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Title: House Battery replacement suggestions ??
Post by: Matsprt1984 on May 16, 2005, 12:05:07 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 16536 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16536)
Well it appears that the time has come to replace the house batteries.
I have read numerous posts on batteries. What is the current consensus on replacement ??

I have a 01' Intrigue that has 2 12-volt batteries in it now. I do not want to "re-wire" for 2 6-volt batteries. I have considered AGM's but am not convinced that there is a positive return for the additional cost.
So I think it will be just another set of 12-volt deep cycle batteries. Any arguments to the contrary ?? If not, any brands seem to be holding up better than the others ?? Thanks,

Michael

01' Intrigue #11224
Title: Re: House Battery replacement suggestions ??
Post by: Czecman@aol Com on May 16, 2005, 12:14:55 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 16537 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16537)
I think the AGM are worth the extra cost.
Have you looked at all the pluses, charge faster, hold charge longer, no maintance, if you shop around you can get them for about $400.00 ea Charlie & Lorraine Zecman
02 Magna 6162
Title: Re: House Battery replacement suggestions ??
Post by: Egonschlottmann on May 16, 2005, 01:53:35 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 16539 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16539)
I am with Charlie on this one. I replaced my original cranking battery after having it for two years with a Lifeline AGM. Then I replace my coach batteries with the Lifeline AGM about three years ago. No water to add, long lasting charge etc. etc. Would do it again without any resevation. When one puts the kind of money in these coaches what is another $800-$1100. To be honest I do not remember how mine cost but I believe it was a little less that 400 a piece.

Egon

'99 Allure #30321
'02 Tahoe Z71
Title: Re: House Battery replacement suggestions ??
Post by: Matsprt1984 on May 16, 2005, 07:35:59 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 16542 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16542)
OK, if I go with the AGM style batteries do I have to alter my battery compartment ?? It looks like Lifeline AGM batteries are about a half-inch longer than factory installed batteries but it is hard to know for sure until one removes the old batteries.
Someone out there done this before ?? Looking at the weight of these things I DO NOT want to move them unnecessarily.

Michael

01' Intrigue #11224

Quote from: egonschlottmann
Title: Re: House Battery replacement suggestions ??
Post by: Czecman@aol Com on May 16, 2005, 08:43:48 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 16545 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16545)
The AGM should fit in the same rack you have, where you buy the batteries they should install them for you, and dispose of your old.
Charlie Zecman
02 Magna 6162
Title: Re: House Battery replacement suggestions ??
Post by: Bill Gabler on May 16, 2005, 10:03:09 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 16547 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16547)
Michael,

You can have all 4 batteries replaced at any CCI rally for around $500, of course that is the original type and they install them and haul away the old ones. Don't know what they charge for AGMs but a rally would be a good place to do them also since you can have any reprograming done by CC.

Bill G. 2005 Magna #6425.
Title: Re: House Battery replacement suggestions ??
Post by: James M. Green on May 16, 2005, 10:52:36 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 16548 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16548)
--Michael;

Please consider the following before laying out all that money for AGM or new 8D batteries. People tried to convince me about ganged 6 volt units and my attitude was almost like yours. Not so after some research and seeing in another coach what was necessary to make the change.

No other batteries are as much bang for the buck as the golf cart type units.. That said I compared the ampherehours. I may be off a bit but the standard 8D is about 105 at 75 amps. The standard golf cart around 110 at 75 but for about $85.00 each (4x85=$340.00) plus a few cable modifications you are ahaed of the game. Now the really good news the heavy duty golf cart battery is about 140 at 75. This means you can have about 35-40 percent more capacity than when you had 8 D units as standardly furnished by Country coach. AGM last about the same amount of time as properly maintained flooded lead acid. If you want a picture of what the 4-6 volt units look like in the bay I will be glad to send a picture.

There are also 180 amp versions but they are 1 inch bigger and would require tray modification to do.

Interstate Batteries have the standard and heavy Duty. Their batteries are manufactured by Johnson Controls which is the same as what I think Less Schwab sells at CCI rallies
ard

James M. Green Intrigue 11021 "Rollingghetto"

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Well it appears that the time has come to replace the house batteries.
I have read numerous posts on batteries. What is the current consensus > on replacement ??

I have a 01' Intrigue that has 2 12-volt batteries in it now. I do not > want to "re-wire" for 2 6-volt batteries. I have considered AGM's but > am not convinced that there is a positive return for the additional

cost.
Title: Re: House Battery replacement suggestions ??
Post by: Travman100_4 on May 17, 2005, 09:32:55 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 16552 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16552)
I replaced my two house batteries with 6 golf cart batteries so got extra capacity and total cost was only around $420.00 for all 6 batteries plus the cost of the cables to tie the batteries together.
After two years the batteries are still functioning as they should.
At the 5.5 year point my chassis battery is about to give up the ghost and I will probably replace that one with a $99.00 Champion from Sams Club, it has greater cranking amps capability than did the original issue battery from Les Schwab at half the cost.

Ray

2000 Intrigue

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OK, if I go with the AGM style batteries do I have to alter my

battery

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compartment ?? It looks like Lifeline AGM batteries are about a > half-inch longer than factory installed batteries but it is hard to > know for sure until one removes the old batteries.
Someone out there done this before ?? > Looking at the weight of these things I DO NOT want to move them > unnecessarily.

Michael

01' Intrigue #11224

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> I am with Charlie on this one. I replaced my original cranking > > battery after having it for two years with a Lifeline AGM. Then I > > replace my coach batteries with the Lifeline AGM about three

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ago. No water to add, long lasting charge etc. etc. Would do it > > again without any resevation. When one puts the kind of money in

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coaches what is another $800-$1100. To be honest I do not

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how mine cost but I believe it was a little less that 400 a

piece.

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> '99 Allure #30321
> '02 Tahoe Z71
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> > I think the AGM are worth the extra cost.
> > Have you looked at all the pluses, charge faster, hold charge > > longer, no

> > maintance, if you shop around you can get them for about

$400.00 ea
Title: Re: House Battery replacement suggestions ??
Post by: Andy Ring on May 17, 2005, 10:12:56 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 16555 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16555)
I would like to vote for T105 Golf cart batteries. I have used them and had good luck. Also, I have met others who have used the same batteries with solar for up to 10 years before replaceing them.

Andy

02 Allure

Quote from: matsprt1984
Well it appears that the time has come to replace the house batteries.
I have read numerous posts on batteries. What is the current consensus > on replacement ??

I have a 01' Intrigue that has 2 12-volt batteries in it now. I do not > want to "re-wire" for 2 6-volt batteries. I have considered AGM's but > am not convinced that there is a positive return for the additional

cost.
Title: Re: House Battery replacement suggestions ??
Post by: Joe Pehoushek on May 19, 2005, 11:56:55 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 16580 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16580)
Michael

If you really want top-of-the-line lead acid batteries, take look at "Rolls-Surette", considered to be the premier, at least by live aboard cruising yacht owners to power their house battery circuits.
In lead acid batteries you pay for the pounds of lead. A Rolls #12HHG6-8D weighs 183 lbs wet, has an honest 275 amp hr for 20 hrs and comes with a 7 year warranty. Be prepared to pay $$.... on my live-aboard cruising boat 15 years ago I paid around $250-300 each.
I carried four of them. Don't know what they cost now.

Check out their web site.
Joe

Allure 36 #31031

Currently at Salt Lake City KOA

Quote from: matsprt1984
Well it appears that the time has come to replace the house

batteries.

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I have read numerous posts on batteries. What is the current

consensus

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on replacement ??

I have a 01' Intrigue that has 2 12-volt batteries in it now. I do

not

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want to "re-wire" for 2 6-volt batteries. I have considered AGM's

but

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am not convinced that there is a positive return for the
additional cost.

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So I think it will be just another set of 12-volt deep cycle > batteries. Any arguments to the contrary ?? If not, any brands

seem to