Yahoo Message Number: 113048 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113048)
Just wondering what all you wonderful Country Coach owners are getting for mileage? We just took our first trip from Phoenix to Austin and we were only getting 5 mpg. Our motorhome is 40' diesel pusher but expected a little better mileage. We did fight with wind on one of the days traveling. Appreciate any feedback. Thank you, Vicki
Yahoo Message Number: 113050 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113050)
We get about 5 mpg with a Chevy Silverado in tow. I'm not conservative on interstate. If the speed limit is 70 the cruise is set on 72. We also run the genny with A/C's running if it's really hot out.
Britt
2004 Intrigue 11836
Yahoo Message Number: 113051 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113051)
I usually get between 6.5 to 7.2 depending on terrain unless I hit a big bead wind. Speed is typically 62-65 on a 40 Inspire with a C-9. Also have a chip set on the first setting which I believe is 10%
Mike
2006 Inspire #51808
2016 Jeep Wrangler unlimited
Yahoo Message Number: 113053 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113053)
Cummins told me this fall that my mileage for 71,000 miles was 7.2. 06 intrigue 12047
400 hp bob bozich
Yahoo Message Number: 113055 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113055)
We get 6.5 to 7.0 mpg depending on conditions. I drive about 65 mph on interstate. I also have the wax valve which helps a little. It is a 2006 Magna towing a Jeep GC so we are pretty heavy, 47K lbs fully loaded.
Greg
06 Magna
Yahoo Message Number: 113057 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113057)
Greg, just curious, what is a wax valve?
Dave 04 intrigue 11793
Towing 07 Lexus470 getting 6.5-7 mpg traveling 62-65 mph.
Yahoo Message Number: 113058 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113058)
2002 Magna 40 tag axle towing a 2006 Explorer. About 44-45,000 lbs. 1600 mile trip PA to TN. 8.2 mpg down and 7.3 coming back running genset and hurricane heater on the way back. Running about 65 average mph. C12 cat 505 hp.
Yahoo Message Number: 113060 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113060)
Vicki,
We just completed a 6,100 mile trip from Dallas throughout New England & Canada.
We averaged right at 7 MPG, we tow a Ford Explorer.
We may have similar coaches.
RJ 2005 Inspire #51264
Yahoo Message Number: 113061 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113061)
The wax valve replaces the Sauer Danfoss fan control system, which is complicated and problematic. The wax valve is a much simpler system, coach never overheats, get improved mileage. Eric Olstrom installed it a couple years ago, it's a great mod.
Greg
06 Magna
Yahoo Message Number: 113062 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113062)
I also have the wax valve. Average is 7.5+/- depending on conditions, running mostly at 61 MPH. Can I assume you all get you MGP off the SilverLeaf? That figure only reports diesel used by the engine so not genset, etc. included. I also use the SilverLeaf to monitor the fuel tank gallons used since the last fill, usually comes within 1 gallon of what we take on when we fuel up (when the genset isn't running).
Lee Zaborowski
07 Intrigue + Ford Edge.
Yahoo Message Number: 113063 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113063)
Pencil and paper mileage over the last 16,735 miles is 6.8 mpg. That includes all diesel fuel consumption by the engine, Hurricane, and generator. Going down the road we're usually around 48,000 pounds which includes a 4,700 pound toad. We have a 2002 Affinity, 42' long, with tag, and a C12 505 HP CAT engine.
I think the computer says the mileage is somewhere between 7.0 and 7.2.
HTH,
Dave M. 2002 Affinity #6103
Yahoo Message Number: 113064 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113064)
So you've got about 0.2-0.4 going to Hurricane, and generator, eh?
Lee
Yahoo Message Number: 113065 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113065)
I traveled full time for 9-1/2 years. Kept track of each fuel stop on an Excel spread sheet mileage I logged the amount of fuel per fill up, cost per gallon per fill up, avg. mpg per fill up, avg mpg for aggregate miles traveled, and location of each fill up. My entire mpg was 7.02 mpg. I had a 40" 2005 Inspire with 400 CAT. and towed a AWD Saturn Vue. Traveled over 60,000 miles.
Jock Vargo
Yahoo Message Number: 113072 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113072)
In my initial few trips in our 42' Lexa with the Cat 515hp C15, I've averaged right around 5mpg. However, I've noticed excessive black smoke which led me to find a leak in the charge air cooler. Having this repaired now and hoping for not only better performance, but hoping for better mileage as well. All mileage factored while towing a 14' Wrangler unlimited and using the genset as needed.
Corey Graham
2003 Lexa Alexandria 42' #6157
Prosper TX
Yahoo Message Number: 113080 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113080)
I just put 5000 miles on my first trip pulling a Ford F 150 and got 7.5 mpg in my 2001 Affinity with a Cat C-12.
Yahoo Message Number: 113095 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113095)
That's the implication. I have no practical way to measure exactly how much fuel the Hurricane and generator use independently of the engine.
Given that, I divide miles traveled by fuel pumped into the tank and make no allowance for Hurricane, generator, or "idling".
For the first 57,451 miles of the coach's life the Caterpillar ECM said it got 6.96 MPG.
At this point it's all hair splitting. I'm happy to know that it gets something close to 7 mpg and continue to record every mile and every gallon so that if something starts to go awry, I may get a bit of advanced warning.
FWIW,
Dave M. 2002 Affinity #6103
Yahoo Message Number: 113105 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113105)
Usually going east from El Paso on I-10 and then going thru Fredericksburg to Austin we average between 8.2 and 8.4 mpg traveling at 67 mph. Pushing over 72 takes us down to right at 8 mpg. Now traveling west is any ones guess do to the prevailing winds. I dropped down to as low as 7.5 mpg at 72 to as high as 8,2 at 67 mph. If the wind is really bad I can drive 55 and still only achieve in the high 7 range. We pulled a Honda Odyssey for 8 years and then a CR-v. Saving about 1000 lbs gave us about 3 to 4 tenths mpg.
Sounds to me like you have a Catepillar 500 hp engine. To be specific the older C-12. But with the high serial number you might have a C-13, either way you have an engine that loves fuel. But you should be getting in the low 7's middle 6's so I think you have a real issue. As a guess I would say you have a bad charge air radiator or need your valves adjusted. I had a faulty injection pump, which caused me performance issues not so much milage issues with my Cummins in 2010. TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731
Yahoo Message Number: 113106 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113106)
I do have the big Cat, C13, 525hp. I've had the overhead done and the CAC pressure checked. At the last service the Cat folks said everything was good.
Britt
2004 Intrigue 11836
Yahoo Message Number: 113107 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113107)
We usually get 6.8 - 7.8 on flat highways below 5,000 feet. At altitude or climbing or on really hot days where we can't develop full boost, our mileage goes down. Engine and tow configuration below.
Jim and Jona Seifert
2007 Country Coach Intrigue Ovation 530 42'
Coach #12150
525 Cat C13 Allison 6spd
Toads: 2014 Ford F150 / 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser w/ REMCO DS Disconnect.
Airforce 1 Brake system
Blue Ox Aventa II Towbar
Yahoo Message Number: 113049 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113049)
Just wondering what all of you wonderful Country Coach owners are averaging for mpg? We took our 1st trip from Phoenix to Austin with our 40' diesel pusher without any toads, and only averaged 5-5.8 mpg. This was disappointing and expensive. We did run into some winds but still expected better mileage. Would appreciate any feedback/suggestions.
Thank you so much,
Vicki
Yahoo Message Number: 113052 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113052)
Having driven 90K so far on our 42ft w/400ISL, I saw a marked increase in mileage when we bought a toad with a max tow speed of 65 mph. We had thought 6.3 was normal, but always drove at 70+ with Wranglers. Now consistent 7.8+ on long trips with relatively few large mountains, and cruise set at 60. Headwinds are always a factor as well. Safe travels.
Jeff Thurston
2003 Intrigue 42ft Ovation
11630
Yahoo Message Number: 113054 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113054)
We took a 13,300 mile trip recently with our 45 ft. '09 Allure Crane Prairie from Southern California to Maine and got 7.2! Ran the gen and Hydro Hot quite a bit as well. We love our ISM 500 Cummins! We also had a '15 Jeep Grand Cherokee in tow.
Dennis
Yahoo Message Number: 113056 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113056)
Vickie.........It's impossible for anyone to address your question because no one knows what brand, model or HP displacement you're talking about. I get between 9-10 MPG with my coach.
Dave Trotter
'01 Intrigue
Cummins ISC 8.3L 350 HP
Yahoo Message Number: 113066 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113066)
We took a 10,500 mile trip from California to Washington DC then down to Key West and back in our 2007 Intrigue with Cat C13 525 hp towing a 2005 Honda Accord averaged 7.53 mpg. I try to keep speed at 60 mph
Yahoo Message Number: 113067 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113067)
We have found it important to watch things on our Silverleaf closely. Cruising at 60 mph will do much better than running 70. Each engine/ coach combo has a sweet spot. Our 40' Intrigue (48,000 lb with ISM 500 seems to do best 1400-1600 RPM's making
Coriwelsh
Intrigue 12314
Yahoo Message Number: 113070 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113070)
I get a very consistent 8.0-8.5 MPG, doesn't seem to matter if I am in mountains or flat terrain, towing the Jeep or not. Although I rarely exceed 65 MPH, I did push it to 70 across South Dakota this past summer but MPG stayed the same. Mine is a Cummins 325 HP, and I replaced the turbo & exhaust brake & exhaust manifold when I got it about 4 years ago.
Mark M
1998 Intrigue #10661
Yahoo Message Number: 113075 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113075)
My Silverleaf says overall mileage for some 90,000 miles has been about 7.2. 40' Allure tag axle, Cat C-9 pulling a tiny Fiat 500 toad. I've been seeing between 7 and 8 on our trips the last 12,000 miles since we bought it so that seems appropriate.
Don Hutchins
Yahoo Message Number: 113076 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113076)
What speed do you run ?
#5851
Yahoo Message Number: 113077 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113077)
04 Allure 40' Tag, with CRV toad. This is a CAPS era ISL370(Now 400).
Other then in California, we usually maintain 62-64MPH when on a non long day of travel. (Which is about 75% of the time now. If we have a long days travel (Which to us is now 5 1/2 hours or more.), and of course id driving conditions allow, I'll bump the speed up to 65-68MPH range. In California, we usually travel at 60-62MPH, depending upon how many large trucks we have running up our back end:)!.
I had a combo of things going on about two years ago:
-Source Engineering Wax Valve
-ISL had to be reprogrammed, and this time it was with an South American Cummins 400 Program, vs the North American. (Long story, and it is what it is.) I confirmed with the tech, that though 400HP for both programs, but the South American had different curves for HP/Torque then the North American. (HP/Torque came in at lower RPM's, and stated flatter until it reached closer to peak RPM's for both values.)
-Added FASS Fuel Pump, bypassing the Lift Pump, and always feeding positive PSI to the CAPS
-Shifted tires from Michelin XZE* 12R's, to 295/80 Michelin XZA2's
-The coach turned over the 40-45K mark (Now at 65K)
Not sure which of the combinations above, if any, or if it was just the engine finally breaking in. But our MPG over the last say 18-24 months of travel - has moved up to the 7.9 MPG total history. And by math, taking into consideration adjustments for generator hours and HydroHot, we've been between 8.0-8.3MPG. (Wind, mountains, traffic variations, speed, probably accounting for these minor variations.
And none of this really matters to us, as we're going to ravel, and even when we had lower 6.7-7.0MPG travels in earlier years - we were still going to be on the same roadways and trip. Cost of fuel has been a relatively minor cost in the overall ownership of our rig:)!
Best to all,
Smitty
04 Allure 31017
Yahoo Message Number: 113079 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113079)
Instead of a brick I more relate ours to a refrigerator. :D our c-15 with 84,000 on it according to Silver leaf is averaging 6.7. Of course we have our HD trike on a lift on the coach and we tow a Fiat 500 Abarth. Makes us total of about 4500 lbs in added junk to carry and drag. I've always said if you have to worry about mpg don't buy a motorhome. Can I hear an AMEN.
Yahoo Message Number: 113081 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113081)
Our '93 Magna, 36 footer with a Cummins 8.3 turbo with 5-speed Allison gets on average, 11 mpg. Typical touring, sweet spot speed of 65 mph, RPM at about 1800. Coach weighs in at approx 26,000 lbs with what we carry. Not bad for Maggie Magna.
Marie Slagle
5011 Magna
Yahoo Message Number: 113092 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113092)
Best reason to track mileage is to notice something is wrong. Mileage suddenly drops and can't be accounted for, hils, wind high genset use etc then look for issue.
Ray
Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
Yahoo Message Number: 113094 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113094)
Just a gentle reminder to all that in California the legal speed when towing, for any vehicle, is 55MPH. That is one reason you don't often see tractor/trailer outfits doing more than 62-63.
My cruise control is set at 62MPH. My coach is 33' and we tow a Honda Fit. We average pretty close to 8MPG. Diesel just went up $0.20 here (it's about time, the roads here are a mess), and economical is better than hurry.
Ken #31035
Yahoo Message Number: 113098 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113098)
A big one!
Yahoo Message Number: 113102 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113102)
Too bad none of the additional gas tax is for road repair. Probably for Moonbeams train. 30% is for anything
Mike
2006 Inspire
Yahoo Message Number: 113103 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113103)
Amen to Gary Glenn. My sentiments exactly. It does tick me off when the wind is in my face, day after day. That's the price you pay for a wonderful life on the road.
Brett
08 Allure 470 CP
#31665
Yahoo Message Number: 113104 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/113104)
All of the tax increase is committed to road repair and modernization, bridge repair, transportation improvements and the like. Some of it may help defray the cost of the San Francisco Peninsula commute service electrification. There will also likely be improvements to the ever-expanding inter-city rail network in the State. It is all much overdue.
Ken, #31035