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Title: Unhappy with headlights - new thread 2
Post by: Fred Kovol_01 on February 11, 2005, 06:39:29 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 14913 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14913)
Hi Folks,

Had to remove some rubber junk to get the lightbulb assembly out - its push in and turn to the left for removal. The bulbs are the 9004 12vdc 65w/45w.

The high beam is 65 and the low 45. Only one filament is lit at a time. I looked at bulbs in the JC Whitney catalog(690-J09). On p.138 you can purchase non-DOT replacements either 100/55 or 100/80 in their house brand or Streetglow for a few bucks more. The issue is, will the headlight assembly melt? I am going to try. Those Taiwan assemblies look pretty cheap and the lense always has condensate on the inside.

For the fog lights, on p.139 a dual fog/driving light is offered (optux by Hella), item K. Looks like they may be close in dimensions to the original fog lights.
Fred Kovol

2000 Allure 30593
Title: Re: Unhappy with headlights - new thread 2
Post by: Buick528@aol Com on February 11, 2005, 08:47:52 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 14916 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14916)
Fred, I put the PIAA Bright White replacements in mine last weekend. The difference was like night and day... literally. You can also get the Sylvania Silverstar for about the same price. I would NOT do the 100/80 deal, as the wiring size won't handle it for an extended time..

JH 10996
Title: Re: Unhappy with headlights - new thread 2 PIAA
Post by: Fred Kovol_01 on February 11, 2005, 09:50:25 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 14917 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14917)
Hi Folks,

Here is the link for PIAA.

http://www.piaadirect.com/page3.html (http://www.piaadirect.com/page3.html)
Looks impressive - I may have had my mind changed.

Fred Kovol

2000 Allure 30593
Title: Re: Unhappy with headlights - new thread 2 PIAA
Post by: Fred Kovol_01 on February 11, 2005, 10:18:17 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 14918 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14918)
Hi Folks,

Certain PIAA groups have very low reliability - about 6 months.
This link addresses SAE vs E code lenses and wattages:
http://www.hitechimportlighting.com/techinfofaq.htm#difference (http://www.hitechimportlighting.com/techinfofaq.htm#difference) between PIAA Super White and PIAA Super

Looks like a different lense is the way to go. This is tougher than I thought it would be.
Fred Kovol

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Hi Folks,

Here is the link for PIAA.
>http://www.piaadirect.com/page3.html (http://www.piaadirect.com/page3.html) >

Looks impressive - I may have had my mind changed.

Fred Kovol

2000 Allure 30593

Quote from: Buick528@a...
> Fred, I put the PIAA Bright White replacements in mine last

weekend.

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The

> difference was like night and day... literally. You can also get

the

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Sylvania

> Silverstar for about the same price. I would NOT do the 100/80

deal,
Title: Re: Unhappy with headlights - new thread 2 PIAA
Post by: Travman100_4 on February 12, 2005, 02:21:14 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 14925 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14925)
Fred,

How would you go about replacing the lense? It appears these babies were put in to stay unless you have very long skiny arms/hands. My right one has always had moisture in it and it defintely needs replacment.

Travman

2000 Intrigue 11040

Quote from: fredkovol
Hi Folks,

Certain PIAA groups have very low reliability - about 6 months.
This link addresses SAE vs E code lenses and wattages: > >http://www.hitechimportlighting.com/techinfofaq.htm#difference (http://www.hitechimportlighting.com/techinfofaq.htm#difference)

between

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PIAA Super White and PIAA Super >

Looks like a different lense is the way to go. This is tougher

than I

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thought it would be.
Fred Kovol

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> Hi Folks,

> Here is the link for PIAA.
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>http://www.piaadirect.com/page3.html (http://www.piaadirect.com/page3.html) > >

> Looks impressive - I may have had my mind changed.
>

> Fred Kovol

> 2000 Allure 30593
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Title: Re: Unhappy with headlights - new thread 2
Post by: Jim Hughes on February 14, 2005, 07:32:05 am
Yahoo Message Number: 14948 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14948)
I would like to change my lights as well to something better. But, not really sure of what the lenses, wiring and fixtures will take in the additional heat from higher wattage bulbs. So, look forward to hear what you and others discover.

Fred, your coach and mine should be the same design.

Jim Hughes

2000 Allure #30511

Quote from: fredkovol
Hi Folks,

Had to remove some rubber junk to get the lightbulb assembly out -

its

Quote
push in and turn to the left for removal. The bulbs are the 9004

12vdc

Quote
65w/45w.

The high beam is 65 and the low 45. Only one filament is lit at a > time. I looked at bulbs in the JC Whitney catalog(690-J09). On

p.138

Quote
you can purchase non-DOT replacements either 100/55 or 100/80 in

their

Quote
house brand or Streetglow for a few bucks more. The issue is, will

the

Quote
headlight assembly melt? I am going to try. Those Taiwan

assemblies

Quote
look pretty cheap and the lense always has condensate on the

inside.

Quote
>

For the fog lights, on p.139 a dual fog/driving light is offered > (optux by Hella), item K. Looks like they may be close in

dimensions
Title: Headlights
Post by: LARRY A HANSON on February 12, 2005, 04:16:02 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 14930 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14930)
You can purchase these after-market head light assemblies from a Body Shop Supply store that handles after-market (Asian-built) parts. They are pretty common. Country Coach uses them as OEM. Lots of other motor home mfg's use them. They are about 50% cost of Ford OEM parts. Many have the "DEPOT" brand stamped on the lense.
Most of us are dealing with the 90 and up Bronco and Ford pickup series.
If the outside is just cloudy, try an acrylic polish or mild cleaner/polish before replacing them. It cleans them up in most cases.

Larry
Intrigue
10762
Title: Re: Headlights
Post by: Fred Kovol_01 on February 12, 2005, 05:42:59 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 14932 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14932)
Hi Larry,

Thanks for the information. The lenses assembly is pretty poor in materials, CCI had to rubber gup the rear of the connector so the bulb assembly would not fall out. The lenses itself barely meets SAE requirements. I on a hunt with the neighbors vehicles to see who has the best low beam throw - my wifes Saturn LS appears to have the best so far. Problem would be to fit a bezel arond it.
Fred Kovol

Quote from: LARRY A HANSON
> You can purchase these after-market head light assemblies from a
Body Shop Supply store that handles after-market (Asian-built) parts.
They are pretty common. Country Coach uses them as OEM. Lots of other motor home mfg's use them. They are about 50% cost of Ford OEM parts.
Many have the "DEPOT" brand stamped on the lense.

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>

Most of us are dealing with the 90 and up Bronco and Ford pickup

series.

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>

If the outside is just cloudy, try an acrylic polish or mild
cleaner/polish before replacing them. It cleans them up in most cases.
Title: Re: Headlights
Post by: Ron Hawkins on February 13, 2005, 09:41:18 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 14944 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14944)
We also can get units that are made for higher wattage bulbs

Ron

Innovative CoachWorks
Title: Headlights
Post by: James Wehren on February 23, 2009, 09:20:23 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 45236 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/45236)
Have a 98 Intrigue, 10636, can anyone tell me what headlights I have? I need lenses, buffing does no good, inside is very dull. None of the manuals I have show what the headlights are off of. Someone told me it was from a Bronco but didn't tell me the year. Does anyone have this problem? Any help would be appreciated. Jim W
Title: Re: Headlights
Post by: Jack Foster on February 23, 2009, 10:03:50 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 45237 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/45237)
James

Headlights for your coach are F series Ford pickup up through 1991. I bought a couple off of ebay for about 75.00 each with chrome trim.
Made in China.

Jack Foster Allure 1997 30076
Title: Re: Headlights
Post by: James Wehren on February 24, 2009, 09:50:56 am
Yahoo Message Number: 45241 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/45241)
Thanks for the info. I'm going to check it out today. Jim W.-
Title: Re: Headlights
Post by: Al on February 24, 2009, 11:26:58 am
Yahoo Message Number: 45248 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/45248)
Another suggestion.....See if you can find a body shop that saves parts catalogs. They have a parts book referred in the body shop trade as a "crash book". They show OEM numbers and a lot of pictures of body parts. This can narrowed down to ID what you have. Jack, is correct that CC was using headlight frames from the Ford trucks for several years.
AL

00 affinity #5851
Title: Re: Headlights
Post by: Earl on February 24, 2009, 12:27:03 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 45251 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/45251)
Jim, On my 03 Intrigue the head lights are "Ford Bronco (1987-1991) TYC Part # 20-1608-94-1A" (passenger side). I had one fail and that is what CC sent as a replacement. You might want to google that part number and see if you get any hits.

Earl Densten

03 Intrigue 11554

Quote from: James Wehren
>

Have a 98 Intrigue, 10636, can anyone tell me what headlights I

have?

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I need lenses, buffing does no good, inside is very dull. None of

the

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manuals I have show what the headlights are off of. Someone told me

it