Yahoo Message Number: 15388 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15388)
Although we had the large MaxxAir covers installed over our Fantastic Fans, the FF's cover still closes when it rains or heavy nighttime humidity (we're right on the Gulf) gets on the sensor. Does anyone know how I can easily disable the sensor?
Dick (& Geri) Campagna (in Key West) '98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97
Yahoo Message Number: 15389 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15389)
Hi Dick -
Since your fix for my jumpy voltmeter worked so well try this:
Take off the MaxxAir covers (4 nuts as I recall) and simply wipe off the rain sensor. FF told me to try this when I asked them how to disconnect the sensor. Worked like a charm and I had exactly the same dew problem you have. BTW, they said I could simply cut the wires to the sensor if I wanted to but it hasn't been necessary.
Dave
'98 Allure 36 #30187 (currently for sale)
Yahoo Message Number: 15392 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15392)
"Dick Campagna",
I too had the problem. I cleaned the sensors with steel wool.
Undo one screw & clean both sides. That solved about 90% of the opening & closing. When I'm in an area like you are in I only open the cover about 1-2" that totally solved the issue for me. Been working 2 years since the cleaning.
Hope this helps.................
Steve
Intrigue #10673
Yahoo Message Number: 15397 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15397)
The good news for us is that our fans have a switch for turning off the rains sensor. The bad news is that I forgot to turn it back on last week and we had a little water on the kitchen floor. Once I get the covers on we should be good to go. I think I'll put up with the white ones and find a boat paint shop in Seattle who can do a professional job of painting them. With all the yachts in Seattle there must be somebody who can get the Sikkens paint.
Yahoo Message Number: 15403 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15403)
Dick, isn't there a disabling switch on your fans? All of the ones I've had do have such a switch up on the fan. It has red paint on it.
Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811
Yahoo Message Number: 15467 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15467)
While I believe you, I don't understand how wiping off the rain sensor will make it LESS sensitive. On the other hand, I don't understand how faucets work, either (just kidding). I guess I'll clean the sensors and report my results.
(Now if I only didn't have to get up on the roof to do it :-)
Dick (& Geri) Campagna (in Key West) '98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97
Yahoo Message Number: 15468 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15468)
Hi Dick -
I had the same question - the folks at FF explained that with the MaxxAir covers the volume and velocity of the air is less so dirt accumulates on the sensor. Once there, the dirt attracts the dew like a magnet - which causes the sensor to start acting funny (in a bad way!).
I confess to being so skeptical of this explaination that I took my wire cutters up on the roof along with a rag. I was very close to just cutting the wires because the sensors (a 1x4 inch printed circuit board) didn't "look" dirty. In the end I just cleaned them. That was a year ago and since then we've taken two multi-month trips and both fans have behaved.
Dave
'98 Allure 36 #30187 (currently for sale)
Yahoo Message Number: 15469 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15469)
Dick,
The rain sensors measure electrical resistance between a couple of teeth-shaped conductor pins on a small board. If it rains, the moisture makes the resistance smaller, and triggers the control logic into assuming it is raining (the flow of electrical current will increase with lower resistance).
When those conductor pins have grime between/on them, there is a tendency to report a higher level of moisture sooner. Keeping them clean prevents this.
Sorry, but you'll have to explain how a faucet works :-)
Yahoo Message Number: 15654 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15654)
My question is painting the satellite dish. It was installed on our coach when we bought it and sticks out like a sore thumb. Our coach is biege and maroon.
Is it simple just to get a spray can of paint for plastic and spray it, or is it more complicated? Thanks, for the info
The Livelys, 04 Allure
Yahoo Message Number: 15659 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15659)
We custome ordered a 2006 Affinity and faced the same issue. Call it vanity but I thought the white dome stuck out like a sore thumb too.
Carolyn Gsell at Country Coach said under no conditions would they paint the dome. They said the dealer could but they would not be held responsible. They said they have had too many issues with the domes being painted and that once it is painted the warranty is voided.
Something to do with the metallic paints interfering with the reception. I have yielded to their expertise and have decided that like it or not I will keep the dome white so that there are no issues with the reception or the warranty.
Todd and Carolyn
Evan and Price
2006 Country Coach Affinity #6559
Yahoo Message Number: 15666 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15666)
Painting a satellite dish will cause no problems. Also,I sure see a lot of painted domes.
Don
'02 Intrigue #11427
Yahoo Message Number: 15668 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15668)
Mine is painted - no problems!!
Hal Bjorklund 05 magna 6477
Yahoo Message Number: 15677 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/15677)
I have a dome covering my satellite dish and when it rains hard, I lose my signal. When I talked to King Dome personnel, they suggested rain-x and NO paint of any sort.
Carol
04 Inspire 51046
Yahoo Message Number: 65488 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65488)
Does anyone know where I can obtain the colors for my 2005 Inspire. We need to repair a damaged basement door. Thanks Tom
2005 Inspire # 51177
Yahoo Message Number: 65507 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65507)
Did your coach come with an expandable document folder? If so then the paint colors should be listed on that folder on the inside top flap. At least that was the case on my coach.
Ray
2000 Intrigue 11040
Yahoo Message Number: 65511 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65511)
Your coach paint is made by Sikkens with stores nationwide. There are 4 separate colors which you can find listed in the Country Coach information box or in the 3 ring binder.
If you can't find your list of colors then you can go to a Sikkens store and they have a book with cards of all their colors that has a punched hole in each color sample. Take this card and hold it up to your coach and you will get a perfect match.
Bob
2005 Inspire 51394
Yahoo Message Number: 65518 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65518)
I have 2 grey binders and a box with numerous pamphlets and manuels. No paint colors are in any of them. Thanks
Yahoo Message Number: 65522 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65522)
Did you look on the inside cover of the box?
George
'04 Inspire 51061
Yahoo Message Number: 65524 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65524)
The codes should be on the underside of the lid of the box. TWI 2004 intrigue 11731
Yahoo Message Number: 65526 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65526)
Tom, if you're unsuccessful finding the black Country Coach box containing the system files, send to the group your best description of the colors on your coach. There were only a couple (few) paint schemes for the 05 Inspire. Someone out here has the identical paint scheme and can send you the Sikkens numbers.
Jay
05 Inspire 51457 (Green and Grey)
Yahoo Message Number: 65530 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65530)
When I bought my coach (third owner) I got the two large binders, but not the folder - there was a file system in one of the drawers that had some brochures and information, but no paint codes. Body shops have color matching equipment that can come close enough you cannot tell the difference, and it will help if you tell them Silken (spelling?) paint, with a clear coat. I had my rear bumper repainted, and you cannot tell it was repainted, in any light. The only drawback is that now I need to wax the rest of the coach again.
I took one of the diesel cap doors off for them to send off and match.
Jack Nichols, 2003 Intrigue 11527
Yahoo Message Number: 65544 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65544)
I wish someone could do that for me. There are 5 colors on my 2004 Allure and I have the 5 touchup bottles that came with the coach that have what CC told me was the Sikkens point codes. They have long since dried up. I also had the box and verified at one time that they were the identical numbers to the touchup bottles.
Unfortunately they are not Sikkens paint codes. No one at Sikkens could recognize them as point codes. The closest they could guess was that they might be Book and Page numbers in a Sikkens sample book or some looked like they might be fleet codes.
The net result is that I have never been able to cross reference the paint codes and repainting is a hot or miss adventure. On my 2003 Allure the codes on the bottles were Sikkens paint codes and when a fast moving rock bit a rear panel door I got the paint from Sikkens and it was a perfect match. Oh well.
Don Seager
2004 Allure 31046
Yahoo Message Number: 65550 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65550)
Don
Guaranty in Junction City did not have any problem matching my paint colors. I would think that any of the paint shops that did contract painting for Country Coach would be able to match the colors. An ex CC painter is working for Oregon Motor Coach in Eugene and they do paint repairs.
Dan 2006 Allure 31348
Yahoo Message Number: 65552 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65552)
Dan,
Appreciate the idea, but I have thrashed this out with Sikkens themselves as well as two people on the group that work for Sikkens and no one could identify the number provided by CC as paint codes. As I mentioned I had no problem matching the numbers as long as they were Sikkens paint codes but the ones with my 2004 Allure are not. I mention it only as a caution for those that find the codes but have trouble with them. They may have a similar situation as I have.
Don Seager
2004 Allure 31046
Yahoo Message Number: 65553 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65553)
A reputable paint facility will have no problem matching your paint, I recently had paint repair at Creative Coach in Lakeland, Florida and they told me that they actually match it, to be sure it is done right, rather than accept a paint code from someone else. Their match was perfect on my repair and there is no difference between the repainted area and the surrounding paint.
Ray
2000 Intrigue 11040
Yahoo Message Number: 65554 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65554)
Try looking at the equipment list on the back of the bathroom mirror. They should be in the upper right hand corner if my memory serves me right.
Brian O'Day
06 INTRIGUE
Yahoo Message Number: 65555 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65555)
Jay thanks for the info. Contacted Kevin in Oregon who was able to end me the complete rundown for my coach. Thanks to all forum members that were able to assist me.
Tom
2005 Inspire #51177
Yahoo Message Number: 65557 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65557)
Tom:
The paint codes are listed in your owner literature. Also try the door in the bathrrom medicine cabine - lots of info there.
Hmm, you're one number before us - probably your coach was originally sold at the March 2004 FMCA Albuqueque show. First 5 2005 Inspires built were show coaches for that rally.
Bob (rthandren@...)
'05 Inspire 51178
Yahoo Message Number: 65558 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65558)
If you have both binders and the box they are in there somewhere - try looking for a cardboard document - that's what my info is on. As I recall there is an alphabetic list of the documents, paint code was on that.
Paint is mf'd by Sikkens.
Bob (rthandren@...)
'05 Inspire 51178
Yahoo Message Number: 65563 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65563)
Specialty Logistics in Oregon has all the paint codes, I am not at home now or I could give you there number.
Harvey 05 intrigue
Yahoo Message Number: 65571 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65571)
A Key Deer ran into side of my 07 Allure on Big Pine Key and I took it to Buddy Gregg ( before buddy Passed) and they matched paint without any trouble. This was after CC went under. I was thinking my paint codes were Sherwood williams. Not sure, matter of fact can't remember what I had for breakfast.
Yahoo Message Number: 65576 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65576)
Dan,
CC themselves could not supply me the paint codes 4 years ago when I contacted them. Why would Specialty Logistics be able to when CC could not. They gave me numbers but they are not Sikkens paint codes.
Don Seager
2004 Allure 31046
Yahoo Message Number: 65579 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65579)
Hello all
I have had touch up paint made at a NAPA auto parts store, find one that has a paint department and has a paint spectrometer, and take a part with the paint color you want,( refer panel, fuel filler door, heater compartment door) I have had good success in touching up small areas with this method .I even had them put the major color I needed into a spray can. You cannot match the color perfect , so its only good for small areas because the paint process used by CC is a cut and buff method with the clear coat mixed with the paint and sprayed all at one time. With the paint I used from Napa I also used a clear coat afterward. It gave the effect I wanted.
Jerry
2004 Inspire 51012
Yahoo Message Number: 65592 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65592)
Hope somebody can help us with paint codes too!! We are new to the club just bought this coach, 2003 32ft Intrigue. We looked everywhere no card with codes on it, not in the bath cabinet. nothing!!(http://mail.yimg.com/a/i/mesg/tsmileys2/17.gif)Here are some pictures if anybody has any codes that could help us out.
Thanks Randy
7938
Yahoo Message Number: 65618 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65618)
Post the numbers that you have. I'll do some research and see what I can come up with.
I'm a senior chemist for Akzo Nobel. Sikkens is the automotive refinish group of Akzo.
If their not Sikkens numbers, I still might be able to get you some info on where they come from.
Steve
95 Magna 5220
Yahoo Message Number: 65623 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65623)
Steve,
I won't put you through this again. A couple of years ago you made the same offer to me when I could not find any information on the numbers that were both on my paint bottles and the top cover of the file box.
You were not able to identify any of the numbers as Sikkens paint codes and I know that you tried. With your knowledge of the subject I gave up. Matching remains a hit or miss proposition.
Thanks,
Don Seager
2004 Allure 31046
Yahoo Message Number: 65625 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65625)
Don;
Years ago there was small company in the northeast that would do custom color matches, I don't remember the name, Possibly someone in the group would remember.
I can match the colors, a real pain in the butt. I'd need a sample of some sort that I can read on the color spectrophotomer. A lot of the topcoats were metallic, some even pearlescent pigments. The minimum size would be one inch by one inch.
Steve
95 Magna 5220
Yahoo Message Number: 65639 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65639)
My Son-inlaw is a certified
Lexus painter here in Oklahoma (in fact the only one) and he has a Color Eye Camera that will give paint codes for three and four stage paint jobs, including pearls. If you checked your higher end paint shops out they may have a similar camera that they can bring to your Coach. He has used this camera for me and it does a great job.
Kevin Burns
00 Affinity 5865
Yahoo Message Number: 65640 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65640)
I went through the paint number confusion a couple of years ago. After a discussion with the CC paint supervisor and the Sikkens rep I found out that the CC paint numbers came out of a CC book with a unique CC code system. Working with the supervisor and rep I was able to get the automotive reference numbers for my particular colors. BOB 06Intrigue 12047
Yahoo Message Number: 65646 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65646)
? Bingo, It took me some time to find out that my so called paint codes are actually book and page numbers in a book that CC used in selecting colors for coaches. However when I talked again to CC tech support they played dumb about knowing how to get access to the book or even what to ask for. You had a better experience as CC made no offer for me to discuss it with their paint supervisor.
It was Steve on this group that figured out that the codes must be book and page numbers but now I know why he could not get any further. The book was unique to CC.
Now I agree that Specialty Logistics may be able to help if they ended up with a book. or whoever else may have one. Each time I get involved with the issue I get a little closer to the real solution, that being paint code numbers that I can take to Sikkens. I appreciate the other solutions that everyone has offered and I likely will end up using one of them someday. I do not have a paint matching problem other than touchup bottles. I mentioned my situation for those that might run into trouble using the numbers on the bottle or on the cover of the box of manuals. CC was not consistent with it and now I have found at least one other owner with the same problem.
Thanks
Don Seager
2004 Allure 31046
Yahoo Message Number: 65648 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65648)
what kind of paint are they using -Sherwin Williams, Depont, what works on our coaches?? They have been clear coated, but what brand is it?
Randy
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Yahoo Message Number: 65649 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65649)
The brand is SIKKENS world wide company
Yahoo Message Number: 65658 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65658)
CC used Sikkens paint products.
Don Seager
2004 Allure 31046
Yahoo Message Number: 65721 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/65721)
While paint codes are handy a well equipped paint shop today has an infra red gun that they can point at the vehicle paint and it will give them the necessary paint code mix. Their computer mixer will match the paint perfectly. Some shops prefer this method over using factory paint codes as if used correctly it can be more accurate.