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We have the in-dash Pioneer DVD-based system installed in the > Magna. It does okay, but has had some position difficulties in

West Texas and Eastern Arizona, when routed on I-10. It's database > is quite extensive, and can be easily accessed by multiple

I like the ease of typing in a RV Park's phone number and getting > multiple routings. The GPS is only two dimensional, lacking an > altitude output. The inertial navigation, backed up by the GPS, > results in an "always on track" capability.

I also use Delorme's Street Atlas 2005 in our Dell notebook, along > with Delorme's EarthMate GPS receiver on a USB connection. It sits > on the dash and provides a better display and more information,

elevation. It allows trip planning away from the driver's seat,

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We like the Pioneer in our 05 Intrigue LE but......

it has a problem giving good directions (for a 40 ft coach) It

us down the shortest route which is many times through downtown

the main highways) In other words it would be much better if the > Pioneer GPS would follow truck routes not down the city streets.
Our CoPilot software on our lap top routes much better and keeps

off the city streets. It also will find Diesel Fuel, while the > Pioneer will not. The 2 main problems with the CoPilot is the lack

a good voice direction prompt, which sounds like a computer when

talks and the data inpute leaves a bit to be desired.

Russ and Jean

05 Intrigue LE 11883

[quote author=sawbuck203"

>

> We have the in-dash Pioneer DVD-based system installed in the > > Magna. It does okay, but has had some position difficulties in > both

> West Texas and Eastern Arizona, when routed on I-10. It's

is quite extensive, and can be easily accessed by multiple > methods.

> I like the ease of typing in a RV Park's phone number and

multiple routings. The GPS is only two dimensional, lacking an > > altitude output. The inertial navigation, backed up by the GPS, > > results in an "always on track" capability.
>

> I also use Delorme's Street Atlas 2005 in our Dell notebook,

with Delorme's EarthMate GPS receiver on a USB connection. It

on the dash and provides a better display and more information, > like

> elevation. It allows trip planning away from the driver's seat, > and

> I have files from all of our travels from 2002 on. Street Atlas > > allows construction of individual draw layers - I have one

Which version of Copilot do you use that shows diesel stops? I

the Laptop 8 version and am disappointed in the lack of detail > available on the POI's and the non display of them in the Canada > database. In particular, finding diesel fuel at a truck stop.
Small gas stations are a bit too tight to manuever in with almost

ft of vehicle and towed.

I have DeLorme SA 2005, MS Streets and Trips and use a Garmin

as well as the new Copilot GPS receiver.

The Copilot GPS receiver is slower at acquiring the sats than the > Garmin. I like the live position feature that Copilot has to send > and receive GPS position reports and short messages with an

connection. Of course many of us do not have a constant internet > connecting while in motion. So this feature is really useless to

since I use ham radio to interface internet and GPS navigation data > while I am in a fixed location as well as in motion.

Delorme has some great features but has had problems with sub > contractors in providing POI databases. SA2005 has less POI detail > than earlier versions because of it. I have been using Delorme SA > since version 5. I like the capability to be able to edit maps,

notes and flags as well as build layers of data to be displayed.
Seems like when Delorme is doing a new release, there is always > something they are taking out or changing for the worse. their > advertizing leads you to believe that you are getting what you > currently have plus the new added features. They never tell you > what they are taking out.

MS S&T has some great detail, especially in Canada. However, the > ease of setting up routing and adding your own layers of

in either very cumbersome or non-existant.

All in all they each have their own good and bad features.

Jim Hughes

2000 Allure #30511

[quote author=dosgoldens"

>

> We like the Pioneer in our 05 Intrigue LE but......
> it has a problem giving good directions (for a 40 ft coach) It > takes

> us down the shortest route which is many times through downtown > (off

> the main highways) In other words it would be much better if the > > Pioneer GPS would follow truck routes not down the city streets.
> Our CoPilot software on our lap top routes much better and keeps > us

> off the city streets. It also will find Diesel Fuel, while the > > Pioneer will not. The 2 main problems with the CoPilot is the

of

> a good voice direction prompt, which sounds like a computer when > it

> talks and the data inpute leaves a bit to be desired.
>

> Russ and Jean

> 05 Intrigue LE 11883
>
>

[quote author=sawbuck203"
>]
> >

> > We have the in-dash Pioneer DVD-based system installed in the > > > Magna. It does okay, but has had some position difficulties in > > both

> > West Texas and Eastern Arizona, when routed on I-10. It's > database

> > is quite extensive, and can be easily accessed by multiple > > methods.

> > I like the ease of typing in a RV Park's phone number and > getting

> > multiple routings. The GPS is only two dimensional, lacking an > > > altitude output. The inertial navigation, backed up by the

> results in an "always on track" capability.
> >

> > I also use Delorme's Street Atlas 2005 in our Dell notebook, > along

> > with Delorme's EarthMate GPS receiver on a USB connection. It > sits

> > on the dash and provides a better display and more information, > > like

> > elevation. It allows trip planning away from the driver's

and

> > I have files from all of our travels from 2002 on. Street

> allows construction of individual draw layers - I have one > locating

> > RV Parks where we stay. Also, you can make custom map tags, > > > allowing personalized annotation. Lastly, I can output printed > > > directions/maps for my spouse...
> >

> > I miss the 120vAC recepticle up front, as we had in our

>

Which version of Copilot do you use that shows
diesel stops? I have

the Laptop 8 version and am disappointed in the lack
of detail

available on the POI's and the non display of them
in the Canada

database. In particular, finding diesel fuel at a
truck stop.

Small gas stations are a bit too tight to manuever
in with almost 65

ft of vehicle and towed.

I have DeLorme SA 2005, MS Streets and Trips and use
a Garmin GPSIII

as well as the new Copilot GPS receiver.

The Copilot GPS receiver is slower at acquiring the
sats than the

Garmin. I like the live position feature that
Copilot has to send

and receive GPS position reports and short messages
with an internet

connection. Of course many of us do not have a
constant internet

connecting while in motion. So this feature is
really useless to me

since I use ham radio to interface internet and GPS
navigation data

while I am in a fixed location as well as in motion.

Delorme has some great features but has had problems
with sub

contractors in providing POI databases. SA2005 has
less POI detail

than earlier versions because of it. I have been
using Delorme SA

since version 5. I like the capability to be able
to edit maps, add

notes and flags as well as build layers of data to
be displayed.

Seems like when Delorme is doing a new release,
there is always

something they are taking out or changing for the
worse. their

advertizing leads you to believe that you are
getting what you

currently have plus the new added features. They
never tell you

what they are taking out.

MS S&T has some great detail, especially in Canada.
However, the

ease of setting up routing and adding your own
layers of information

in either very cumbersome or non-existant.

All in all they each have their own good and bad
features.

Jim Hughes

2000 Allure #30511

> -

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Bruce,

If you've never used a good gps system you are not missing > anything. If you use a good gps system for a short period you'll > never go back. I only use a map for trip planning & never worry

being lost. It is kinda like once you have diesel it would be

Bruce,

If you've never used a good gps system you are not missing > anything. If you use a good gps system for a short period you'll > never go back. I only use a map for trip planning & never worry

being lost. It is kinda like once you have diesel it would be