Yahoo Message Number: 57732 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/57732)
I have never seen a 1996 or 1997 Country Coach Concept for sale. Does anyone on this forum own one? I don't remember seeing a 1993 either. Maybe there are none.
Jim
Yahoo Message Number: 58147 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/58147)
1995 40' CC Concept for sale. Details listed in applications.
Jim
Yahoo Message Number: 60513 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/60513)
I have never seen a '96 or '97 CC Concept for sale or anyone who owns one. Does anyone on this forum own one or knows of one?
Jim
Yahoo Message Number: 60514 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/60514)
Jim -
Last week we were at the Wine Country RV Park in Paso Robles, CA and across from our site was a '96 CC Concept.
I spoke with the owner and he indicated that he was going to be be selling it as he wanted to downsize to a Class C. I have his contact information and if you would like it, please contact me off line.
It appeared to be in very good condition and he said it had always been stored inside.
Kathy
2000 Allure #30536
Yahoo Message Number: 61852 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/61852)
Does anyone on this forum own a 1997 CC Concept? Does anyone know if CC made a 1997 45' Concept with a Detroit Series 60 Engine or did they all have an 8V92?
Jim
Yahoo Message Number: 61857 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/61857)
ALL 45 FOOT CONCEPTS ARE 60 SERIES, JUST LIKE PREVOST WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS OF EARLY PREVOST.THE 60 IS A LONGER MOTOR THAN AN 8V
Yahoo Message Number: 61859 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/61859)
The reason I asked the question is I'm interested in 1997 Concept that is for sale. This is the first '97 I have ever seen on the market and the first I have ever heard about. NADA lists one '97 Concept, it is 45' and has an 8V92. I don't rely on NADA to always be correct. It is just that I have never heard of a '96 or '97 Concept. Thought maybe CC didn't make any those years. I know they made them in '98 and '99. They all had Series 60 engines.
Jim
Yahoo Message Number: 61861 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/61861)
HOW MUCH? I HAVE A COUPLE FRIENDS THAT BOUGHT 45 CONCEPTS.
THEY HAVE HAD TENS OF THOUSANDS DOLLARS OF PROBLEMS. THE BAD PART IS THEY CAN'T FIND A BUYER TO GET OUT OF THERE MISERY. YOU WILL DO BETTER WITH A PREVOST, AND THANK ME. I KNOW OF SEVERAL UNDER 200 GRAND IN THAT YEAR RANGE. BUYER BEWARE?
Yahoo Message Number: 61867 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/61867)
They are asking $199K but that is negotiable. $100K is more in line with todays market.
Are you talking about 1997 or are they '98/'99. I think 1998 was the first year CC produced a unit with the Series 60 engine. You are the first person I've conversed with that said bad things about a CC Concept. IMO, they were the very finest production line MHs built. I have owned two but they were mid '90 coaches. I know absolute nothing about Concepts with the Series 60 engine. I wonder if that was the problem. Also, maybe when they switched to 45'. I would like to hear from anyone that has a 40' or 45' with the series 60 engine. There is one 1998 40' that has been for sale a long, long time. They are asking too much for my pocket book.
Jim
Yahoo Message Number: 61871 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/61871)
WANT AND REALISTIC ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
PRE 60 SERIES CONCEPTS ARE FINE. THE 6V92 A BIT UNDERPOWERED IN A 40, BUT YOU CAN SPEND SOME MONEY AND BUMP UP THE HP FOR NOT A LOT OF MONEY.
FOR 199 YOU CAN BUY A 2000 PREVOST, WHICH IS STILL IN BUSINESS.
Yahoo Message Number: 61878 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/61878)
I agree. I had a 40' Concept with the 6V92 and then one with the 8V92. No comparison between the two.
Price wise, I was thinking around $80K/$90K for a 40'/45' with the Series 60 engine. Based on what I heard here, I am having doubts about the reliability of the Concept with the series 60 engine. I'm a bit surprised to here bad things about them since Bob Lee was still in charge of CC up to 1999.
Jim
Yahoo Message Number: 61892 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/61892)
I recently saw a 40' 98 for sale listed at $119,000 in Calif. by a broker named Bennett. It sold quickly, don't know how much. barrie Boas 94 Concept 5111
Yahoo Message Number: 61927 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/61927)
You are correct, a 36' 40' Concept on a Gillig was one of the best MH built. A 45' on a Country frame with a 60 series is a different story.
They stopped the 40 Concept and 40 Prevost at the same time and went 45' only, 98-99 may be correct.
In 89 the LEES wanted a coach priced less than a Prevost and more than an LTD. They built 3 National buses, 3 Eagle buses and a few 36' and 40' Concepts which won the vote because the shell structure was square and cheaper to build.
The National and Eagle required a thousand more hours to build, or so the story goes.
Yahoo Message Number: 61939 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/61939)
I would like to have some first hand info on Concepts with the series 60 engine. It is difficult for me to believe that CC, under Bob Lee's ownership, would build a lemon. I know they stopped producing the Concept in 1999 and then came out with the Lexa. I don't think that move was Lee's doing.
Jim
Yahoo Message Number: 63039 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/63039)
Looking for a good clean, well kept, easy on the pocket book 36' or 40'(8V92) CC Concept.
Jim
Yahoo Message Number: 63046 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/63046)
Jim, I sent you a seperate email with a link to a '94 Concept 40' here in the Dallas, TX area. It's at www.mrolivers.com Bryce
'94 Concept #5159
Yahoo Message Number: 63053 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/63053)
Bryce,
Thanks. I've been looking at that coach. In fact, I talked to someone at the dealership. It is on consignment. The photos look really good but they can be deceiving. I'm close to making an offer but I would have to inspect it first.
Yahoo Message Number: 63059 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/63059)
There is a 97 in San Diego, forgot the web site, with 13,000 miles.
The reason for the low miles is it sat at ORA in Indio for years because it would never run and the owner tried to trade it in on anything with no takers. I heard he passed away and not sure who owns it.
Buy a Concept on a GILLIG WITH AN 8V AND ENJOY IT.
Yahoo Message Number: 63060 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/63060)
I LIED, HERE IS THE LINK.
http://www.chooseyouritem.com/rvs/files/13546500/13546789.html (http://www.chooseyouritem.com/rvs/files/13546500/13546789.html)
Yahoo Message Number: 64902 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/64902)
Does anyone on this forum own a Country Coach Concept that is powered by a Detroit Series 60 engine? I'm interested in one but I am not familiar with this engine.
Jim
Yahoo Message Number: 64908 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/64908)
I think a lot of Prevost's after 95 or 96
are powered by the Detroit series 60 engine. Barrie Boas 94 Concept 5111, Detroit 8V92TA 450 HP, the predecesor to the series 60.
Yahoo Message Number: 64914 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/64914)
I have the DD 40 series and am very impressed. The DD dealer in Coburg Ore. has a new DD 60 setting on the floor for sale. Very good looking unit. If everything is right on it and it is running as it should, I think you will be impressed, but all Diesels take about 50,000 to brake in and run as they should. I looked at the DD 60 and thought I would not mind having that engine. But now our 40 is right, I'm very happy with the power and I tow a 22' enclosed trailer with Jeep and quads inside. Still very happy. Running barefoot is amazing. Can't hardly keep it down to speed limit, it really wants to go. Would expect the same kind of performance out of the 60. International makes both the 40 and the 60 engine and Detroit Diesel sells them. International makes good engines for the most part.
Leonard
97' Magna 5418
Yahoo Message Number: 69505 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69505)
I'm interested in adding a salon/galley slide on a CC Concept. Has anyone done this or knows a company that can do the job? I would be interested in comments about this project.
Jim E
Yahoo Message Number: 69536 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69536)
A few years ago I inquired about adding a slide to my sob. There was a firm in the Phoenix area that does this (5 years ago). I decided against it as they were going to use 2x4's around the outer edges of the slide. I didn't think that was sufficient strength and it obviously wasn't engineered. Instead I bought my current coach (Country Coach Allure) and lived happily ever after.
John pratt
2006 Allure 31308
Yahoo Message Number: 69558 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69558)
These folks might be able to help with a slide addition:
http://morrisonsvipcoach.com/ (http://morrisonsvipcoach.com/)
Dean
95 Magna 5280
Yahoo Message Number: 69566 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69566)
Dean With my engineering background, I would question whether a slide could be added without affecting the remainder of the structure. The coaches built with slides , from the factory , are structurally reinforced around the slide to accommodate the opening. I don't know how you would do this on an existing coach . I am sure there are people who say they can do it and have done it. The question is, how much problem, did the people have after it was done ? It certainly couldn't be cheap, and I guess with a 1995 coach, you would certainly , never recover the cost. There are a lot of deals out there, and I would suggest to invest the money in a coach with a slide or 2. Keep in mind that some of those early slide coaches had some issues. I , personally , would never consider adding a slide , as you suggest. Prevost Bus , I believe , only allows Marathon Coach , from 2 to 4 slides. Just my humble opinion!!
Ron Baran 09 Magna 7025
Yahoo Message Number: 69567 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69567)
I contacted them and in part, got this response, "I think that the curvature of the roof / sidewall area is too extreme for me to seal the opening properly." As a result they declined the job.
Jim E
Yahoo Message Number: 69570 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69570)
I'm not Dean, I'm Jim E, The reason I would like a slide on a CC Concept is there is no coach available, old or new, that meets the quality of the Concept. None had slides even though they were produced through 1999.
Jim E
Yahoo Message Number: 69588 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/69588)
I can vouch for this company as we had a National RV that they added a bedroom slide in it for us and turned the bed and made a wonderful computer desk for me in the bedroom. They also redid the bathroom and added a bath tub. They did a wonderful job for us. Then my husband saw a CC and he had to have it. I lost my desk and bath tub. It was a gas coach that we had just had Michelin tires put on. But now I have another good coach.
Ilene 2004 Inspire 51071
Yahoo Message Number: 75987 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/75987)
I'm interested in a 1997 CC Concept. Does anyone know of any structural issues of with a 45' model? I've heard there are some but don't know the specifics.
Jim E
Yahoo Message Number: 79988 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/79988)
Has anyone ever installed a slide in their Concept.
Jim E