Yahoo Message Number: 14988 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14988)
To all online experts.
I noticed the other day that my air pressure was all the way down to zero. The coach had been sitting for about three weeks. Drove it awhile (after building up pressure to 125) and two days later it is only down to 90psi. Therefore, I assume the system has presssure integrity.I was under the impression that a check valve shut off the reservoir somewhere between 40-65 and that it would go no lower. Any thoughts?
Lyle Wetherholt
04 Intrigue 11740
Yahoo Message Number: 14989 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14989)
Lyle:
This may not be applicable to you, but I experienced a similar incident.
While mine did not drop to zero, the air pressure did seem to be lower than it normally would have been after sitting for a couple of weeks. What caused this lower than normal drop was the fact that I had raised the tag prior to maneuvering into a space. Once I was in position, I applied the brake and shut the engine off and, of course, the tag came down. Hence, the shut down air pressure was significantly lower than it would have been had I dropped the tag and waited for the air pressure to build before shutting down. I attribute the lower than usual air pressure to the fact that raising and lowering the tag and using the brakes, the normal air pressure attrition started at a lower psi than it would have had I waited to top it off.
Chuck
03 Intrigue 11673
Yahoo Message Number: 14990 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14990)
Lyle,
If you have an air leak in the system the leak will continue until all air pressure is lost. What happens when your air pressure drops to a certain point, usually between 30 to 40 psi....and that varies with each coach, is that your emergency braking system will apply using the s-cam brake .....or lock up.....that is a safety feature designed into air systems, but the air leak(s) will continue to allow air to escape until all air is gone. Once you fire up the coach and recharge the system, the emergency braking system will then be operational and when you release your using the yellow knob, the brakes of course will release.
An air leak that takes two days to allow all of the air to escape is not uncommon and probably doesn't constitute and emergency situation but it would be best to determine where the air is escaping and get it repaired.
Bill
Yahoo Message Number: 14991 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14991)
Hi Lyle,
This issue has been visited from time to time.
If the pressure drop is greater than 5 psi per hour - consider looking for the source of the leak. Fittings have been the problem in the past. Soapy water works well. Get out the pneumatic foldout (22x96 inches)to get famaliar with the air system.
Fred Kovol
2000 Allure 30593
Yahoo Message Number: 14997 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14997)
This was from an article by Brian Keys on the CC staff re: air brakes
"In many conversations, some very experienced coach owners feel they have terrible air system leaks if they lose any air on the dash- mounted air pressure gauge overnight. This is an unnecessary concern since all air systems use air and a small loss is expected and normal. The Department of Transportation states that a two-pound loss of air per minute with the engine not running is within normal specifications.
With a Country Coach, it is also normal to require up to five minutes for your air system to be refilled if your coach has been stationary for a period of time or if the air suspension has had the air dumped during the leveling process. This refilling procedure is best accomplished by running the engine at high idle for approximately five minutes with your air leveling system in the travel mode. Even though your travel light comes on when you turn off your HWH leveling control, this does not mean your air system is refilled and is ready to travel.
The proper way to ensure the air brakes and complete air system have refilled and are ready for operation is to observe the air pressure gauge on the dash and be sure it reads in the 100-120 P.S.I. range.
For your clarification, the 90 to 125 pounds range mentioned previously is the operating range of the engine mounted air compressor. During coach operation the air pressure gauge will be in the 100 to 125 range on the gauge in the dash. "
Hope this helps answer your questions...
Jan McNeill
2001 Intrigue 11320
Yahoo Message Number: 15000 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15000)
Hi Jan,
Please see previous threads on this subject. Two psi / hour not minute is, as I can remember, maybe be the federal limit.
Fred Kovol
Yahoo Message Number: 15001 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15001)
Chuck,
You should always drop the tag before you stop the coach. This gives the coach time to load on to the tag. Droping the tag after you shut off the engine puts more of a load on your main drive axle. I found that out two weeks ago at FMCA in Brooksville, Fl.
I had our 05 Magna weighed on a six point scale and I forgot to drop the tag until I got to the weighing area then I had to drop the tag and move the coach foreard twice to get a proper weigh. The people doing the weighing had to keep moving the scales as I moved because the main axle was showing up to heavy. When the tag was finally loaded our weights were close to what they were 6 months ago.
Bill G. 2005 Magna #6425.
Yahoo Message Number: 15002 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15002)
When I took a Class-B license test (Nevada), I recall that a maximum drop 2 psi/min is allowed when the brakes are engaged. In case the air also serves a trailer (or other tow), the allowable maximum drop is 3 psi/min.
Maybe that's where the 2 psi/min comes from.
Yahoo Message Number: 15008 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15008)
Bill:
Thanks for the information regarding the tag. After doing it a couple of times, I suspected something like you described. Now that you have confirmed the need for the coach to be moved with the tag down prior to shutting down, that's what I'll do.
Chuck
03 Intrigue 11673
Yahoo Message Number: 15011 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15011)
A little of the grandkid's bubble blowing stuff, mixed about 5 to 1 with water works really well....air leaks blow REALLY big bubbles....
Ray and Rue
Allure 31176
Yahoo Message Number: 14992 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14992)
We have an 04 Allure . When it is parked can you let all the air out of the airbags, so it is low to the ground and then level it? We haven't been successful in doing this and am thinking that we are going to have to purchase a step to get up on the steps! Thanks, the Livelys
Also we haven't seen or heard anything about C.C. rallys. Where do we look. Needless to say we are new at this group thing and have really enjoyed it.
Yahoo Message Number: 14995 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14995)
I have an '04 Allure also. On a relatively level site I release the air from the suspension before I level. There is another step however. Here is what I suggest you try.
1. Turn on the HWH leveling system
2. Push the lower all button
3. WHen down push the button to turn the system off
4. Turn the system back on again
5. Push the button to auto level......now it should work
In other words....the system will not go from purge all to level. It must be turned off after the purge and before the level.
Let us know how it works for you.
In order to get info on Rallys, go to the CCI(CountryCoach International) section of countrycoach.com. I also suggest that you join CCI.
George '04 Allure 31038
Yahoo Message Number: 14996 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14996)
You're going to have to get some steps no matter what. Frequently enough you'll find that your front end is way up in the air to level the coach. We have ones we bought from Camping Word which work well.
(the more expensive ones.)
Go to the Country Coach website (www.countrycoach.com) which has rally info too. They even have articles from Destinations that you might have missed and would like to read.
Welcome to a VERY informative site! Jan McNeill
2001 Intrigue 11320
Yahoo Message Number: 14998 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14998)
At Home comming and FMCA rallys HWH recommends you level starting with all your bags empty to get the firmest results, reducing sway, and the geatest travel for uneven terain.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731 42'.
Yahoo Message Number: 15018 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15018)
We us an adjustable height plastic exercise step. It's very stable and lightweight. And can be used for its original purpose, too!
FWIW ... I always see them at yard/tag/garage sales. Cheap.
Dick (& Geri) Campagna (in Key West) '98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97
Yahoo Message Number: 15129 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15129)
From the Livelys, owner of an 04 Allure. We hear people referring to HomeComing last year. What is homecoming? Members since Jan. of 05
By the way, we really enjoy this web-site, thanks to everyone that participates.
Yahoo Message Number: 15144 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15144)
I believe that people are using Homecoming to refer to the Class Reunion...the annual Country Coach International rally held at the Lane County Fairgrounds in Eugene, OR. This year it will be September 14 - 18. If you aren't a memeber of CCI, you can join at:
Club Connection | Winnebago - Country Coach (http://www.countrycoach.com/lifestyle/club/)
Hope to see you there.
Carol
Yahoo Message Number: 15936 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15936)
I had a question some time ago about how to de-activate what makes the tv go off when the ignition key is turned on. I received several answers for that, thank you. Now my question is how to get the tv out . Those with a projection screen probably have the same type of tv we have. It is in the middle of the upper cabinets. We took the trim off and then another part. But could not figure out how to get it loose. It's as if it is hooked by something else. Any help would be appreciated.
John and Pat Lively 04 Allure#31022
Yahoo Message Number: 15937 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15937)
John: My CC is an old Girl, (99) but I assume they are still using the same methods. After removing the trim, it's likely they used hook-loop (Velcro) strips on the bottom. Most electronics are held to the cabinets using this method.
If you use some pressure to lift the set up, you will probably see them. I have used a long tool, such as a spatula to get between the strips because they sometimes hang on tight enough to crack the plastic housing. In come cases, they use wire ties also. I haven't seen any other methods used.
Here's another "gee-whiz" thing to consider: If you plan to travel with the set working, such as toting Grandkids around, or the wife insisting on watching Opra or Dr. Phil, you might consider wireless headsets.
I have them in my Intrigue for the Grandkids. Radio Shack sells a low-end set and there are some hi-tech ones out there now. Just install the hardware while you are rewiring the power source. Mute the TV and use the headsets for audio. The driver isn't tempted to sneak a glance and if it's Barney Tele-Tubies, you won't be bored stiff.
Larry
Intrigue
10762
Yahoo Message Number: 80747 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/80747)
For those of you and Dallas Evans, that have installed a Samsung refrigerator in your coach how did you secure the doors while traveling?
Walt
2004 Inspire
Yahoo Message Number: 80748 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/80748)
Go down to the hardware store ACE or whatever and get some baby door locks, little plastic things that have two stick on knobs one for each door and a connector link that pushes on each knob.
Yahoo Message Number: 80749 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/80749)
Hello Walt
We have an RF 197 and secure the fridge doors with a simple velcro strap wrapped around both handles. The freezer door is secured with a Sugatsune latch http://www.homeclick.com/sugatsune-hc-85-s-sliding-door-latch/p-332141.aspx. (http://www.homeclick.com/sugatsune-hc-85-s-sliding-door-latch/p-332141.aspx.) I put the strike plate on the cabinet next to the freezer door and the moving latch portion on the side of the freezer door itself- works great.
Brad Burgess
UTB 08 Intrigue
Yahoo Message Number: 80750 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/80750)
Velcro straps. Wrap 1 or 2 around the fridge handles and install some hooks so you can run one across the freezer drawer. Send me an e-mail address and I'll send you some pictures.
Get some "non-skid" shelf liner for the shelfs.
Jim 07 Allure #31570
Yahoo Message Number: 80751 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/80751)
OOPS - left a "period" in the link - try http://www.homeclick.com/sugatsune-hc-85-s-sliding-door-latch/p-332141.aspx
Brad Burgess
Yahoo Message Number: 80780 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/80780)
A search of the memory bank between my ears reveals only a vague answer to my question: What protection is recommended for the surface under the tires of a parked RV? I seem to remember that most surfaces can cause deterioration, probably due to moisture.
I plan to build a shelter alongside our house and it might be awhile before I can install the concrete floor. Does anything need to be put between the concrete and the rubber? What about between the ground and the rubber? I'm probably hypersensitive, but that's because I just spent the kids' entire inheritance on new tires.
Jim Biestek
'04 Intrigue
11783
Yahoo Message Number: 80785 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/80785)
Walt,
I uses a double backed velcro wrap around the two upper door handles and two wide velcro stips to hold the freezer in.
see pictures here:
photos/album/370769381/pic/553180841/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=41&count=20&dir=asc (http://photos/album/370769381/pic/553180841/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=41&count=20&dir=asc)
I could have gone the way of putting the latches on like many have. I read one email from someone on this site that accidently drilled a hole for the sheet metal screws in the side of the refrigerator and drilled through a condenser tube that runs up the front side of the RF197. opps! I did not want to test my luck on that one and later write about it so I have resisted.
I just acquired a big boat that we are going to put the RF197 in to replace the norcold. I am duplicating the same inverter, battery cables and batteries that I put in the country coach because it has worked so well for us in the coach.
Dallas 04 intrigue 11688
Yahoo Message Number: 80788 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/80788)
You need to park on plywood, cardboard or a rug. Keep tires off cement and black top. The black spots left on cement is from moisture drawn out of tires.
Gary Bender
04 Intrigue #11701
Yahoo Message Number: 80794 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/80794)
There are all kinds of opinions. Yes, many years ago the materials in the tires were affected by "fresh concrete" BUT not anymore. I've been parking on concrete for 20+ years and 1-no marks under the tires when I move it and 2-no deterioration of the rubber compound. And my Prevost is parked inside for long periods of time.
Now keep in mind, the first thing I did with the concrete was to coat it with a sealer. 1-it made for a much nicer finish for cleaning it off and 2-it sealed the surface so there is less chance of "staining" from things spilled on it.
As far as parking on crushed stone, again, I know of no "true statements" from tire manufacturers suggesting otherwise. Park on the crushed stone.
If you have a moisture problem, you really need to find a way to eliminate it because in a shelter or garage, you really don't want moisture. The tires are not the biggest concern with moisture. My whole vehicle is.
I have a propane heating system in the winter (exhausted to the outside) and I run a dehumidifier in the summer. The garage is insulated very well as are the overhead doors.
bill 'n barb, poconos of pa, 1998 cc prevost 40'xl #30365
Yahoo Message Number: 91316 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/91316)
Has anyone ever used Carrier and sons in Junction city. I've heard all good about them and wonder about conflicting reports.
Thanks
Dave and Tammy
06 Inspire
Yahoo Message Number: 91317 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/91317)
+1 review from us..
A great group of techs...
Russ
05 Intrigue
11883
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Yahoo Message Number: 91318 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/91318)
They're our "go to" guys and have been doing our service work even when still in the delivery phase. We stop each spring and fall on our migrations north & south. Also recomend the 6th Street Deli in JC for lunch.
Jim 07 Allure #31570
Yahoo Message Number: 91324 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/91324)
They did all our warranty work authorized by CC starting in 2000. We see them now, most every year with our list of projects. They've worked on our slide, water system, hvac, etc, etc, etc! They have helped us on several remodel projects in conjunction with Davis Cab.
We have great respect for Tom, Teresa and their entire technical staff! They have always been more than honest with the billing hours they charge.
We strongly recommend them!
Tom & Joyce Newman
99 Allure 30288
Yahoo Message Number: 92949 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/92949)
I read about some of us that park our MH for a period of time and the batteries run down even though we turn the house batteries and chassis batteries off.
Question.... If I'm not going to use the coach for 2 or more months during the winter. I disconnect the negative battery cables from the batteries. believing that this should stop all power draining devices from batteries. Could I harm something by doing this?
Yea, I need to reset some items when I hook them up, but so far they have always been charged sufficiently to start the MH. Just curious.
Dave
07 Country Coach Allure 430 #31495
2 Jeep GC Toad
Mountains of So Cal
Yahoo Message Number: 92951 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/92951)
Dave
Two months is probably OK if your batteries are strong. If weak and it is cold you could be disappointed. That is how I found out it was time to change my starting batteries. All batteries will discharge regardless of whether they are connected to a parasitic load which is one of the reasons I like AGMs because they discharge at a lower rate. If this is a pattern and your coach is not in covered storage then solar is a good option for maintaining your batteries.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348 C-9
Yahoo Message Number: 92956 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/92956)
Dave, Disconnecting should not do any harm. However, your batteries will loose their charge over an extended time.
Rj
2005 Inspire #51264
Yahoo Message Number: 14993 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14993)
YOU CAN GO TO THE CC WEB SITE AND GO TO CLUB SECTION AND YOU WILL FIND THE RALLY SCHEDUAL. IF YOU HAVE NOT JOINED COUNTRY COACH INTERNATIONAL YOU CAN DO SO BY CALLING THE CCI OFFICE AT 1-800-537- 8710 AND TALK TO OUR MANAGER KATRINA DAMON OR HER ASSTANT KIM AND THEY WILL HELP YOU JOIN. AFTER JOING YOU WILL RECEIVE THE DESTINATIONS MAGAZINE WHICH WILL HAVE A LOT OF VALUABLE INFORMATION INCLUDING FUTURE RALLIES. LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING YOU AT A FUTURE RALLY.
JERRY OCONNOR
PRESIDENT CCI
COACH #60414
Yahoo Message Number: 14994 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14994)
I have been a member since September 2004. I have only received one magazine. How often do they come out?
Yahoo Message Number: 14999 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/14999)
DESTIONATION COMES OUT FOUR TIMES A YEAR, YOU NEED TO CALL THE CLUB OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE CORRECT ADDRESS AND THAT YOUR DUES ARE CURRENT.
JERRY, COACH #60414