Yahoo Message Number: 16553 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16553)
I had a strange thing happen while driving my 2000 Intrigue this last weekend. I would appreciate any insight anyone can give me into what it could be.
I was driving up the Grapevine on I5 in California, heading south.
After some heavy climbing, things had leveled off, and I came around a corner and there were workers on the side of the road, so I slowed down. Upon attempting to accelerate, I had no response, and I looked at the Silverleaf and noticed my torque was dropping. I frantically started downshifting, but the torque was still dropping. Finally, the Silverleaf showed me in first gear, with zero torque, despite my applying full throttle. I looked out the rear view mirror and black smoke was POURING out the exhaust.
The sensation was as if the transmission was in a higher gear, even though the Silverleaf indicated first. It was as if the engine was severely lugging down. I managed to coast to the side of the road, where I put it in neutral and set the parking brake. Even idling, it was smoking, but less and less. Finally, after about thirty seconds, it was idling normally. I put it in drive and pulled out, and everything was normal. Torque climbed right up, and it was as if nothing had happened.
If I had been in a place where I could not get off the road, I would have been in trouble. This was scary.
I checked the Silverleaf for any engine diagnostics, and there were no errors. I continued on my trip with no further difficulties.
Anyone have any ideas? FYI, I have the Cummins 350 IHC engine with Allison MD transmission.
Yahoo Message Number: 16554 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16554)
We had exactly the same thing happen a few years ago on a 95 Magna. The problem, at least for us, was a stuck valve on the Pac brake. We had to replace the valve - I remember the feeling you described (and the black smoke) all too well.
Diana Powell
2004 Intrigue #11705
Yahoo Message Number: 16564 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16564)
You can be sure the problem is in your PacBrake. The butterfly valve can stick and cause this problem. I had a 2000 Intrigue with this problem and had it happen on a two-lane crooked road in nothern Arkansas. What a helpless feeling! I found that by rocking the transmission from R to D I could finally break it loose. Cummins actually replaced my fuel pump under warranty before we found the real culprit.
Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811
Yahoo Message Number: 16565 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16565)
Definitely a stuck Pac brake -- probably sticks only when hot, as you should be able to see it quickly cycle when you watch it and have someone else turn the ignition key on (no need to start engine). I had it stick after a long upgrade, then a short downgrade with the Pacbrake on, followed by the failing upgrade on two different occasions, until I started regular --required-- lubrication of the Pac brake at least every year. Pac Brake sells the lube in a small squeeze bottle. Frightning experience, when it happens.
Herb
2002 Allure #30690
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Yahoo Message Number: 16569 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/16569)
I had precisely the same thing happen to me several years ago on SOB with a Cummins C8.3. I was climbing a grade, at high elevation with exhaust brake on, but of course, not deployed because I was all the way into the throttle. Something happened that forced a slow down and thus an acctuation of the exhaust brake. Then, had no power and much black smoke. Sat for a moment, smoke cleared and away I went.
Problem is that high exhaust gas temps cause slight deformations in the exhaust brake so that when deployed it sticks closed. This results in rich mixture and black smoke. Stuck brake releases when cooled and off you go.
I suggest that you lube the exhaust brake per specs and hope that helps/
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