Yahoo Message Number: 10745 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/10745)
Has anyone installed a engine fan shield either one from CC or wire cloth? Please share any experience in ordering from CC or materials specifications.
Paul & Nancy Cummings
Intique 01
Yahoo Message Number: 10748 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/10748)
I have purchased the shield from CCI and installed it myself. Unfortunately I have been home since the install and haven't had an opportunity to see if it worked.
If you want to put a shield on or have someone elsi do it, you can save a bunch of money by having a sheet metal shop sell you a piece of metal that will cover the lower side of the fan shroud and extend out 4 or 5 inches to cover the protruding fan blades.
You can crawl under the left/rear and measure the shroud length and the required width and have one cut out of aluminum or light gauge steel, anodized or painted.
The CCI piece is a flat sheet with some random holes drilled in it. The ends were not bent to wrap up around the shroud and the holes didn't match up with anything on my coach. Nevertheless, I bent the ends up and drilled holes where appropriate and used sheet metal fasteners.
CCI charged me around $80.00 plus freight and didn't even provide the fasteners. I'll bet a piece of appropriate steel or aluminum could be purchased for a heck of a lot less than that.
The question is....does the dang thing work? Some say no. It certainly appears that the protruding 3 or 4 inches of fan blade blowing directly down would kick up a lot of dust, so maybe it will help. It's a pretty inexpensive fix if it cuts down on the dust.
My problem with the continually running fan was not solved by changing the hydraulic thermostat. It still comes on with a cold start. I can't tell how fast it is running without some sort of a strobe light, so I have given up. What the heck, it doesn't overheat and fuel mileage is certainly not a motivating factor. I get around 20mpg anyway, don't you?
My old coach (99 model) doesn't have the electronically controlled fan and so I'll have to live with it. It's fallen into the category of "ain't no big thang". I'm happier.
Larry
Intrigue
10762
Yahoo Message Number: 10749 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/10749)
20 mpg.....gee that's pretty darn good. You must go down hill a lot. I only get about 8 with my '95 300 hp Cummins. But that is a heck of a lot better than a guy I met with a 04 Monaco Executive with a 500 hp Detroit. He only gets 4.7.....ouch.
LOL
Mike
'95 Intrigue 10061
Unfortunately I have been home since the install and haven't had an opportunity to see if it worked.
save a bunch of money by having a sheet metal shop sell you a piece of metal that will cover the lower side of the fan shroud and extend out 4 or 5 inches to cover the protruding fan blades.
and the required width and have one cut out of aluminum or light gauge steel, anodized or painted.
it. The ends were not bent to wrap up around the shroud and the holes didn't match up with anything on my coach. Nevertheless, I bent the ends up and drilled holes where appropriate and used sheet metal fasteners.
the fasteners. I'll bet a piece of appropriate steel or aluminum could be purchased for a heck of a lot less than that.
certainly appears that the protruding 3 or 4 inches of fan blade blowing directly down would kick up a lot of dust, so maybe it will help. It's a pretty inexpensive fix if it cuts down on the dust.
changing the hydraulic thermostat. It still comes on with a cold start. I can't tell how fast it is running without some sort of a strobe light, so I have given up. What the heck, it doesn't overheat and fuel mileage is certainly not a motivating factor. I get around 20mpg anyway, don't you?
controlled fan and so I'll have to live with it. It's fallen into the category of "ain't no big thang". I'm happier.
Yahoo Message Number: 10751 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/10751)
Paul and Nancy,
Why would you need a fan shield? The problem is that the fan controller is not reducing the speed of the fan at the appropriate time, this is an engineering problem that should be addressed by CC engineering department. I guess what we need is a switch duct taped to the dash (after all this is the "finest coach built in America," so nothing is too good for the owners of these coaches, which allows us to turn the fan on and off at the appropriate times since the fan controller obviously doesn't work as designed. Or, maybe CC engineers could be assigned to fix the problem rather than trying to overcome the symptoms of the problem. What a novel idea, fix the source of the problem...do you think there is anyone with enough innovative thought, outside of their marketing department, at CC who might be persuaded to actually fix the problem rather than suggest that you just use duct tape, or in this case a piece of sheet metal, on the symptoms.
Does anyone know of any service center in the country who knows how to fix the fan controller problem on a CC built motorhome? I'd pay to find that service center.
wire
materials
Yahoo Message Number: 10758 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/10758)
Larry, adding this piece to the bottom of the shroud does not effect the cooling any?
Egon
Yahoo Message Number: 10802 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/10802)
Larry,
Many thanks for the information. Based on your help, I think I will make the modification. I was not sure what CCI had come up with. A friend in our local chapter experienced the rock pick up and into the radiator going to Alaska. It cost him $1200 to repair. That could happen to anyone. Alaska is not the only state with rockey roads.
What size are the holes? Keeping in mind air flow and rock size seems to be the question. Smaller holes but more of them is my guess.
How about your Oil Pan. Is is protected too?
Paul
01' Intigue 11309
Unfortunately I have been home since the install and haven't had an opportunity to see if it worked.
save a bunch of money by having a sheet metal shop sell you a piece of metal that will cover the lower side of the fan shroud and extend out 4 or 5 inches to cover the protruding fan blades.
and the required width and have one cut out of aluminum or light gauge steel, anodized or painted.
it. The ends were not bent to wrap up around the shroud and the holes didn't match up with anything on my coach. Nevertheless, I bent the ends up and drilled holes where appropriate and used sheet metal fasteners.
the fasteners. I'll bet a piece of appropriate steel or aluminum could be purchased for a heck of a lot less than that.
certainly appears that the protruding 3 or 4 inches of fan blade blowing directly down would kick up a lot of dust, so maybe it will help. It's a pretty inexpensive fix if it cuts down on the dust.
changing the hydraulic thermostat. It still comes on with a cold start. I can't tell how fast it is running without some sort of a strobe light, so I have given up. What the heck, it doesn't overheat and fuel mileage is certainly not a motivating factor. I get around 20mpg anyway, don't you?
controlled fan and so I'll have to live with it. It's fallen into the category of "ain't no big thang". I'm happier.
Yahoo Message Number: 10910 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/10910)
I bought a 7" x 45" piece of 14 gauge galvanized steel for just $8 at Metal Supermarkets in Tampa (near Lazydays). Installed it in just a couple hours including spraying it with undercoat. It works great - no more dust cloud when I pull into a dusty campground with the air conditioner running. The fan controller on my coach works correctly and cycles between low and high speeds as needed. The extension to the fan housing is just a nice convenience to cut down on the dust when I drive on dusty roads with the A/C on. I've also been told that it eliminates the problem of having rocks kicked up into the radiator or charge air cooler by the fan, although I can't see how that can happen considering that the fan blades blow toward the engine and not toward the radiator. Oh, well, it seems like it was a worthy $8 investment.
Regards,
Bob Kumza
2003 Intrigue
Unfortunately I have been home since the install and haven't had an opportunity to see if it worked.
save a bunch of money by having a sheet metal shop sell you a piece of metal that will cover the lower side of the fan shroud and extend out 4 or 5 inches to cover the protruding fan blades.
and the required width and have one cut out of aluminum or light gauge steel, anodized or painted.
it. The ends were not bent to wrap up around the shroud and the holes didn't match up with anything on my coach. Nevertheless, I bent the ends up and drilled holes where appropriate and used sheet metal fasteners.
the fasteners. I'll bet a piece of appropriate steel or aluminum could be purchased for a heck of a lot less than that.
certainly appears that the protruding 3 or 4 inches of fan blade blowing directly down would kick up a lot of dust, so maybe it will help. It's a pretty inexpensive fix if it cuts down on the dust.
changing the hydraulic thermostat. It still comes on with a cold start. I can't tell how fast it is running without some sort of a strobe light, so I have given up. What the heck, it doesn't overheat and fuel mileage is certainly not a motivating factor. I get around 20mpg anyway, don't you?
controlled fan and so I'll have to live with it. It's fallen into the category of "ain't no big thang". I'm happier.