Yahoo Message Number: 117923 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117923)
Greetings all,
My sweet lady Allure is beached in my yard and its just awful to see!
Alas, I put the ignition key in and turn it and its absolutely dead.
My first inclination is to makes sure the issue is not a bad chassis battery.
My understanding is that the prior owner replaced all batteries, the Chassis battery and two house AGM LifeLine batteries, about a year or two before I purchased the coach and I've had the coach about six years now so my batteries are probably around seven or eight years old. Might this be their normal life expectancy???
This is why I'd like to rule out the chassis battery first, so I'm looking to test it out.
From what I understand, one way to test the battery is with a dc volt meter and I'm prepared to do this.
However, I'm running into some conflicting information exactly as to how to do this.
I've read that you can do it with either shore power connected, or disconnected. Disconnected seems to make more sense to me, but again, I'm not sure.
I've also read that you should either completely disconnect both post terminals, or just the negative terminal, or neither terminal.
If it is true that I must disconnect any of the chassis battery terminals, I'm running into a bit of a problem because the house batteries are connected to the chassis battery and I'm fearful of the possibility of doing some sort of electrical harm to the coach.
The direction for testing that I'm presently leaning in that I'm not sure about is as follows:
- Turning off the coach main power breaker.
- Disconnecting from shore power.
- Disconnect just the negative terminal of the chassis battery (this means also removing just the negative portion of the house battery connection as well I suppose).
- Applying the DC volt meter probes to the posts and looking for something above 12.5 I believe??
I've attached a picture of my battery bay set-up to hopefully aid clarification.
I've also attached an image for a bit of a side-question.
Hopefully the image will speak for itself, but incase it doesn't, the rubber ceiling lining in the middle of the bay is hanging half-way off.
I'm wondering if anyone might know what is the best, or proper type of adhesive to use for this application?
As always, eternal thanks be to the "collective consciousness" for any and all help! :).
-Luke
Yahoo Message Number: 117924 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117924)
Disconnect from shore power. Measure the voltage with a voltmeter across the positive and negative poles of the battery. Should read greater than 12.5V. If these batteries have not been charging during the storage they are probably bad.
Mark
Yahoo Message Number: 117925 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117925)
Has your coach been plugged into shore power while sitting? If not how long has it been disconnected from shower power?
Start with what Mark says and get back with you voltage readings. Do both sets of batteries.
Yahoo Message Number: 117926 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117926)
A light tap on the starter solenoid with a wrench or hammer might produce simple fix. In my 2002 Intrigue that solenoid is in the engine bay on the right side on wall housing the battery compartment. This has saved me twice.
John Coleman
'02 36' Intrigue #11416
Yahoo Message Number: 117927 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117927)
Hi Mark,
Thanks a ton for the help!
The coach has been plugged in during storage. Either 30 or 50 amp.
OK, disconnect from shore power it is.
However, just to be clear... I'm NOT to disconnect anything?
Is this right?
Yahoo Message Number: 117929 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117929)
Hi pfhays2000,
And thank you so much for your help.
Yes, coach pretty much always plugged in to either 30 or 50 amp shore.
She's on 50 amp now and has been since the end of April.
By both sets of batteries, do you mean touch probes to chassis battery and then each AGM house battery separately?
Or just the chassis battery, and then to just one of the two AGMs for a reading of the two AGMs as a set??
I'm very sorry, I'm not exactly clear on what you mean by "both sets" :(.
Thank you very much again.
Yahoo Message Number: 117930 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117930)
Hi John,
Thank you for the input!
OK, so once I locate this starter solenoid I'll tap it.
Does the tap have to happen while someone else is trying to start the coach?
Or can you tap and then start?
And if this works does it mean I have a starter solenoid problem? Or what might it mean??
Thanks so much again.
Cheers,
-Luke
Yahoo Message Number: 117931 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117931)
One person task. I'm the wrong person to describe how that solenoid works, but I understand the inside of solenoid can get get rust or corrosion or something that prevents the moving parts inside the solenoid from connecting when the ignition key sends power to the solenoid. A gentle tap can loosen those internal parts so they freely move, thereby completing the circuit and sending power to the starter the next time you turn ignition key.
If the engine starts after tapping the solenoid you'll probably ought to replace it. That said, when I bought my coach in 2013 the prior owner told me he encountered the problem once and tapped the solenoid... would've been about 2011. So happened that summer 2017 I turned the ignition key and nothing happened. Remembering other discussions on this forum and from what prior owner told me, I tapped that solenoid just once and sure enough it started up. I haven't replaced it and haven't encountered the problem since. I've now put solenoid replacement on the top of my punch list.
Yahoo Message Number: 117932 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117932)
Just a Note!
Do not disconnect battery either set with shore power connected , as it will take out the echo charger if the inverter charger on !!
Yahoo Message Number: 117933 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117933)
Mark, let's do two checks. First, does your transmission pad light up when you turn the ignition on? Since your coach is different than mine it may be wired differently. I assume you have a fuse panel in the compartment under the driver's seat. Look at that fuse panel and see if the lights beside the fuses on the row nearest you are lit while the ignition switch is turned on. These fuse circuits will be activated when the key is turned on if things are okay with your ignition circuit. Dead house batteries will also fail to activate the ignition circuit so go ahead and check the battery voltages.
Given the way your batteries are connected, test the voltage on each set of batteries by putting a probe on one of the positive terminals of the chassis batteries and putting the other probe on one of the negative terminals of the chassis batteries. Do not be connected to shore power at this time. Do the same on the house batteries. Since each set of batteries are connected in parallel you can't get individual battery voltage without disconnecting wires. No need to do that right now.
Plug the coach back into shore power and do the same measurements.
You are trying to determine if your batteries are being charged while plugged into shore power. I assume you have your charger turned on while being plugged into shore power and you didn't accidentally turn it off. If your charger is turned off plug back into shore power, turn on the charger and wait until the batteries are charged before trying to start the coach.
If the house batteries show voltage above 12 volts, try starting the coach by using the boost switch inside your coach. You can leave your coach plugged in while trying to use the boost switch. I have no idea where your boost switch is located but it will be labelled. On my coach it is in the small console under the driver's side window. Hold the boost switch on for about 20 seconds and while still holding the boost switch on try starting the coach. Take notice of the transmission pad while trying to start the coach and see if it lights up.
Come back with your results.
pete
2000 Magna CAT C-10, #5892
Yahoo Message Number: 117936 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117936)
Very possible that at age 7-8, the Chassis Battery could be ready for replacement. If your test shows a good voltage, then another tip is to for now, just loosen and twist back and forth the battery cable connections on the posts - this will make sure you have good contacts. Retighten, and then again try your starting of the coach. Another area that I do a yearly maintenance on, is the ground. Follow your negative cable off of the chassis, and see where it connects to the ground. Same thing can be done here too, loosen the bolt/nut, and twist back and forth a bit on the connection wires end. Tighten, and try again to restart the coach. I also followed the Positive cable feed from Chassis to Starter, and cleaned all of the connection to the starter too.
If that is it, and it fires up. Then go into a deep cleaning on the cable connects, and apply protective coat over them. (Be sure all power to the coach is off. Turn off inverter. Before doing this deep cleaning.
Only reason I say to just do the light loosen and twisting technique at fist, is if the battery is bad, it will need to be replaced. And normally the cleaning of the connections and posts to get the shine of the metal, would happen then.
This may not sound like it's a good thing, but to me, I hope it's a simple faded, or fading, Chassis Battery that needs replacement!
Best of luck to you,
Smitty
04 Allure 31017
Yahoo Message Number: 117937 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117937)
Wow, that's quite a story.
Seems like such a simple thing that has the potential to cause some big problems.
I am going to look into it.
If anything is worthy of reporting back here, I will do so.
Thanks a ton for this.
Yahoo Message Number: 117938 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117938)
Wow!
OK
THANK YOU!!
Yahoo Message Number: 117939 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117939)
Thanks a ton Smitty for this information and advice!!!!
I do have some outstanding questions however about how to properly do the actual testing that I outlined in my original post.
Might you be able to speak to any of these things? :)
Yahoo Message Number: 117940 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117940)
Just want to say that I figured out how to test and I posted my results in my response to Pete.
Thanks again for all your help!
Yahoo Message Number: 117942 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117942)
Pete,
I'd first like to give a huge debt of gratitude for your kindness and help.
"does your transmission pad light up when you turn the ignition on?"
Wow, where do I start...
I turned the ignition key and heard sounds and saw sights that I'd never experienced before.
There where two sounds that I can tell. The first, a sort of loud "winding sound" coming from somewhere under the dashboard. It sort of sounded like the loud whizzing sound I hear when my AC blower is on full speed, as the fan at that speed sounds like its rubbing on something.
The second sound, sounded like another loud periodic sound, but it was a loud "clicking" sound that felt like something sort of under the driver's side.
Well, as I was freaking out a bit with all the new sights and sounds, I did happen to have the presence of mind to check the the tranny pad display, and wouldn't you know it, it looked pretty strange too.
It looked like every area of it was lit and not just one particular symbol which looked really weird, almost like something you see on one of these tv shows about crashed alien space ships.
"Look at that fuse panel and see if the lights beside the fuses on the row nearest you are lit while the ignition switch is turned on. These fuse circuits will be activated when the key is turned on if things are okay with your ignition circuit."
While I found a couple of fuse boxes, they weren't under the driver's seat.
These guys are on the bottom-left floor area up against the left side of the coach, sort of adjacent to the steering column. Unfortunately, I did not have enough presence of mind with all the new found bells and whistles to crouch back down on the floor to check out the fuses. I just quickly shut it off not knowing if the whole coach was going to blow up or not.
Battery Test Results(V):
NOT plugged into shore
Chassis - Left Side: 10.68
House 1 - Middle: 12.57
House 2 - Right Side: 12.60
Plugged into shore
Chassis - Left Side: 13.03
House 1 - Middle: 13.48
House 2 - Right Side: 13.49
I do believe my charger is on as I do not recall ever turning it off. Plus, I've seen my batteries charge in the not too distant past.
Results of attempting start with boost switch:
I'm going to hold off on doing this until I hear back from you about the above.
In light of these things, I'm thinking perhaps a boost start might not be needed as It looks like the chassis battery is faulty no?
Yahoo Message Number: 117944 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117944)
The chassis battery, at 10.68 volts, is dead. Replace it and you'll have a better chance of starting the coach.
At rest the battery should be at least 12.6 volts.
Good luck.
George in Birmingham
'03 Magna 6298
Yahoo Message Number: 117950 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117950)
I think George has a good suggestion.
It appears from your original photo that the chassis battery has battery caps that allow you to add water if needed. Have you ever checked the water in that battery? If not, get in the habit to do it at least on a monthly basis on the new battery. As the generator needs to be run once a month, I run it if I haven't used it during the month and check the water level in all of my batteries on the first of the month. Makes it easy for this old mind to remember.
I believe what you saw on the transmission display may have been that all of the segments in the led display light up at the same time. That can happen with low voltage which you have with your current chassis battery.
What you have learned from your battery voltage readings is that you battery charger is working and the auxiliary charger, usually an Echo Charger, for the chassis battery is working.
If you get a new chassis battery and it solves your problem, please come back and let us know.
pete
2000 Magna CAT C-10, #5892
Yahoo Message Number: 117954 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117954)
Yeah I do check that battery water fairly often although not once a month and I think I've only ever had to had water to a cell or two a couple times over the years. The battery is an interstate battery and its been pretty solid for the six years I've owned it but I guess all good things must come to an end :).
I do very much intend on replacing the battery now thanks to your help in figuring out how to test it!
Should I just get another interstate? Or is there another brand that might be more preferable?
I will most definitely keep you all posted here.
You guys really are my life line as I basically inherited this coach and I'm sort of a "babe-in-the-woods" with it.
Thanks about 16 tons worth! lol
Yahoo Message Number: 117955 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117955)
Thanks a ton George.
I'm definitely going to replace it.
Its an interstate battery that, outside of only having to had add water to the couple of cells a few times over the past six years, has performed admirably.
Should I just get another one?
Or, is there another brand that might be more preferable to an interstate?
I will be keeping you guys posted as to my progress :).
Thanks a ton again!
Yahoo Message Number: 117956 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117956)
I would certainly invest in the Lifeline batteries.
2006 Magna 6622
Suffering from HOT BUNS IN AZ..
Gary Glenn
Bright Idea RV LED Lights
325-665-4993
Yahoo Message Number: 117957 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117957)
If going traditional wet cell check Sam's club or Costco. They generally have the best price on wet cells..
Ray
Yahoo Message Number: 117965 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117965)
So, as far as changing the battery out, I found this article online:
https://www.impactbattery.com/blog/2012/08/how-to-replace-your-rv-batteries/ (https://www.impactbattery.com/blog/2012/08/how-to-replace-your-rv-batteries/)
Now I was wondering... should I have the replacement battery on hand and ready-to-install as soon as I remove the old battery?
Or is ok to first take the old battery in to the dealer to get the core-charge credit and not have to make two trips, and let the wires hang out without a chassis battery attached.
Something about this option doesn't feel, or seem right but I thought I'd run it by you guys.
Thanks much again.
Yahoo Message Number: 117967 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117967)
Pictures of connections and plastic wire ties to keep speared and from grounding helps. And six years was a good run!
Robert Mcclernon
2000 Intrigue
Yahoo Message Number: 117968 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117968)
Taking the battery out and then getting a new one should not impact anything. Once the battery is out, whether it be for 10 minutes or 3 hours, doesn't change anything.
Tom
2007 Allure # 31570
'18 Silverado M&G Braking System
Yahoo Message Number: 117969 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117969)
Take the core with you
Yahoo Message Number: 117970 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117970)
I would have the new battery in hand having delivered the core all in one trip.
Before removing old battery be certain that you are unplugged/no generator or be careful to insulate the battery connections from the frame. If plugged in/generator running the battery charger will be running. Probably best to carefully insulate cable ends anyway as the echo charge device may be sending current to the battery.
Good luck
George in Birmingham
'03 Magna 6298
Yahoo Message Number: 117971 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117971)
OK guys,
Thank you again.
So I can just remove the battery according to the instructions on that website "how-to" and take it with me so I don't have to make two trips :)
Sounds good :)
I was just concerned about shorting something out.
Yahoo Message Number: 117972 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117972)
First turn off the battery disconnects on coach, our 2000 allure has two, just turn off each to be safe. Turn off or unplug shore power so nothing is charging anything.
Just un hook the negative first and don't tough positive terminal with wrench. If there are multiple cables, label them with black electric tape so they are known as grounds. Take pictures.
Remove positive cables or cable and use red electric tape to label positive or any red tape. Again just be in the habit of not touching the wrench to any post or ground, good habit here.
Remove battery.
Get a battery post cleaner and clean old terminals with wire brush.
Get new battery and clean new posts of new battery.
Optional step here and I learned this from my big truck mechanic and worked great for many years: Coat the posts and terminals with anti seize. You can get this at parts store. Keeps bolts from freezing and also keeps terminals from corroding.
Install new battery.
Install positive terminal first and properly tighten taking care to..... not touch the wrench to any metal surfaces even though the ground is unhooked, good habit here, safety first.
Install ground and tighten terminals: Note! Wear safety glasses as there can be a spark when you attach the ground, be prepared. Ours sparks a good spark and can be intimidating. Safety glasses are good in case of anything flying around..
Check terminals for proper tightness and cable placement and turn switches. Reference pics if needed.
Let us know.
Yahoo Message Number: 117973 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117973)
Hey Luke,
If your battery trays have any sort of rust/oxidation/funk due from the battery electrolyzing (or whatever its called), now would be a good time to use some baking soda and water to neutralize that mess and get it cleaned up. I think over time it makes a difference.
Some of the guys here can speak with a little more explanation of the process! I'm not a mechanic, but with Smitty & Greg looking over my shoulder, I'm a little more confident!
John
2003 Allure 370 ISL #30914
Yahoo Message Number: 117974 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117974)
Luke, when I did what you are going to do I marked each battery cable with that blue painting tape and gave each
Cable a number. Than I took a picture of the cable and where each went to be sure I hooked up correctly
Dave
2007 Allure 470 40' #31495
W/Tag
So. Cal Mountains and Henderson, Nev
Yahoo Message Number: 117975 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117975)
Hey John good point on cleaning trays. When I did our batteries a couple of years ago I took all of them out and cleaned and brushed down the rust. I then used a rust neutralizer which turns into a primer, rust converter it's called. Painted that on rusted areas. After drying a day then used two coats of oil based primer, rust olum, ha. Then put two or three coats of a rust olum gloss black. This was a nice job since batts were out. I also did underneath and various nooks etc.
Yahoo Message Number: 117980 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117980)
Words of wisdom.
thank you George :)
Yahoo Message Number: 117981 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117981)
Thanks John!
Will definitely do!!
Yahoo Message Number: 117984 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117984)
Great idea!
Thank you Dave!
Yahoo Message Number: 117985 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117985)
Wow... are you available for hire?? (https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fok%2Fu%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Femoticons%2Femo1.gif&t=1571232163&sig=ImFExK.7u9Txa3nwqIE7aQ--~E)
Yahoo Message Number: 117986 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117986)
Wow... thank you for this info.
A few quick questions:
- I have four solar panels on the roof that are probably going to be charging even if unplugged from shore. Is this a problem? If so, what should/could I do to address it?
- Am I correct in my understanding that I only need to remove the chassis battery terminal cables? Or do I have to remove all battery cables?
- Regarding the anti-zeise, there are different 'bases' of the lubricant such as nickel, copper, aluminum, ceramic, etc. Is there a specific one I should use or will any of them work?
Thanks a ton again!
Yahoo Message Number: 117987 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117987)
Thank you Smitty,
I hope that's the only problem too!
Yahoo Message Number: 117988 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117988)
Yeah, I have four solar panels on roof so they're probably sending power in also.
Insulating just sounds like the right thing to do in any event.
Insulate with like some cloth rags or something?
Yahoo Message Number: 117989 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117989)
There should be a inline fuse in the solar panel line attached to the
batteries.?? I recommend you remove it until the install is complete.
--
Gaylord Coston
2007 Inspire 360
52037
717-805-3400
Yahoo Message Number: 117990 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117990)
Gotcha Dave.
Great idea!
Thank you!
Yahoo Message Number: 117991 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117991)
Thanks much Gaylord
I'll check that.
Yahoo Message Number: 117996 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117996)
Quick Update: I'm presently putting an Amazon order together for the necessary supplies and I have a question...
JNat_98 mentioned that I use "anti seize" on the terminals and connectors.
As I looked to purchase this I discovered that there exists a few different kinds, or types of this compound.
Might JNat_98 or anyone else know if there is a particular type of this anti seize that should be used over the others? Or will any of them work ok?
Thanks a million to all again.
-Luke
Yahoo Message Number: 117997 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117997)
Different types here: Amazon.com : anti seize (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=anti+seize&linkCode=ll2&tag=countrycoach-20&linkId=46f28f463c97775f78323d9d5c51ca5a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)
Yahoo Message Number: 118002 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/118002)
I have used either Master brand or Permatex. I don't think the brand matters as long as it has the same properties. I have had great luck with using it this way. I have a few trucks and machines and all batteries get this treatment and I have zero corrosion.
Yahoo Message Number: 118003 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/118003)
Oh yeah one big tip. This is a common joke but true. When using this stuff be very careful not to get any on your hands. It won't hurt you but it will end up everywhere. It goes a long way so they say you will look like the tin man when using this stuff and I have to say it is true LOL.
Yahoo Message Number: 118004 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/118004)
Super Thank you JNat_98!
Would this be the stuff then?: Amazon.com: Permatex 80370 Battery Protector and Sealer, 5 oz. net Aerosol... (http://smile.amazon.com/Permatex-80370-Battery-Protector-Aerosol/dp/B000BOKML2/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?keywords=Permatex+80370+Battery+Protector+and+Sealer%2C+5+oz.+net+Aerosol+Can&qid=1560393745&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr2)
Yahoo Message Number: 118005 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/118005)
Sorry to hit you with all of this, but I'd really like to make sure I have '0' confusion in this whole process :).
or would it be one of these?:
Amazon.com: Permatex 80078 Anti-Seize Lubricant with Brush Top Bottle, 8... (http://www.amazon.com/Permatex-80078-Anti-Seize-Lubricant-Bottle/dp/B000FW7VGE/ref=pd_cp_263_1?pd_rd_w=seBIs&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=V3BZQ2F352CQ50AJJYR4&pd_rd_r=e431912a-8eb1-11e9-ab50-b5a008d08be8&pd_rd_wg=POM2S&pd_rd_i=B000FW7VGE&psc=1&refRID=V3BZQ2F352CQ50AJJYR4)
Amazon.com: Permatex 09128 Copper Anti-Seize Lubricant, 8 oz.: Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/Permatex-09128-Copper-Anti-Seize-Lubricant/dp/B000HBM8HU/ref=pd_cp_263_2?pd_rd_w=seBIs&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=V3BZQ2F352CQ50AJJYR4&pd_rd_r=e431912a-8eb1-11e9-ab50-b5a008d08be8&pd_rd_wg=POM2S&pd_rd_i=B000HBM8HU&psc=1&refRID=V3BZQ2F352CQ50AJJYR4)
Amazon.com: Permatex 24125 Ceramic Extreme Brake Parts Lubricant, 8 oz.:... (http://www.amazon.com/Permatex-24125-Ceramic-Extreme-Lubricant/dp/B0018PSASU/ref=pd_cp_263_4?pd_rd_w=seBIs&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=V3BZQ2F352CQ50AJJYR4&pd_rd_r=e431912a-8eb1-11e9-ab50-b5a008d08be8&pd_rd_wg=POM2S&pd_rd_i=B0018PSASU&psc=1&refRID=V3BZQ2F352CQ50AJJYR4)
or something else???
Thanks a ton again Mr. JNat_98! :)
Yahoo Message Number: 118013 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/118013)
I use silicone dielectric grease on the contact areas of the terminals and spray on protectant over the entire terminal once assembly is completed. If you want to go one step further use the felt pads, Coat the felt with silicone grease, and place the felt between the top of the battery and the terminal clamps.
Anti-seize will make a huge mess any time you touch it, even though it will stop the corrosion, general purpose grease will do the same thing. The battery terminal protectant dries so it doesn't get all over everything that touches it.
Here are choices of the products I'm referring to. You can also pick them up at any auto parts store. I have had very good luck with the NAPA brand terminal sealer.
Amazon.com : battery terminal protector spray (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=battery+terminal+protector+spray&sprefix=battery+term&linkCode=ll2&tag=countrycoach-20&linkId=8230391dbd54c14dd9893434bc9fe8ed&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl)
Dale C.
2005 Inspire
Yahoo Message Number: 118014 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/118014)
Update: Won't be able to pick up the battery till early next week. Was wondering if I should be so bold as to disconnect and clean the house battery terminals and wires during this whole process.
Any and all help/advice in this area would also be greatly appreciated! (https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fok%2Fu%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Femoticons%2Femo1.gif&t=1571232178&sig=z_WfztQchZTCtl6cW1a47g--~E)
Thanks all.
-Luke
00 Allure 36'
330 ISC
Yahoo Message Number: 118028 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/118028)
Greetings All,
I'm quite pleased to report that sweet lady Allure is speaking to me again after a successful battery change!
Thank you all 1 million times!!!
-Luke
Yahoo Message Number: 118029 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/118029)
Whew! Glad to hear she is purring once again. Now it's time for some cleaning and sprucing up and fun on the road.
Yahoo Message Number: 118030 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/118030)
Yes sir!
Thank you Mr. JNat_98!
I will say this one thing however, just a "heads-up" to anyone who may find themselves in the same situation and in need of purchasing a new battery:
Prior to the installation of the new battery(Interstate 8D-MHD), just for a goof, I decided to check the cell water levels. And low-and-behold ALL cell water levels where significantly low.
I'd say a good 1/2 - 3/25 inch below the reading cylinder wall.
So just a word to the wise.
Thank you all so much again!!!
Yahoo Message Number: 118565 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/118565)
Greetings all once again.
I'm following up here to this post because I have something strange happening with my new chassis battery.
I think it was perhaps a month or two ago when I first noticed water on the outside of this new chassis battery along with what appeared to be a bit of excessive corrosion on the negative terminals of my two house batteries.
Also there appears to be a whole lot of corrosion on the outside of the bottom-right front corner of the battery try which I've never seen before.
At first, I thought it was just a water leak in the battery bay as some bays do leak a bit during heavy rains.
But it's been there pretty consistently now and I'm not seeing water leaking down from the top anywhere above/around the battery.
I have since done a bit of investigation and from what I've been able to tell, this may be caused by "overcharging" or perhaps cracked plates.
In addition, I've recently encountered a starting issue with my generator as it suddenly will not crank at all.
And my radio died suddenly at the same time as the generator so I'm thinking the issue is electrical and perhaps it's related to this battery issue.
I've checked both the radio fuse and the two fuses on the front of the outside of the generator and all good.
Also checked the breaker in the back by the fuel filters but I'm not too sure If I checked that properly as I don't really know what to look for in or order to discern that it's been tripped. Its a 150A breaker that looks like a red button about the circumference of a dime.
If its tripped does it like pop out or something??
I've opened a separate forum post for this located here (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/topics/118520?reverse=1).
Might anyone have any insight into why this might be happening?
Any troubleshooting tips?
Thanks a ton again.
-Luke
Yahoo Message Number: 117928 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117928)
This is not your answer but brought me to something I wanted to share with everyone. A friend of mine in a non-Country Coach introduced me to an item from Pulse Tech. The problem with batteries the plates build up sulfates then the acid cannot rejuvenate power to the battery hence we replace right. We installed these units on my batteries last week they say that it will increase battery life 3 to 5 times, if it only doubled it would be worth it.this is not new technology, it was developed in 1988 for the government. It has just recently been put on the open market. Prevost and Newell have had it for some time. I have a friend with a 2008 Newell that has the original batteries in it
If your batteries are weak most likely they will be rejuvenated if not to far gone.these little gizmos ( technical word)pulse 30,000 times a second to remove or keep the sulfates off the plates.
These little suckers(technical word) are CHEAP. Each unit retails for $45.00 and on the small 6 volt battery each unit will handle up to 3 batteries wire in series, the big 8D's each need one. So on mine I used two for my two 8D's, I used four as I have 2 trays with four batteries each, no way to wire three in series. Put one in the Caddy, one in the Vette, the I bought one for the 48 volt golf cart, this one handles all six batteries and it was $72.00. If anyone is interested call me or Greg Ricketts at 210-863-6644. Also Eric Olstrom in Tucson is handling also at 520-624-2024.
Yahoo Message Number: 117952 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117952)
Gary, is this the item you are referring to...???
Amazon.com: Pulsetech PowerPulse Battery Maintenance System, 12V: Sports &... (http://www.amazon.com/Pulsetech-PowerPulse-Battery-Maintenance-System/dp/B00R9VQIOA/ref=asc_df_B00R9VQIOA/?tag=countrycoach-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312125955110&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5495603704715470160&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030779&hvtargid=pla-433759029102&psc=1)
Dave
2007 Allure 470 40' #31495
W/Tag
So. Cal Mountains and Henderson, Nev
Yahoo Message Number: 117953 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/country-coach-owners/conversations/messages/117953)
Yes those are the ones. I'd rather buy from a reputable dealer who stands behind their product.
2006 Magna 6622
Sweating to death in AZ.
Gary Glenn
Bright Idea RV LED Lights
325-665-4993