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Title: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: FJZ on September 28, 2017, 01:26:56 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112526 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112526)
Just bought a 01 Integrity with 61K. (Wish the previous owners had some of that integrity, but I transgress) (PS.They don't remember anything of this situation. Right!)

After doing a lot a cleanup, time to test the furnace. Nothing, zip, nada. After driving it with the furnace "on" calling for heat, the water lines to the system were cold, indicating to me no hot engine coolant was going through the system. (The Hurricane unit was "off" and the heat exchanges were on. ) When I tried to ran the Hurricane, the only thing that ran was the water pump.

During my investigation, I removed the cover on the Hurricane furnace and it was in pieces. The air compressor pump's pipe was broken off. (Can't just be the broken plastic part on the pump) $450.00. I also read if you run the system dry you need to replace the water pump.... $?. So a problem with the furnace. But still, the system should work with engine heat alone.

Looking through the previous repairs records, I found a hand written note with "RV Furnace" "water Jacket" Parts $782, Installation $12,000. What I'm thinking is the water jacket on the engine failed and instead of fixing it, they bypassed the system.

So after this great tail of woe. Anybody provide any guidance in where to go from here.

1. With a labor rate that high, it sounds to me like you have to drop the engine to replace the "water jacket". If not that, what would cost that much labor hours to fix this problem. Maybe a major disassembly of the motor?

2. If that's the problem, can it be replace with the eng in place.

3. I was wondering. Can I make the Hurricane a separate system. It would not use engine heat during travel, but I don't intend to use it in very cold weather. And if it did need heat, it should turn on and provided what's needed. Will cost fuel but should work. What I need is to find a place to mount a water tank. I understand this is how it was done prior to being tied into the engine coolant system.

4. Maybe be time is invest in some small heater.

5 Thoughts recommendations

Thanks in advance

Frank
Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: fredward58 on September 28, 2017, 08:40:32 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112528 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112528)
I highly doubt you have to do anything with the engine. I'm not familiar with the Hurricanes but with a Hydro Hot or with a basic Webasto system, the engine coolant goes directly to the boiler and heats the water in the boiler instead of the diesel burner heating the water. Like a heat exchanger or in your case "water jacket". On a basic Webasto system the engine coolant and the hydronic heat coolant are one and the same; intermixed.

It's possible that the heat exchanger (water jacket) in the Hurricane has failed and was intermixing engine coolant with domestic hot water. Therefore they may have bypassed it which is why you feel cold pipes. Either way you might be looking at some Hurricane parts; not engine parts.

Just my .02 worth.
Fred
Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: Ray on September 28, 2017, 08:53:22 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112529 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112529)
Agreed, if it was engine water jacket the engine would be toast.

Still not sure why the labor estimate was so high though.

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Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: FJZ on September 28, 2017, 09:44:46 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112530 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112530)
If there was engine coolent going into the water heater, it seems to me the solution would be to bypass the water heater and not the whole system. For some reason, the engine to hydroponics system was deactivated. Why, that is the question.
Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: Danny Knight on September 28, 2017, 10:24:49 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112531 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112531)
What model of hurricane Heater do you have?

Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: Vince SNET on September 28, 2017, 10:59:38 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112532 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112532)
Theses are the people that made the furnace Frank.
http://itrheat.com/products/marin-heating-systems/ (http://itrheat.com/products/marin-heating-systems/)

5305 NE 121st Ave, Suite 401 Vancouver, WA 98682

Telephone: (360) 993-4877 (https://www.countrycoachforums.com/)

They offer a rebuilt unit for about 2,800. You can send them yours and they will go through it make new again.

Vince
02 Intrigue # 11332

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Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: Ray on September 28, 2017, 11:05:06 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112533 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112533)
That is what the system is a water heater. It uses hot water for your room heat and to heat water for hot water system.

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Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: Frank Zandome on September 29, 2017, 12:02:56 am
Yahoo Message Number: 112534 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112534)
Vince I might try that after I find out why the engine is not heating the system. It should when the hurricane heater in off or inoperative. Somebody did something to take the system "off line" for some reason. Once I fix that problem, I'll tackle the heater itself. Otherwise I'm putting the cart before the horse.

Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: Herb Strandberg on September 29, 2017, 12:46:18 am
Yahoo Message Number: 112535 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112535)
Are there any stuck check valves in this type of hot water system that a wack with a hammer might free up.

Herb
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Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: FJZ on September 29, 2017, 07:55:35 am
Yahoo Message Number: 112536 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112536)
I tried to stick my head into the engine compartment to see where the water lines from the heater went into the engine (They are a unique color) but I could not see them. Also a light cover of road dirt and oil on everything. Will have to crawl under the motor area and see if I can trace it that way. That stuff is easy to do for a young man, Hard on us "old guys". LOL

(In that vain, climbing the ladder five or six times a day while working on the roof was a real treat.)

Frank
Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: Ray on September 29, 2017, 12:10:16 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112548 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112548)
Think of it this way Frank the work on the roof got rid of the need for a stair step machine to keep your heart in shape!

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Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: Jim Lewis on September 29, 2017, 12:55:20 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112550 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112550)
Ok so I guess I should jump
Title: Re: Major problem with Hurricane Furnace.
Post by: Dick May on September 29, 2017, 04:03:51 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 112553 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/112553)
Frank,

I have 2002 Intrigue (I assume yours is an Intrigue, also. If not, let me know so I can shut up). I have dealt with my Hurricane since new.

I would suggest that you call Kevin Waite, 541-953-6162. He can set you on the right path. If you need some more info from someone with little expertise but lots of experience, send me a private message and we can talk.

Dick May
2002 Intrigue, #11438

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