Yahoo Message Number: 117499 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117499)
OK I am tired of both Norcold and Amish cooling units, Installed an Amish unit 6 years ago after the Norcold quit and now that has failed, so I need to find a Residential Fridge that will fit the hole and keep the 2 drawers under the fridge, Has anyone installed a residential unit and been able kept the 2 drawers. If so what is the make and model number. My coach is an 04 Inspire, but rock solid dependable, still looks and runs great, Thanx
Jerry
2004 Inspire 51012.
Yahoo Message Number: 117500 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117500)
If you go to the photo section and type in Samsung it will show pictures and model number of my installation in my Inspire.
Gary Christensen
2006 Inspire 51537
Yahoo Message Number: 117502 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117502)
Did this many years ago.
Bob Vinson & Kevin Waite did it in Junction City.
Samsung RF197. 32" w. X 70" t.
Sticks out few inches. We left our drawers in place. Need step stool for highest Refir shelves. Love it.....
Kent. 05 Allure. 31281
Yahoo Message Number: 117506 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117506)
I don't think there are any refers with the interior capacity that will fit without losing the two drawers. They are just too tall. Did you consider changing to the Danfoss compressor system? Then you have the benefits of residential with the carcass that fits. About $1200 if they install it or $900 if you do it yourself. Located in Indiana. https://vimeo.com/207702115 (https://vimeo.com/207702115) Nice people and takes about 3 hours if they do it.
Yahoo Message Number: 117507 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117507)
I presume you must run gen when traveling?
Yahoo Message Number: 117508 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117508)
Hi Jerry,
We have emailed before I had the 2004 Inspire 51010. I replaced my nocold with a Samsung without any difficulty. As we drive the batteries and inverter handle the electric load from the Samsung. The engine keeps the batteries fully charged no need to run the generator.
Walt Leutwyler
Multinational Sales and Marketing LLC
Texas ⭐️Strong
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Yahoo Message Number: 117509 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117509)
We had OMC install the Samsung model 19.7 .lost bottom two drawers Mot a major issue with is or leave on but need stool to get a top
Runs off inverter
Rich@ Jan
2005 inspire
Yahoo Message Number: 117516 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117516)
I switched out our old Norcold 1200 with a Fisher Paykal RF 170 with water in the door. In my opinion the FP frig looks more RV like than the Samsung. Cost a little more but but nothing is to good for my dream home. I got rid of the drawers. One drawer had spices in it so I built a spice rack for them and my other drawer was a junk drawer. For that I but in sound bars for my TVs and pulled out my receiver that wasn't needed and use a basket for my junk dawer where the receiver was. All is good
Craig Hovda
2005 Allure 470
37' with tag
Yahoo Message Number: 117517 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117517)
Thank Craig, for your reply and info.
Jerry
2004 Inspire 51012
Yahoo Message Number: 117518 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117518)
It is very disappointing to me to see that RV manufactures are still installing the fire hazard Norcold 1200 in their new units.
Walt Leutwyler
Multinational Sales and Marketing LLC
Texas ⭐️Strong
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Yahoo Message Number: 117519 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117519)
Ye, me too, they didn't earn anything.
Yahoo Message Number: 117520 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117520)
Craig,
Did you bring the fridge through the door?
Larry
Yahoo Message Number: 117521 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117521)
This is what OMC did in our 07 Allure 40' Hood River, took out the A slide window.
Yahoo Message Number: 117522 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117522)
Nice, professional installation, looks great, thanx
Yahoo Message Number: 117523 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117523)
Shall I assume the residential frig is plugged into a circuit on the inverter?
What kind of challenges are expected with a residential frig vibrating down the highway?
Marie Slagle
2003 Intrigue
Yahoo Message Number: 117524 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117524)
The frig came threw the drivers side window
Craig Hovda
2005 Allure 37'
Yahoo Message Number: 117525 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117525)
I have a friend that installed a residential unit and ran it on th inverter while on the road with no problem, vibrations going to happen no matter what unit is installed at this point with 2 fridge failures, I will go with the residential unit, a lot of motorhome makers are now installing residential units. I feel I have dodged the fire bullet twice.
Yahoo Message Number: 117526 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117526)
Hi, Jerry i used a 14 cu ft frigidaire only had to cut 1[2 inch from top of cabnet works great .it will be the best up grade ever done Charles, call me for more info if you want, were in nc 828 2736099 2000 magna,
Yahoo Message Number: 117527 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117527)
We have no issues with the Samsung and travel.
Been on 2 long trips: Alaska & Prince Edward Island / Nova Scotia.
Never had a problem with the Samsung.
Did upgrade to 3000 watt pure sine wave Magnum inverter, added two more 6 volt batteries and have 4 solar panels supplying 560 watts.
Samsung very efficient.
Kent 05 Allure
Yahoo Message Number: 117530 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117530)
We replaced our Norcold 1200 with the Samsung RF18, which is the newer version of the RF197 (new model is the same box just some tweaks to the unit to correct some minor issues). We left the drawers and love the fridge. You will have to change the power supply to the inverter side of the breaker panel to make it work. All works well and the alternator makes plenty of power to keep the fridge running and the batteries charged going down the road.
I recently helped a friend change out his Norcold 1200, he used the Whirlpool linked below. I believe I would go with the Whirlpool if I was changing today, because I like the side by side configuration with the water and ice in the door.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/whirlpool-21-4-cu-ft-side-by-side-refrigerator-monochromatic-stainless-steel/6076924.p?skuId=6076924
Dale Collier
2005 Inspire 51477
Yahoo Message Number: 117531 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117531)
Thanks for the super info, what power supply did you change
Jerry
2004 Inspire 51012
Yahoo Message Number: 117532 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117532)
Great info thanx .
Jerry
2004 Inspire 51012
Yahoo Message Number: 117533 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117533)
I'm not sure I"m answering on the right spot here, but when we had our Samsung RF installed a few years ago, it did come in through our door.
Mary Frederick
06 Inspire 51784
Yahoo Message Number: 117534 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117534)
X2
Wally & Elta Mae
2007Allure 470 Sunset Bay #31535
Yahoo Message Number: 117535 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117535)
Thanks that's good to know also, I figured I could take to fridge doors off and get it through the door I ve always been thankful for the big entry door.
Jerry
2004 Inspire 51012
Yahoo Message Number: 117537 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117537)
Refir circut moved to inverter side in panel.
Replaced Xantrex inverter with pure sine wave Magnum 3000 watt.
Installed .6 Lifeline 6 volt batteries
Installed 4 solar panels providing 560 watts. Outback mppt charge controller.
Yahoo Message Number: 117539 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117539)
There are two sections in the breaker panel, one section is shore power only and the other section is fed by both the inverter and shore power. If you want to power the fridge with the inverter you will have to move the feed to the inverter section of the panel. Be sure to move both the hot and neutral wires for things to work correctly. The microwave is in the inverter section, as an aid to finding the correct spot.
The fridge came through the door (actually both did) with relative ease with the doors removed. It took a little carpentry work to make the fridge fit the hole. I also sealed
of the vents to the outside needed by the LPG powered Norcold.
Dale Collier
2005 Inspire 51477
Yahoo Message Number: 117540 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117540)
I've been following this thread for some time now and felt I needed to comment. I changed our 2002 Magna Norcold fridge to a Haier apartment size fridge about 2 1/2 years ago. Everything worked well until this past fall the fridge failed. I was laid up with healing injuries and my son found all the food spoiled and smelly. So I installed a new fridge this spring. I had ordered a new inverter last fall but shortly thereafter was in a tragic MVA where we were hit head on and my wife died as a result. So this spring I did some research and discovered that many newer fridges have electronic controls and/or variable speed compressors which do not like modified sine inverters. (Which I had bought a pure sine wave for the fridge and a planned cpap machine). So, my suggestion is to do your research before converting and make sure you have the proper inverter to run your new residential fridge. While mine worked well while it worked, it did not last very long and ended up ruined. Have good travels, Rick (now traveling alone)
Yahoo Message Number: 117542 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117542)
Thank you Rick for all the valuable information, please accept my heartfelt sorrow for you loss and hope your healing well
and continue . I am taking all the CCers advice and comments to insure a good installation, my best to you and thanks
Jerry
2004 Inspire 51012
Yahoo Message Number: 117546 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117546)
We used the Whirlpool on the advice of a friend that owned an appliance service business that services them all. His comments were, "the Samsung is very nice and are spot on with temperature, but they can be subject to trouble with voltage fluctuations and parts are more expensive and not always readily available - I would use a Whirlpool."
/Mike St John
Former 2005 Magna owner
Yahoo Message Number: 117551 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117551)
The Whirlpool linked above and the Samsung units are both DC powered units. Thus, they don't care about the waveform shape of the inverter, the power is rectified back into 12 VDC before being used by the fridge. This is not true for many refrigerators that are AC powered units, which will not play nicely with the original MSW inverters.
Dale Collier
2005 Inspire 51477
Yahoo Message Number: 117552 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117552)
My seventeen-year-old Dometic 1492 is still silently purring along, hard ice cream and 37 in the fridge, but who knows... As I read all these conversion discussions where you discuss rewiring the AC through the inverter, I have a question: My Magna has two electrical outlets the fridge; one for the fridge heaters and the other for the ice maker. The ice maker outlet comes off of the inverter. If I were to put a residential fridge in, why not just plug it into that outlet for the ice maker? Why all of this discussion of rewiring at the breaker panel? Or don't most of your CC's have a similar setup with the AC outlets for the fridge and ice maker?
Rich 2002
Yahoo Message Number: 117553 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117553)
Exactly Rich, the Inspires don't have the outlet with both power sources. I'm not sure which models do and don't.
Dale