Yahoo Message Number: 15374 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15374)
Good Day to All.
Any user's of the Pressure Pro system had any clearance problems with the large size of the valve cap sensors.
I'm Afraid the size of the holes in my Alcoa wheels might be a problem for the size of the sensors, My valve stems end right in the center of the hole.
Any feed back would be a help.........Thank You.
Mac. Allure #30032
Yahoo Message Number: 15376 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15376)
Mac, I had to use valve stem extenders for the front wheels only. The larger valve cap would easily fit in the Alcoa hole, but the valve wasn't centered.
When buying the about 1 inch extender, make sure to get a quality one, or the you may have a small leak (with the Pressure Pro caps, the extenders are now constantly under pressure).
Yahoo Message Number: 15382 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15382)
Good Day to All.
Any user's of the Pressure Pro system had any clearance problems with the large size of the valve cap sensors.
I'm Afraid the size of the holes in my Alcoa wheels might be a problem for the size of the sensors, My valve stems end right in the center of the hole.
Any feed back would be a help.........Thank You.
Mac. Allure #30032
Yahoo Message Number: 15384 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15384)
I just finished installing the pressure pro system on my 2005 Inspire.I removed the valve stem extensions on the rear wheels and the sensor caps now fit perfectly in the center of the wheel holes. There is just enough clearance around the caps to get my fingers on to tighten them.
Steve Gebhardt
2005 Inspire 51273
Yahoo Message Number: 15411 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15411)
Henk.....
What did you do to solve the problem of the outside duals valve facing inwards? I have looked at braided extensions and clamps made by Hatlec, but am reluctant to install them due to the clamps marring the surface of the Aluminum wheel. What arrangements did you make to overcome this?
Bob Fuzak
2002 Magna #6148
Yahoo Message Number: 15412 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15412)
When the valve is not at the bottom, I stick my arm between the duals and am able to guide it with the fingers of my other hand onto the thread. I don't feel good about this method, as there are positions when I must rely on the coach to stay at a certain raised position.
If I get new tires sometime this year (they're coming up on their fifth birthday), I'll probably look for a better solution, if there is such a thing (without creating a problem if I ever have to change the wheels).
Since PressurePro recommends Haltec for the valve extensions, maybe both are working on a solution for our predicament with the outside duals.
One solution could be to tie both tire valves together, something some people like as it keeps the pressure in both tires synchronized. I don't like this solution: when one tire goes, both will.
BTW. Haltec does make rubber inserts that fit into an Alco wheel hole.
Maybe one of the braided extensions could be flexed back from the valve into a neighboring hole with a rubber insert. That might prevent the wheel damage. I suspect that this might not work, unless the braided extension is rather stiff. Maybe the clamps you describe will work with this rubber insert?
Henk J. Bots, 2000 Magna #5824.
facing inwards? I have looked at braided extensions and clamps made by Hatlec, but am reluctant to install them due to the clamps marring the surface of the Aluminum wheel. What arrangements did you make to overcome this?
Yahoo Message Number: 15414 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15414)
Thanks, Henk......
Never thought about doing it that way. Duh!!!! I wonder why the valves are turned inwards in the first place? There must be something I am missing. Even in the old days with inner tubes, the valve stems were turned to the inside. If there is a reason they can't/shouldn/t be rotated to the outside on tubeless tires, I'd sure like to know what it is.
Bob Fuzak 2002 Magna #6148
Yahoo Message Number: 15416 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15416)
QUTE: "One solution could be to tie both tire valves together, something some people like as it keeps the pressure in both tires synchronized. I don't like this solution: when one tire goes, both will.
I have the Crossfire on my duals which performs this function. They advertise that if one wheel blows, the system will shutdown the good wheel so it won't deflate. To protect the good wheel during a slow leak on the bad wheel, they say that the system will shutdown after detecting a 10 PSI difference between the two.
Larry, Debbie, Tiki and Tomi (Pugs) Retired Air Force
2003 Allure #30856
valves are turned inwards in the first place? There must be something I am missing. Even in the old days with inner tubes, the valve stems were turned to the inside. If there is a reason they can't/shouldn/t be rotated to the outside on tubeless tires, I'd sure like to know what it is.
Yahoo Message Number: 15423 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15423)
Robert, I believe the valves point that way on all 6 or 8 wheels. Thus the wheels can be placed in any position without having to change valves.
valves are turned inwards in the first place? There must be something I am missing. Even in the old days with inner tubes, the valve stems were turned to the inside. If there is a reason they can't/shouldn/t be rotated to the outside on tubeless tires, I'd sure like to know what it is.
Yahoo Message Number: 15425 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15425)
FWIW I have used Crossfire's in a commercial application for years.
They do make a difference in helping to extend tire mileage.
In our application mileage is not much of an issue. The biggest advantage for us would be keeping equal pressure between duals and then keeping heat buildup to a minimum.
They are much easier to check pressure and air up when needed.
Over the years I have found that after time they start to slow leak.
You can "rebuild" them by replacing the rubber "O" rings found at the end of the hoses as they go into the Crossfire body. They are then good for another several years.
Michael
'01 Intrigue #11224
Yahoo Message Number: 15439 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15439)
Thanks Mike! I agree about the limited mileage benefit the Crossfire will provide on MHs. The key benefit, as you point out, is to minimize heat build-up and in-turn minimize the opportunities for blow outs. Thanks again.
Larry, 2003 Allure #30856
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Yahoo Message Number: 15478 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15478)
No, Henk, they don't. The only valves that point to the inside are the outside dual wheels. Extenders are needed on the inside dual wheels, but straight ones will work fine. Same for the front wheels and the tag. Then, if the rubber 'cups' are placed in the hole in the wheel, they get adequate support to prevent movement and possible damage from same.
I presume it is necessary to remove the Pressure Pro caps in order to add/bleed air when necesssary? Have you havd any theft problems? I know they have locking devices available, so guess that would be a wise investment.
Bob Fuzak 2002 Magna #6148
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Yahoo Message Number: 15479 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15479)
It is all about perspective :-). Those outside dual wheels are also the only two that are facing in the other direction. Thus all the wheels have the valve point the same way (relative to the wheel), some wheels are mounted 180 degrees turned. Thus they're all interchangable with the valves pointing consistently the same way.
Yes, you could bleed by loosening the cap, but that bleeds too slowly.
Theft is not a problem (yet). I pressume if this product becomes more popular, theft can become a bigger issue.
Haven't heard about locking devices. That would be nice if that doesn't add to much extra weight or cost. Today, each caps costs around $15, lasting about 4-5 years.
Bob Fuzak 2002 Magna #6148
Yahoo Message Number: 21345 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21345)
Is there any dealers for Pressure Pro in the Donna, Texas area on this Yahoo Group- I would like to buy- Looking for somebody selling from his RV-
Stan vander ploeg
#2003 Intrigue #11556
Yahoo Message Number: 21346 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21346)
Hey Steve...............
I believe you can install it yourself, especially if you are a Dutchman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carl
Carl Niezing
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Yahoo Message Number: 21357 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21357)
I'm a Dutchman, and indeed no problem (geen enkel probleem).
Henk J. Bots, Magna #5824
Dutchman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yahoo Message Number: 29159 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/29159)
Has any one used this option from Pressure Pro and has it improved the signal- I loose the signal once in a while - but not bad
(copied from Web site)
RV Echo Repeater
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Ensure A Strong Signal and Reliable Reception
Now introducing the Doran PressurePro RV Echo Repeater. This optional accessory was created specifically for increased signal reliability.
For instance, if you have a Metal Skin RV and/or have an application over 55 feet, you may benefit from this product.
Easily installed in the rear interior of the RV, the RV Echo Repeater ensures a strong and reliable signal to the display in larger RV configurations.
Stan vander ploeg
#11556 Intrigue 03"
(w/fixed awning straps- raped strap around piece of aluminum plate as some one suggested- Thanks who ever that was)
Yahoo Message Number: 29161 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/29161)
Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Pressure ProWe had it on our SOB. Installed an antenna to help from loosing the signal and that sure helped. It seemed to work ok and luckily we did not need it to tell us we were having troubles. The units now should be much better than when we first got ours. It gave so many false readings we sent the whole works back. They in turn sent us a whole new and improved set up and it did ok.
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Sue,
'05, 42', Quad Slide Allure 31254 See where we are---
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Yahoo Message Number: 71218 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/71218)
I have the pressure pro system and it works great, however, the sensors on the car valve stems seem to be causing a balance issue. I have put the 1/2 oz stick on weights on the opposite side of the wheel from the sensor like pressure pro suggest and this seems to help slightly. I have three questions. Should I leave the sensors on the wheels all the time and just have the wheels rebalanced, taking care of the problem but wearing out the sensor batteries prematurely and exposing them to theft, or should I take them off when not using the coach and thus screwing up the balance issue again? Are the batteries activated by the motion of the wheels, thus saving battery life by storing them when not needed? Does the signal to the coach from the toad sensors get weaker as the batteries get weaker? I have a 40 ft. Coach without the repeater and everything works fine without one.
R. D. Vanderslice
Sob
Yahoo Message Number: 71219 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/71219)
R D,
Is it a new installation?
I have put them on two different vehicles and not had a balance or shaking problem until I drove to Alaska and back and then discovered that there was caked on mud on the inside of the wheel causing the unbalanced condition.
I take my sensors off when not in use for an extended period to save the batteries and there is no change in balance.
I also have a 40' coach and do not need the repeater.
John
05 Inspire
2010 Ford Escape
Yahoo Message Number: 71221 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/71221)
Yes it's a new install. Good to hear you have no balance problems. I had Smart Tire on my Allure, but not the toad. The toad was what I worried about most and it is very reassuring now to have a toad readout. I'll play around with the balance issue. Thanks John.
R. D Vanderslice
Sob
Yahoo Message Number: 71231 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/71231)
R D,
I sell the Pressure Pro and have never had an issue with balance. If your tires are balanced and you put the Sensors on, the weight of the Sensors will have no effect. I can have someone at Pressure Pro call you if that would help.
The Sensors continue to transmit unless you take them off. Once removed with no air pressure present, the transmitting stops and saves battery life. If the batteries in the Sensors get low, you will get a low battery signal at the Monitor.
Hope that helps.
Tom
Lifeline Batteries (http://trans-specialists.net)
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01 Magna 5999
Yahoo Message Number: 71232 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/71232)
I have the TST sensors and they weigh 3/4 oz. When I had my tires on my toad balanced, I did it without the sensors since I will drive the toad faster than I will tow it. At towing speeds (about 60 to 65), with the sensors on the tires I don't notice excessive vibration but if I have the sensors on at higher speeds, I do notice vibration from the wheel imbalance.
I'm not too worried about battery life. I feel these things are like laptop computers, when the battery gives up, it is time to buy new and take advantage of the new technology.
pete
2000 40' Magna #5892
Yahoo Message Number: 71236 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/71236)
Thanks Tom. I think what I need to do first is have my toad wheels balanced without the sensors. That is probably the first place to start. They may be a little off and the sensors may exaggerate the problem. Pete, thank you for your input also. What you said about driving the unattached toad at higher speed than when being pulled makes a lot of sense. The rubber valve stems seem to be too floppy, but I guess when they are revolving at high speed the centrifugal force keeps them steady? Pressure Pro says use the 1/2 oz. stick on weights, but that creates a different set of problems.
R.D. Vanderslice
Sob
Yahoo Message Number: 71237 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/71237)
RD...when you go to the balance shop inquire if they have a force balancer ? The latest and greatest in equipment. Another item to check are inner and outer tie rod ends for play. Reading your message there might be other places to look for a shake.
Have the tires been rotated ? I don't recall seeing the toad model so you could have standard wheel bearing or hub style. I really don't think the problem is with Pressure Pro. JMO AL
00 affinity
Yahoo Message Number: 71243 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/71243)
RD
I have had Pressure Pro for several years and no balancing problems. I take off my sensors when not towing.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Yahoo Message Number: 71267 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/71267)
Dan and Al, thanks for your input. It appears that no one really has a balancing problem on their toad using the Pressure Pro sensors so I am going to start with a rotation and rebalancing, then try the sensors again. I will let the group know the results in a few weeks when I get off the road. Thanks everyone.
R. D. Vanderslice
Sob