,
>

> I have a small issue with my thermostat on my 04 Allure. After I

flip

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on the switch to turn on my thermostat, I am unable to get zone

1

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to "furnace" instead it says "mode off". Zone 1 is working in

all the

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other modes(heat pump, cool, ect). I have tried the procedure to > reset

> the thermostat to original settings, which it did successfully,

but

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still have the "mode off" where it should say "furnace" in zone

1.

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Zone 2 works fine. Any suggestions? Anyone else had a similar

problem?
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Brian on December 27, 2007, 08:14:50 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 36253 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/36253)
Sorry,

Forgot to mention that I have the Hydro Hot, not the std furnace.
Looking for the dip switches, already checked the Hydro Hot electronics board, no luck.

Brian
04 Allure

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Anyone have any idea where the access to the furnace is so I can > check out the dip switches? I have been looking, no luck so far.

Thanks.
Brian
04 Allure

> No, but I wonder if there is a "dip" switch somewhere on the > furnace to

> tell the system that there are 2 zones. I noticed some dip > switches on

> my ACs that need to be set right to let the thermostat know

there

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are 2

> zones for ACs. Just a thought.
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> Larry 03 Allure 30856
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>

[quote author=Brian"
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> >

> > Hi all,
> >

> > I have a small issue with my thermostat on my 04 Allure. After

I

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flip

> > on the switch to turn on my thermostat, I am unable to get

zone

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1

> > to "furnace" instead it says "mode off". Zone 1 is working in > all the

> > other modes(heat pump, cool, ect). I have tried the procedure

to

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reset

> > the thermostat to original settings, which it did
successfully,

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but

> > still have the "mode off" where it should say "furnace" in

zone
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Tom on December 27, 2007, 08:53:01 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 36255 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/36255)
If you'll check previous posts, someone had the same situation and it turned out they needed to reset the logic on the thermostat, but for the life of me I can't remember the procedure.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Matsprt1984 on December 29, 2007, 12:00:27 am
Yahoo Message Number: 36300 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/36300)
Brian,

Has it ever worked before ?? If, yes, what has changed since ??

Michael

01' Intrigue #11224

Quote from: Brian
Hi all,

I have a small issue with my thermostat on my 04 Allure. After I

flip

Quote
on the switch to turn on my thermostat, I am unable to get zone 1 > to "furnace" instead it says "mode off". Zone 1 is working in all

the

Quote
other modes(heat pump, cool, ect). I have tried the procedure to

reset

Quote
the thermostat to original settings, which it did successfully,

but

Quote
still have the "mode off" where it should say "furnace" in zone 1.
Zone 2 works fine. Any suggestions? Anyone else had a similar

problem?
Title: Thermostat
Post by: Bob Mussman on March 30, 2008, 09:06:34 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 37751 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/37751)
The part of the thermostat that controls zone 3 seems to be malfunctioning. Whether controlling gas (HydoHot), heat pump or air conditioner, it short cycles and causes each to start and run for as little as several seconds up to two minutes and then stop. After about fifteen seconds, it will restart the function. Any ideas?

Bob Mussman

2006 Allure 470 31434
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Rod Reames on March 30, 2008, 09:40:39 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 37752 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/37752)
I discovered the same problem before I left Lazy Days where I bought my 06' Allure (40' with two a/c's). The problem with the front(Zone 1) is that they put the sensor on the audio components cabinet. We called CC and they told us how to reroute the sensor to the front A/C intake. It still short cycles. The back A/C sensor is mounted on the frame of the rear closet and it cycles normally. All in all, it is my belief it was a design problem but there is no way to correct it now. Since the duct is common to all A/C's, I turn the front real low at night which also cools the B/R without the noise and run the back wide open when we are watching TV at night with a higher setting on the front. thomasreames '06 Allure 40' #31409


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Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Bob Mussman on April 03, 2008, 01:00:43 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 37857 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/37857)
I need to give more details concerning this thermostat problem.

1. The thermostat for this zone has worked perfectly for well over one year.

2. When operating on the gas position (HydroHot), approximately 70% of the time it works fine.
The remainder of the time, it short cycles the system as it runs the two Zone 3 heat exchangers for about 3 seconds on, one minute off, then 3 seconds on again, etc.. This cycle continues until I turn off the system at the thermostat. These three second runs are not enough to produce any heat.

3. When cooling with Zone 3, the system is stopped and started so rapidly it also has no chance to produce any cold air.

4. At times when the above is happening, the temperature reading at
the thermostat jumps up and down ten to fifteen degrees rapidly.

Any ideas??

Bob Mussman

2006 AQllure 470 31434

Quote from: motorhomecatz
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The part of the thermostat that controls zone 3 seems to be > malfunctioning. Whether controlling gas (HydoHot), heat pump or air > conditioner, it short cycles and causes each to start and run for

as

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little as several seconds up to two minutes and then stop. After

about
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Mikee on April 03, 2008, 01:13:37 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 37859 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/37859)
Bob,

It sounds like a bad thermostat or maybe on an outside chance a loose wire....

Mikee

In a message dated 04/03/08 13:01:13 Eastern Daylight Time, rvmussman writes:
Title: Thermostat
Post by: Scotthull24 on December 27, 2009, 05:23:14 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55135 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55135)
I am wondering if anyone has experienced this problem or can offer any advice. I have a 2005 Magna. When I try to set either zone 2 or 3 to "furnace", it has disappeared! The thermostat will show me cool, fan and heat pump but the "Furnace" selection has completely disappeared from the list. It is still there for zone 1 and works fine. The coach is plugged in and of course I have the hydro hot running. I am thinking that it may be a fuse but have no idea. The Hydro hot panel out side shows all is well. Help?!Thank you Scott 2005 Magna
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Leonard Kerns on December 27, 2009, 05:46:38 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55136 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55136)
Hi Scott,

Yep. Had the same problem. Found the problem in the front electrical bay. There is a aluminum box with no ID information on it. It contains the wiring for the controls system. Full of diodes and relays. Try to tighten all the screws for the diode leads. I had one just a bit loose, I could see copper colored spots where it was arching. That fixed the problem. Ours would come and go, sometimes it would work other times behave as you describe. Another work around is to look in the manuel and find the two separate relays for Zone 1 & 2 and jumper them together to be controlled by zone 1. Of course, it could be other things, there is a fuse on each control board in the roof A/C units. Worth checking. If you still have the 4 button thermostat system, could be a thermostat problem. Checking the screws and fuse is very cheap compared to updating the thermostat and control boards in both A/C units. I have done the update on two separate coaches and feel the update to the five button is worth the expense when the 4 button unit goes. There is also a combination of buttons to push and hold to reset the thermostat. Look in your manuel and that is worth a try as well.

Leonard

97 Magna 5418
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Scott Hull on December 27, 2009, 05:57:06 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55137 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55137)

Leonard, I looked in the bay and there is tons of stuff. I do not see an aluminum box at all. I will have to get up on the roof and check the a/c . Thanks for the information, hopefully I can get it resolved.
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Leonard Kerns on December 27, 2009, 06:00:38 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55138 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55138)
Scott, be sure you have all power off when you check the fuse. 110 is up there.
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Chuck & Mary B on December 27, 2009, 06:32:34 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55140 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55140)
Hi Scott,

If you have a Duo Therm comfort control thermostat, hold the top and bottom buttons in at the same time and turn it off and then back on while holding the buttons. Release the two buttons and "FF" should appear in the display. Then turn the thermostat off and then back on. This is the reset proceedure.

Chuck & Mary B

Red Bluff, Ca.

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Scott Hull on December 27, 2009, 07:05:31 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55142 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55142)

Hi, I have already tried doing this and it did not change. Thank you for your response!
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Mnc4me2004 on December 27, 2009, 07:23:02 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55143 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55143)
I had the identical problem on my 04 Allure. Mine had "Dip switches" on the AC/Heat pumps on the roof. Pulled the cover off the front unit and one of the dip switches somehow got switched off. Hope this helps.

Brian

Still looking for next coach.
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Chuck & Mary B on December 27, 2009, 08:42:20 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55145 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55145)
Hi Scott,

You need to go "up on the roof" and take off the shroud off the air unit in question. On the passenger side there is a small box with a cover that has the circuit board inside. The cover probably has a wiring diagram on it. Open the box up to expose the circuit board. The board has several wires going to it including a plug in wire that goes to the heater. There is a dip switch module on the board. The dip switches controls the zone and the heater that is wired to it. Some boards have got wet from moisture when the outside temp falls at night and rise fast in the daytime. Dometic failed to seal the holes where the wiring harness goes into the box from the inside of the unit. Warm air from the inside of the coach settles on the cold board and condenses. Duo Therm also provides control boxes to interface more than one AquaHot zone to a assigned air conditioner.

Chuck & Mary B

Red Bluff, Ca.

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Linda Vandehoef on December 27, 2009, 09:23:56 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55147 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55147)
We just had the same problem recently. The circuit board up on the front AC unit was fried.
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Scotthull24 on December 27, 2009, 09:24:03 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55148 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55148)
Thanks, I will get up there tomorrow and take a look.
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Chuck & Mary B on December 27, 2009, 10:00:28 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55152 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55152)
DuoTherm told me to seal around the wire harness and the hole they go through with rope caulk.

Chuck & Mary B

Red Bluff, Ca.

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Rob Heath on December 28, 2009, 01:46:55 am
Yahoo Message Number: 55159 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55159)
Scott, Zone 2 does not have a furnace function, only zones 1 and 3....

rob

05 Magna
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Bob Ozich on December 28, 2009, 08:43:38 am
Yahoo Message Number: 55161 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55161)
Scott ROB is correct zone 2 does NOT have a furnace capability BOB
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Scotthull24 on December 28, 2009, 10:25:56 am
Yahoo Message Number: 55165 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55165)
Rob, we have always had Furnace in all 3 zones. Just used them a week ago before it quit. The DuoTherm is a 5 button model as well.
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Scotthull24 on December 28, 2009, 10:26:45 am
Yahoo Message Number: 55166 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55166)
Yes, zone 2 is the hallway, no furnace. Zone 3 is the bedroom and has a furnace
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Jamesbiestek on December 28, 2009, 01:21:32 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55170 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55170)
Does this procedure work for both the 4 button and the 5 button thermostats? Jim Biestek

'04 Intrigue, 11783
Title: Thermostat
Post by: Scotthull24 on December 28, 2009, 02:27:04 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55174 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55174)
Just a quick thank you to everyone and especially Kevin for the phone call.
We replaced every single phone connector in all 3 roof airs, re checked the "dips" and one was questionable. We now have all zones working properly after resetiing the thermostat.
Thanks all again and Happy New Years. Be safe and well.
Scott & ellie Hull
2005 Magna
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Chuck & Mary B on December 28, 2009, 09:36:15 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55182 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55182)
Hi Jim,

I do not know if it will work with 4 button thermostats.

Chuck & Mary B

Red Bluff, Ca.

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat
Title: Re: Thermostat
Post by: Earl on December 29, 2009, 02:44:06 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 55193 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/55193)
Jim, go to the files section and open file "Dometic AC Trouble Shooting guide", then open the link, on page 105 of the guide it explains how to reset the four button t-stat.

Earl Densten

03 Intrigue 11554