Yahoo Message Number: 8390 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8390)
Our ordered Inspire (40' Da Vinvi) comes off line in two weeks. This is our first motorhome and we expect to be on the road every third weekend and the entire summer. We are both teachers so we have lots of time to travel over the next 10 years before we retire. What types of basic problems and challenges should we be expecting from both the coach and the road?
Yahoo Message Number: 8391 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8391)
I am finding the co-ordinating towels, sheets, pot holders an interesting pasttime or activity.
There are lots of tips including adding different storage units for supplies in the bays (underneath the unit) depends on your activities.
Take your time and ask questions and observe other RVers to see how they do things.
Then take what works for you and incorporate it for yourself.
Yahoo Message Number: 8392 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8392)
Hi
Expect everything - and hope for the best.
Despite the fact you've purchased "The World's Best Motorhome" I absolutely guarantee you will have issues.
PLEASE - plan to spend at least one week at Camp Country Coach before heading anywhere. Use every single system in the coach at least twice, then go up into the beautiful Oregon mountains and/or beaches (I live here in Oregon about 1 hours from Junction City), then plan to come back to Camp CC and them correct the problems that came up from rolling down the road.
Then - say a faithful prayer and begin enjoying your new lifestyle.....
Enjoy the trips and welcome. It's never been promised to be a trouble free lifestyle.....but it's the greatest!
Tom Sims
Intrigue 2002
Yahoo Message Number: 8395 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8395)
Don't try to do to much or drive to far, just enjoy, and stay off the free ways. TOM/CAROL Intrigue 11731
Yahoo Message Number: 8397 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8397)
4 trips back to CC fpr warranty work. Remember that RVing is a sport.
john drebick
affinity 6194
Yahoo Message Number: 8416 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8416)
From: "morphdorph"
It's better to expect "everything" to go wrong than to expect "nothing" to go wrong. That way, you won't be surprised when "something" does go wrong.
That said, make sure you join an ERS (Emergency Road Service), like Coach-Net (http://www.coach-net.com) if your warranty doesn't cover roadside problems. It's also a good idea to carry a basic assortment of quality tools, although odds are that the tool you'll need won't be one of the ones you have (not really ... but it's a good legend ). Perhaps one of the most important things is to ensure that tires are inflated properly for the load that's actually on them. Practice checking tire pressure before you leave to ensure that you have the proper (push-pull) tire gauge. The posted tire pressures don't "know" how loaded the coach will be, so it's important to have it four-corner-weighed, so you can inflate tires IAW the tires' load/inflation chart. Also realize that you shouldn't go nutso trying to keep the engine oil level perfectly at the "full" mark. It'll surely go down and find its own level and stay there for a long time. At least that's common experience.
Also realize that your tires have a sustained speed rating ... probably 75mph. So you shouldn't drive at sustained speeds over 75mph, especially when it's hot out. And, of course, it may be unwise to drive that fast in the first place .
If you'll be towing a toad (towed vehicle), strongly consider installing auxiliary brakes on it. Law? I don't care about no stinkin' law. I simply want to stop as quickly as possible in an emergency situation, and an auxiliary braking system facilitates that.
Ignore highway weigh stations, since they're for commercial vehicles, only.
You'll get other good responses, I'm sure. And keep asking questions.
After 37 years' RVing, I'm still learning
Dick (& Geri) Campagna
'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97
(in Key West, FL)
Yahoo Message Number: 8421 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8421)
I believe towing is included in your coach first year warranty. I had to be towed during the first year and the tech at CC called the same company I now use.
You may want to check this out and save a year on the premium. Also, if you buy an extended warranty, consider purchasing it just before your factory warranty expires.
In the car business, the rates are lower if the vehicle still includes factory warranty, even if only for a few miles.
It seems unnecessary to carry after-market warranty when you have the factory warranty during that first year.
Who know, you may luck out. I've talked to several folks with only minor nuisance problems for the first year. Lets hope you fall into that category. Happy trails! (Not trials)
Larry
Intrigue
10762
Yahoo Message Number: 8425 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8425)
The advice about staying close to the CC factory is excellent.
Reason I agree? I have an '04 Inspire Genoa 40' which I've had since September '03. Have put about 6000 miles on it and have an appointment with the factory service dept to repair 30+ problems I have with the coach. The issues range from the position of the toilet to damage done to the wall while installing stuff in the bathroom. The flange in the floor was installed crooked so the installer turned the toilet to make it face correctly. Caused damage to a seal and it leaked the first two months I had it until the staff at Interstate RV in Lodi, WI found the error. I now face the corner when going potty, but at least the darned thing doesn't leak right now! The projection TV stopped working after three movies...it was running hot before then and I had to remove the cover to keep it running. There is a tile loose in the toilet area, a bad vibration when I'm driving at highway speeds and the bedroom slideout leaks...the list goes on and on. I'm not sure if I am happy with my purchase or not. It realy depends on if the problems are fixed to my satisfaction so that I can get on with my retirement.
Carol
'04 Inspire Genoa (full time)
'03 Explorer behind it - pushing??
Yahoo Message Number: 8426 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8426)
Where can I find those tips? Have a lot of "stuff" that needs proper storage!
Also need some tips for storage in the living area. (When will manufacturers at least design cabinets in which those Rubbermaid storage boxes fit??)
Thanks,
Carol
'04 Inspire Genoa
'03 Explorer
Yahoo Message Number: 8427 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8427)
Sounds like you bought a National RV product with a CC name on it. The Inspire is the end product of CC selling out to National RV. The Inspire is a National product with a CC name on it and the same quality control problems being experienced by National owners.
Yahoo Message Number: 8429 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8429)
Carol, personally I do not think it makes much of a difference which model you purchase as to the problems (or number of problems) you encounter. We have purchased two Affinities and have had numerous issues with both. On the contrary we also know other CC owners who had little or no problems after factory delivery. It seems like luck of the draw (or the line it was on) or the experience of the line during that time. Just hang in there, it will all work out. Dale & Candace Hollick
Yahoo Message Number: 8430 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8430)
I totally agree, and you will find they will stand behind their product. TOM/CAROL 11731
Yahoo Message Number: 8431 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8431)
100% wrong. You are thinking of the Mystique, which failed miserably.
The Inspire is made at Country Coach by Country Coach on a Dynomax chassis. It shares nothing with a NRV product.
Damon
Yahoo Message Number: 8432 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8432)
Damon
From my perspective, you can call the Inspire a CC if you like, but simply building a coach in Junction City on a dynomax chassis does not make it a CC. When you look at the Inspire, it closely resembles a National RV Product and looks very much like so many other entry level diesel pushers. To be perfectly honest I don't understand what CC is doing. They have pushed the prices of their other coaches up so much they have limited their customer base to a relatively narrow segment of motor home buyers. In addition, there seems to be a never ending number of people building diesel pushers at the Inspire price point, and the competition seems to be continuously expanding.
Have a great week and I recommended that Gabie Ingraham in Kershaw, SC give you a call. He has a early 1990 Concept that he would like to trade for a coach with a slide.
Gene
Yahoo Message Number: 8433 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8433)
Gene,
I understand what you are saying. I was around when the Mystique came out & flopped, and I have watched the Inspire take off. I do not think it resembles a NRV product at all, it does not have the curved compartment doors and goofy twist handles, among other items.
Country Coach has a huge back log on Inspires, and the finished product looks better than ever. The Inspire has a lot the Mystique never offered, first & foremost being the Dynomax chassis. The floorplans are much better, Country Coach recently changed to larger 10R tires on all Inspires & also changed the front overhead from ABS plastic to hardwood like the Allure's & Intrigue's. They have a new LCD option up front, adjustable pedals, and a higher ceiling, and much more. I feel at the price point, this coach represents the Country Coach name very well. The Isnpire is also built here in Junction City at Country Coach from head to toe like the rest. In that price range it is very tough to find a competitor with everything the Inspire offers, in my opinion.
Damon
Yahoo Message Number: 8446 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8446)
If you will go back and look at 96 and 97 interiors of Allures and Intrigues, the small engines, the wimpy transmissions the small tires with metal steel wheels, poor paint jobs with gelcoat finishes, I beam front ends, crude step covers, inadequate instrumentation, horrible entertainment systems, crude floor tile, blah wall paper every where, one or two choices of wood, two or three floor plans each for only two lengths, one slide if any, single pain windows, manual awnings, crude bay door locks, dirty diesel engines, black trim, fiber glass insulation, the fact they were built on Gillig chassis, had inferior floor insulation, cheaper carpet, etc for todays price on an Inspire and there has been 40% inflation since then. It's a wonder they can build one at all, today. If you haven't noticed influences and ideas have migrated from Country Coach to National, not the other way around. Its like saying because a certain european car manufacturer bought Rolls that a Rolls is inferior, instead of the fact that they are now producing a Phaeton, quite a step up. Plus the driving forces of Monaco, Tiffen, Blue Bird Newell, and the custom convertors have done more to increase Country's prices than National. TOM/CAROL, 11731 2004 Intrigue Ovation From:Geneclend@... (Geneclend@...)
Yahoo Message Number: 8448 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8448)
Damon
I will have to take your word on the public's acceptance of the Inspire. I looked at one at the FMCA rally in Asheville, NC last fall and thought it looked really cheap. I guess if we all liked the same things, it would be a dull world.
I do have concern since there have been so many instances in the recent years where companies have tried to be everything to everybody, and that usually resulted in mediocre products/services. I hope that is not the case with CC, but only time will tell.
I plan to retire for the second time in August, so maybe we will see you at at CCI rally.
Thanks for your input.
Gene
Yahoo Message Number: 8449 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8449)
Tom
I agree with the comments about the late 90's CC products and could never understand why they did such a wonderful job in some areas, but used extremely cheap stuff in other areas.
As to your comments about prices, etc. building diesel pusher motor homes must be a lucurative business since there seems to be a new company getting into the business with every time I pickup the FMCA magazine. Don't know if you saw in the last issue that Kingsley is now building a diesel pusher!
Gene
Yahoo Message Number: 8454 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8454)
Congrats on your new coach!
Best advice of all is to videotape your walkthrough...have one of you the designated videographer and that person pays attention to only that. The other "goes through the motions" with the instructor.
You'll view and review those videotapes many times! It's amazing how much "Brain Drain" one suffers immediately after a walkthrough!
Then, don't even try to anticipate problems...just plan on total enjoyment of your time and roll with the punches. It's the best thing we've ever done! NO regrets. The people you'll meet are fabulous and SO helpful!
Jan McNeill
2001 Intrigue 11320
Fulltimer since 2001
Yahoo Message Number: 8455 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8455)
I agree.
When we started our thoughts were about all the new places we would see. We now realize that the real joy is meeting fellow travelers from all the different walks of life.
David & Karen CA.
2000 Intrigue 11062
40 ft Single slide. PT
2002 Odyssey TOAD
Yahoo Message Number: 8458 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8458)
Gene,
When they first came out they did have some area that needed work.
I will try to post some pictures of the new front overhead and larger tires, the Inspire has come along way in a short time and the sales have followed suit.
Damon
Yahoo Message Number: 8467 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8467)
Gene,
All the trailer companies are getting into diesel pushers because thats where the RV money is. I just hope they know what they are doing but then again they are all using the standard chassies. I just would not buy the models that come out during their first year.
Bill G. 2001 Magna #5998
Yahoo Message Number: 8468 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8468)
Well, heck...I used to feel pretty good about my old 1999 Allure, but after reading your post, I guess I should be ashamed of it, huh????...heh, heh...
Ray and Rue
99 Allure
Yahoo Message Number: 8480 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8480)
I had a 98 Allure(w/ISC330) therefore it was a 99 chassis and Carol wanted the green interior and therefore it was a 98. I have pictures of it from all angles and it looks great. After having it to the factory twice and to a few rallys it worked great, too. But it is no 2004, alot of the things (options) we have today were not available then and technology marches on.
It was a big improvement over my 1984 Airstream Limited travel trailer, but yet it didn't have sealed gas filled windows, retractable power and water reels, or a Nutone food processor counter plug in, aluminum wheels, Michelin tires or vista view windows. It was my fault I didn't get an Intrigue. What I am trying to say is, that we are all influenced by time and progress. If you are happy with your coach, great, but one day you will see another one down the road that you will like better. Progress waits for no one.
TOM/CAROL
Yahoo Message Number: 8487 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/8487)
Whewwww. I didn't realize there was such a difference between the '97 and '98 Intrigue. We're thrilled with our '98, FWIW, which is quite different than the '96/'97's you described. .
Dick (& Geri) Campagna
'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97
(in Key West, FL)
Yahoo Message Number: 11406 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11406)
We are Rick and Bobbi Aquino and living in North Myrtle Beach, SC.
I have been reading this site for about 2 years and also follow some of the personal web sites.
We purchased a 2001 Intrigue, #11285, 40' DS last month and just love it. We picked the CC because of all the positive comments I have read and it is living up to our expectations. I have contacted CC support on 2 occasions and I am impressed with their response to questions. I feel like I know a lot about this coach due to following these posts for the 2 years but also know we are in for a big learning curve, these are complicated machines.
I have a question that I feel users could better answer.
I parked the coach at home last Friday, I do not have access to shore power, with the idea of leaving the fridge running, in gas mode, for a couple of weeks till we take off again. I turned off everything I could think of in addition to the invertor. I did not turn off the 2 switches in the back storage area. I checked on things Saturday and all was fine. Had to go out of town on Monday till Thursday night, I still have to work. LOL. When I went to check on the coach this morning, Friday, the steps did not come out when I opened the door and the floor light did not come on. Checked that the step switch was on and realized there was a problem. The fridge was off and warm so figured there was a battery issue. Tried to start the genset and it wouldn't start, guess it starts off the house battery. Started the engine and then started the genset, guess running the engine charges to house battery. Backup monitor comes out but no picture. Steps and fridg work now, I probably have to reprogram the backup monitor. I didn't check on anything else. I just ran the genset a few hours and turned it off and then did turn off the 2 switches in back.
With all the things not working at the same time I fugure the batteries were completly dead. This is a 2001 and I have no problem getting new batteries if that is the problem. They all had plenty of water in them.
I would have thought that just running the fridge and whatever other loads are there that I don't know about still would not have run these batteries all the way down in 5 or less days unless they are just about gone anyway.
The question is should I be able to just turn the engine off and leave the coach for a week or so and not run the batteries down? Assuming I only want the fridge on and turn off everyting else. Or is there so much of a load with the 2 switches left on that the batteries won't last a week? I assume with the switches off I can not run the fridge.
Long post but wanted to understand if I am doing things correctly. If I can't leave the fridge on like this I will just clean it out each time and turn off those 2 switches and probably won't have the problem again.
WOW, that is the only expression I can think of to use. This is one quality machine.
Yahoo Message Number: 11408 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11408)
Welcome, Dick and Barbara. I know you'll be glad you decided on CC. Re your battery problem, we have some electrical experts on this board who know a whole lot more than do I, but I think you'l find the refr. pulls some amps even when operating on gas. We always turn our refr. off if home for a week or more. You might want to add a solar panel or two to trickle your batteries while parked since you have no access to shore power.
Being an 01 coach your batteries may be about gone if the originals, but that is easily checked. I suggest you get an inexpensive hygronometer ? ( the tube with the beads in it to measure specific gravity) at any auto parts store to give you some indication as to status of the batteries.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy your coach as much as I have the three CC's I've owned.
Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811
Yahoo Message Number: 11410 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11410)
Yes, a very COMPLICATED quality machine...
I have solar panels so running the refrig on gas mode when parked usually is not a problem. However, there are many phantom loads that are running even with the two battery disconnect switches set to OFF! If you want to run the frig though you cannot turn off the house batteries as 12v is needed at the frig. Your TV and VCR are phantom loads but unplugging them on my 2000 Allure means having to remove the TV. I did that one time and added a multi outlet with its own on/off switch into the small compartment next to the frig. If you have an on/off switch over the door for the inverter make sure that is set to OFF as the battery charger uses lots of juice. Others should have far more knowledge than I. Enjoy your coach. rvmike 2000 Allure 98 CRV toad.
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 04:21:20 -0000 "Richard Aquino" rlaquino2728@...> writes:
Yahoo Message Number: 11411 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11411)
I don't know how far a 110v plug is from your coach, but if it is not too far, get a heavy duty extension cord and an adaptor to plug the cord into the 50amp cord. That way you can at least keep a charge on your batteries. If you have wet cells you will need to check them more often to make that there is enough water in them. This is what I did with my '87 coach but before I got the Allure I had a new pad poured and had 50amp service installed. Enjoy, enjoy, and enjoy more!!!!!!
"Laissez Les Bon Temps Rouller"
Egon
'99 Allure #30321
'02 Tahoe Z71
Yahoo Message Number: 11412 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11412)
Hello Rick,
Another thing to check is if your inverter on/off switch really does turn the inverter on/off. I bought a used 2000 allure and found that the tv was still working when the inverter switch was set to off and I didnt have the coach connected to 110V ( dont have the generator running either )to the coach. Turns out that there is a switch on the inverter itself (which is located in a compartment just above the batteries) which was set so that the inverter was always on. Dont know if the inverter on the 2001 has the same switch or not, check your owners manual for the inverter.
Happy Trails, Bob...
Yahoo Message Number: 11416 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11416)
even with everything turned off your coach may use up to 5 amps per hour. tv's clocks, radios ect, all use a little when off to keep settings in memory also propane have electric starter
Yahoo Message Number: 11419 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11419)
Hi there, and welcome to the CC forum! We've got 11320, so we're "near you" in coaches...
We don't do much dry camping, but all I can tell you is that I wouldn't expect the batteries to last that long from our experience.
LOTS of phantom loads we've found. If we dry camp, our batteries will only go about 24 hours before we have to put the generator on to replenish the charge...and that's not using the power too much, and turning off the inverter at night.
Also, what inverter do you have? The 2001's like ours came with an Invertrix inverter which never seemed to work right...so many of them had them changed out for Trace inverters which so far, seemed to have worked better, at least for us.
We're also going to check our batteries next week when in JC to see if it's time to replace them since it's been 3 1/2 years, which for wetcells is a good time.
Enjoy the coach...
Jan McNeill, Fulltimer
2001 Intrigue 11320
Currently in Bend, OR...on way to JC Sept.9-?
Yahoo Message Number: 11420 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11420)
If you want to know how much juice you are using get a ammeter tester ( the type that just clamp around a wire) and turn the batteries on. Then check the current with everything else turned off. This should give you an idea of how much power you are drawing with everything off. You can actually start pulling fuses and be able to monitor a drop in amperage. When you find a circuit drawing power the gauge should reflect this. Next turn your fridge on and check the draw from it.
If for and example your fridge drew 1 amp and you had a 100 amp battery you would draw your battery down to 50 percent in 50 hours. This would help answer battery question particular to your coach. You would also have a better idea of what you can do and can't do.
The life of most batteries is suppose to be about five years. Batteries can sometimes be brought back to life if they aren't towards the end of their life. If you take your coach to someone that just deals in batteries they might be able to recharge your batteries or fix you up with new ones that would last. The place where I go in the Seattle area says the stores they sell batteries to are always bringing back batteries that are still good. They told me about 75% where still usable. So this is worth looking into.
Yahoo Message Number: 11426 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11426)
Thanks to all that responded to my question about batteries and the suggestions received. Also to Damon who has been talking to me off line; he lurks here and I have felt he has been an asset and gives valid information to the group. And no, I did not purchase from him.
I did get a great education on the batteries and the systems that support them and rely on them.
This coach is like some of the boats I have owned. Use them daily and you probably will see little problem. Let them sit and well you know.
It sounds like it is not practical to run the fridge if the coach is going to sit for long periods of time, mainly due to the other loads on the batteries. That is unless I install a solar panel or use shore power. I could also go out there every few days and run the genset; good reason to check on it. It's not a big issue and I will just clean out the fridge each time.
I am going to test the batteries just to see how they are but at 3+ years I am going to get new ones anyway. These batteries probably should go 4-5 years but just like in Nascar, putting on 4 new stickers gives you a much higher level of confidence. I will also look into replacing the inverter with the Trace and at the same time look into some type of Autostart system; from what I have read this should be a standard feature anyway.
Again, thanks. Great group for an excellent product.
Yahoo Message Number: 11431 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11431)
Richard, you might consider installing a Link 1000 as an inverter controller if it fits what you have. The primary feature making it attractive is it measures current into and out of your coach batteries which is much more useful and accurate than the traditional voltage reading.
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I am going to test the batteries just to see how they are but at 3+ years I am going to get new ones anyway. These batteries probably should go 4-5 years but just like in Nascar, putting on 4 new stickers gives you a much higher level of confidence. I will also look into replacing the inverter with the Trace and at the same time look into some type of Autostart system; from what I have read this should be a standard feature anyway. Again, thanks. Great group for an excellent product.
Yahoo Message Number: 11432 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11432)
Try equalizing the batteries if your inverter has the feature. That's what equalizing is for.
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The life of most batteries is suppose to be about five years. Batteries can sometimes be brought back to life if they aren't towards the end of their life. If you take your coach to someone that just deals in batteries they might be able to recharge your batteries or fix you up with new ones that would last. The place where I go in the Seattle area says the stores they sell batteries to are always bringing back batteries that are still good. They told me about 75% where still usable. So this is worth looking into. Richard Aquino wrote:
Yahoo Message Number: 11434 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/11434)
Richard, you could not have said it any better--a coach is just like a boat, let them sit and you will have trouble. Ours does not sit for too long at one time, therefor we have 65,000 miles on it. If we get the chance to get away for a couple of days, fill the water tank and put clothes in along with a stop at the grocery store and we are out of here. You have to use them--kind of like a bunch of us older guys--the more we sit around, the harder it is for us to get going. Speaking of this, I guess I better get off my duff and get some things done outside.
Egon
'99 Allure #30321
'02 Tahoe Z71