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Title: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Todd Meyer on September 18, 2017, 07:25:48 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112394 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112394)
Is it ok to run these coaches on 30amp running both A/C's?

I know 50 is preferred, but any drawbacks to using 30amp?

2005 Intrigue Suite Sensation #11890
Cummins 400 ISL
Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: David Jean on September 18, 2017, 07:29:53 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112395 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112395)
Both AC's draw more than 30A when running at the same time
D Jean
CC81072

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Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: oconnell on September 18, 2017, 07:39:54 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112396 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112396)
They will not start at the same time, once running they should be ok provided nothing else is putting a draw and the a/c's are in perfect shape.

Ray

They say wine improves with age! As I enter my golden years, I say age improves with wine! The Born Loser

Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: David Jean on September 18, 2017, 07:42:20 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112397 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112397)
OK.....But don't touch the microwave! :o
D Jean 81072
Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Wes Owens on September 18, 2017, 11:52:21 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112398 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112398)
On 30 amp with 2 A/C's running, I don't use the Microwave, but I also flip the breaker off on the electric for the water heater.
On 15 amp, with one A/C on, don't forget to turn off the water heater as well.

Wes
2000 36' Allure #40443
Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Ken/Carol Wadsworth on September 18, 2017, 11:52:36 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112399 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112399)
... or may​ on startup, when the load is highest.
Ken

Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: J Shealy on September 18, 2017, 11:52:48 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112400 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112400)
Forget trying to run 2 AC's on 30 Amp.

Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Herb Strandberg on September 19, 2017, 12:22:43 am
Yahoo Message Number: 112402 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112402)
Good instructions by other members about how to run on 30A by shedding various loads.

Just a reminder that when comparing 30A vs 50A, is that it is NOT a 20A difference -- it is 70A!!! What we know as 50A service is really TWO 50A circuits (one on each hot leg that is each 120V to ground or 240V between the two hot lines.

Turn off the Electric element in the water heater, start one Air Conditioner at a time to get bother running, don't use the microwave and, I think unmentioned in the other posts, turn down the battery charge rate, or off completely.

Herb
CCO Group Moderator
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Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Britt Pridgen on September 19, 2017, 02:11:18 am
Yahoo Message Number: 112403 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112403)
I have run mine numerous times on 30A. I have three A/C units but I only run two on 30A. That is pretty much a full load. I can still watch TV and such but if I need the microwave or the wife wants to use a hair dryer I'll turn off at least one A/C, sometimes both. Also, I do not run the electric side of the Hydro-Hot either. When I do fire up the A/C's I start one at a time. Let the first one get going then turn on the second one.

Britt
2004 Intrigue 11836
Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Todd Meyer on September 19, 2017, 09:18:57 am
Yahoo Message Number: 112404 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112404)
Thanks for all the replies.

When you are running the generator (mine is the 8500) isn't that the same output as 30a?

2005 Intrigue Suite Sensation #11890
Cummins 400 ISL

Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: J Shealy on September 19, 2017, 11:59:05 am
Yahoo Message Number: 112408 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112408)
8500 will not run both AC units on 30 Amp without tripping the breaker the minute you turn another appliance on.

Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Smitty on September 19, 2017, 03:02:24 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112410 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112410)
QD8500 should be putting out 50A. Our's does:)!

Smitty
04 Allure 31017
Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Mary and Mike Frederick on September 19, 2017, 03:15:18 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112411 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112411)
I'm pretty sure that when our 06 Inspire generator is running, 50 amps are available.

Mary F.
06 Inspire 51784

Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Mark on September 19, 2017, 04:16:07 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112412 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112412)
85D, 8500 is capable of 72A at 110V continuous load

Mark Laser
07 Inspire 51985

Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: George Sanders on September 19, 2017, 04:20:11 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112413 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112413)
The QD 8000 puts out 66.66 amps which is 33.33 amps per leg.
Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: George Sanders on September 19, 2017, 06:24:16 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112416 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112416)
Oops, forgot to sign off.

George in Birmingham
'03 Magna 6298
Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Kevin Cahill on September 20, 2017, 12:32:34 am
Yahoo Message Number: 112420 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112420)
Yes, the two will draw about 34amps. Simple numbers tell you that a 30amp service should not continuously run 34amp without wiring getting hot, voltage changes etc.... One AC unit on 30amps safely.
Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Kevin Cahill on September 20, 2017, 12:34:37 am
Yahoo Message Number: 112425 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112425)
The two AC units will draw around 34 amps when running, starting in excess of 40amps if both come on at once..

Any additional loads ( microwave, TV's, chargers for phones etc) will increase the load above the 34 amps....

I have most all of my coach converted to DC from AC to keep the AC draw to a minimum and only for certain items... AC, Microwave, hair dryers.....

Computers are all DC now, TV's DC, lights all LED, no need for the inverter almost all the time....

Kevin

On Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:11 AM, "Britt Pridgen got2ski4ever@... [Country-Coach-Owners]"  wrote:
Title: Re: 30amp vs. 50amp
Post by: Thomas St. Clair on September 20, 2017, 11:09:12 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112456 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112456)
We have two 3,000 watt Magnum (hybrid) inverters in our 2005 Magna. These units will dip into the battery bank to make up for needed power, when we are plugged into 30 amp, and need more power. After the needed surge, it will recharge the batteries. There must be sufficient energy in the batteries or you will trip the breaker. This has happened only once, when we only had three of the four 8d batteries hooked up and I was not being careful with the electrical load.

I believe that the 2016 Allure built as a prototype used one of these inverters.

Tom

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