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We just purchased a NEW 2004 42' Intrigue Ovation. The Allison

over heated and derated itself to 4th gear. CC proposes a "fix"

different trans cooler, different fan and motor, new hydralic

lines, different radiator grill and new air intake, ducting and

>

I am looking for owners of Magna and Intrigue chassis with the Cat

rated at 525 HP with Allison 4000 whether you have had trouble or

I understand there are over one hundred Magnas and over a dozen > Intrigues affected. Only two have been modified. Ours will be

We just purchased a NEW 2004 42' Intrigue Ovation. The Allison 4000 > over heated and derated itself to 4th gear. CC proposes a "fix" with

different trans cooler, different fan and motor, new hydralic fluid > lines, different radiator grill and new air intake, ducting and

>

I am looking for owners of Magna and Intrigue chassis with the Cat 13 > rated at 525 HP with Allison 4000 whether you have had trouble or

We just purchased a NEW 2004 42' Intrigue Ovation. The Allison

over heated and derated itself to 4th gear. CC proposes a "fix"

different trans cooler, different fan and motor, new hydralic

lines, different radiator grill and new air intake, ducting and

>

I am looking for owners of Magna and Intrigue chassis with the Cat

rated at 525 HP with Allison 4000 whether you have had trouble or

I understand there are over one hundred Magnas and over a dozen > Intrigues affected. Only two have been modified. Ours will be

> We had our '05 Intrigue 42' Ovation upgraded in March at Beaudry

by the Beaudry mechanic and one of the CC mechanics. We never had > any overheating before the upgrade but we only drove in cold > weather. The transmission temps hit 225 or so on the trip from WA > to AZ in January. Since the upgrade I never see more than 216 on > the tranny unless we get stuck in traffic and then I shift into > neutral a lot and the temps stay down. Engine temps run up to

210 max (long grade in hot weather) and then the fan kicks in and > the temp drops to 192. Normal down the road driving, the engine > will hit 204 and then drop to 192 then up to 204 and back to 192, > etc. The MPG seems to have increased a little also since the new > intake ducting was done. Our only beef was that the new intake is > stainless steal instead of painted to match the coach. The

grill is the same they are putting on the new '06 Intrigue.

Bob

'05 Intrigue LE #11872

[quote author=joyce36526"

> We just purchased a NEW 2004 42' Intrigue Ovation. The Allison > 4000

> over heated and derated itself to 4th gear. CC proposes a "fix" > with a

> different trans cooler, different fan and motor, new hydralic > fluid

> lines, different radiator grill and new air intake, ducting and > filter.
>

> I am looking for owners of Magna and Intrigue chassis with the

13

> rated at 525 HP with Allison 4000 whether you have had trouble

Bob,

Sounds like your data is very similar to mine. However, we did > overheat 3 times with some pretty good coolant spray on the toad.

We leave Phoenix (111 degress today) for Santa Fe, New Mexico on > Saturday. So hope to get a real good idea of the performance in

(very hot) conditions on grade to 8000 feet or so.

I too have the stainless steel intake, wish it was painted but > doesn't look all that bad with the silver/grey paint scheme we

Ron

[quote author=Bob Stephens"

> We had our '05 Intrigue 42' Ovation upgraded in March at Beaudry > RV

> by the Beaudry mechanic and one of the CC mechanics. We never

any overheating before the upgrade but we only drove in cold > > weather. The transmission temps hit 225 or so on the trip from

to AZ in January. Since the upgrade I never see more than 216

the tranny unless we get stuck in traffic and then I shift into > > neutral a lot and the temps stay down. Engine temps run up to > about

> 210 max (long grade in hot weather) and then the fan kicks in

the temp drops to 192. Normal down the road driving, the

will hit 204 and then drop to 192 then up to 204 and back to

etc. The MPG seems to have increased a little also since the

intake ducting was done. Our only beef was that the new intake

stainless steal instead of painted to match the coach. The > radiator

> grill is the same they are putting on the new '06 Intrigue.
>
> Bob

> '05 Intrigue LE #11872
>
>
>
>
>

[quote author=joyce36526"
>]
> > We just purchased a NEW 2004 42' Intrigue Ovation. The Allison > > 4000

> > over heated and derated itself to 4th gear. CC proposes

with a

> > different trans cooler, different fan and motor, new hydralic > > fluid

> > lines, different radiator grill and new air intake, ducting

filter.
> >

> > I am looking for owners of Magna and Intrigue chassis with the > Cat
> 13

> > rated at 525 HP with Allison 4000 whether you have had trouble > or
> not.

> > I understand there are over one hundred Magnas and over a

> It will be nice to hear how the cooling performs heading to Santa > Fe. We haven't pulled any long hills in hot weather yet. We're > headed back to Washington from Michigan the middle of July and

probably see some warm weather then. Before we do that though we > have to get the dash air fixed as it stopped cooling on the way > here. If its not one thing its another.

PS How well does your Jake brake perform. Ours doesn't seem to

any differently no matter which setting we use. It always seems > like we are only getting two cylinders worth of braking.

Bob

[quote author=ron930cab"

> Bob,
>

> Sounds like your data is very similar to mine. However, we did > > overheat 3 times with some pretty good coolant spray on the toad.
>

> We leave Phoenix (111 degress today) for Santa Fe, New Mexico on > > Saturday. So hope to get a real good idea of the performance in > hot

> (very hot) conditions on grade to 8000 feet or so.
>

> I too have the stainless steel intake, wish it was painted but > > doesn't look all that bad with the silver/grey paint scheme we > have.
>
> Ron
>
>
>

[quote author=Bob Stephens"
>]
> > We had our '05 Intrigue 42' Ovation upgraded in March at

RV

> > by the Beaudry mechanic and one of the CC mechanics. We never > had

> > any overheating before the upgrade but we only drove in cold > > > weather. The transmission temps hit 225 or so on the trip

WA

> > to AZ in January. Since the upgrade I never see more than 216 > on

> > the tranny unless we get stuck in traffic and then I shift

> neutral a lot and the temps stay down. Engine temps run up to > > about

> > 210 max (long grade in hot weather) and then the fan kicks in > and

> > the temp drops to 192. Normal down the road driving, the > engine

> > will hit 204 and then drop to 192 then up to 204 and back to > 192,

> > etc. The MPG seems to have increased a little also since the > new

> > intake ducting was done. Our only beef was that the new

is

> > stainless steal instead of painted to match the coach. The > > radiator

> > grill is the same they are putting on the new '06 Intrigue.
> >
> > Bob

> > '05 Intrigue LE #11872
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

[quote author=joyce36526"
> >]
> > > We just purchased a NEW 2004 42' Intrigue Ovation. The

> 4000

> > > over heated and derated itself to 4th gear. CC proposes > a "fix"
> > with a

> > > different trans cooler, different fan and motor, new

> fluid

> > > lines, different radiator grill and new air intake, ducting > and

> > filter.
> > >

> > > I am looking for owners of Magna and Intrigue chassis with

Cat
> > 13

> > > rated at 525 HP with Allison 4000 whether you have had

or
> > not.

> > > I understand there are over one hundred Magnas and over a > dozen

> > > Intrigues affected. Only two have been modified. Ours will

Bob

As to the jake brake, there was another post (not sure if it was > you). I have driven the coach just enough to know how most things > work, but not enough to know for sure how they behave. Mine seems > to have 3 seperate braking "levels" which is how it is supposed to > work as I understand it. Performance in the 3rd (highest)

thrusts you forward in the seat so I go from position to position

minimize the "impact".

Do you have the Panasonic GPS? While I'm an engineer and pretty > fluent audio/video hobbiest, it's the one thing that I seem to

the hardest time keeping myself "trained" on.

I'll post results of my hill climbs when we return. Our toad is a > land rover at 5K lbs, should be a good test.

Ron

2004 Intrigue 42
11849

[quote author=Bob Stephens"

> It will be nice to hear how the cooling performs heading to

Fe. We haven't pulled any long hills in hot weather yet. We're > > headed back to Washington from Michigan the middle of July and > will

> probably see some warm weather then. Before we do that though

have to get the dash air fixed as it stopped cooling on the way > > here. If its not one thing its another.
>

> PS How well does your Jake brake perform. Ours doesn't seem to > work

> any differently no matter which setting we use. It always seems > > like we are only getting two cylinders worth of braking.
>
> Bob
>
>
>

[quote author=ron930cab"
>]
> > Bob,
> >

> > Sounds like your data is very similar to mine. However, we

> overheat 3 times with some pretty good coolant spray on the

>

> > We leave Phoenix (111 degress today) for Santa Fe, New Mexico

> Saturday. So hope to get a real good idea of the performance

hot

> > (very hot) conditions on grade to 8000 feet or so.
> >

> > I too have the stainless steel intake, wish it was painted but > > > doesn't look all that bad with the silver/grey paint scheme we > > have.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> >

[quote author=Bob Stephens"
> >]
> > > We had our '05 Intrigue 42' Ovation upgraded in March at > Beaudry
> > RV

> > > by the Beaudry mechanic and one of the CC mechanics. We

had

> > > any overheating before the upgrade but we only drove in cold > > > > weather. The transmission temps hit 225 or so on the trip > from
> WA

> > > to AZ in January. Since the upgrade I never see more than

on

> > > the tranny unless we get stuck in traffic and then I shift > into

> > > neutral a lot and the temps stay down. Engine temps run up

> about

> > > 210 max (long grade in hot weather) and then the fan kicks

and

> > > the temp drops to 192. Normal down the road driving, the > > engine

> > > will hit 204 and then drop to 192 then up to 204 and back to > > 192,

> > > etc. The MPG seems to have increased a little also since

new

> > > intake ducting was done. Our only beef was that the new > intake
> is

> > > stainless steal instead of painted to match the coach. The > > > radiator

> > > grill is the same they are putting on the new '06 Intrigue.
> > >
> > > Bob

> > > '05 Intrigue LE #11872
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

[quote author=joyce36526"
> > >]
> > > > We just purchased a NEW 2004 42' Intrigue Ovation. The > Allison
> > > 4000

> > > > over heated and derated itself to 4th gear. CC proposes > > a "fix"
> > > with a

> > > > different trans cooler, different fan and motor, new > hydralic
> > > fluid

> > > > lines, different radiator grill and new air intake,

> I definitely don't have any "thrust forward in the seat". Yes, I > was the other poster on the Jake, we're having it looked at by > Holland Motor homes on July 7th and also have a factory appointment > on Aug 15 if Holland can't fix it. We have the Panasonic GPS but

don't use it. Besides being hard to use, it has a bad habit of > sending us down roads that are better for sports cars than 42' > motorhomes with a toad. We use our Garmin iQue 3600 for routing.
It is usable in the coach, in the toad, hiking, or canoeing. It > doubles as my PDA so I can store appointments, contacts, etc. You > can select a contact and get a route to it. You can also select > what type of vehicle you are driving and it will route

We tell it we are a truck when driving the coach and it is pretty > good at keeping us out of tight situations. The same software is > used on the Garmin 2600 series of dashmount GPS.

Bob

'05 Intrigue LE #11872

[quote author=ron930cab"

> Bob
>

> As to the jake brake, there was another post (not sure if it was > > you). I have driven the coach just enough to know how most

work, but not enough to know for sure how they behave. Mine

to have 3 seperate braking "levels" which is how it is supposed

work as I understand it. Performance in the 3rd (highest) > position

> thrusts you forward in the seat so I go from position to position > to

> minimize the "impact".
>

> Do you have the Panasonic GPS? While I'm an engineer and pretty > > fluent audio/video hobbiest, it's the one thing that I seem to > have

> the hardest time keeping myself "trained" on.
>

> I'll post results of my hill climbs when we return. Our toad is

land rover at 5K lbs, should be a good test.
>
> Ron

> 2004 Intrigue 42
> 11849
>
>
>

[quote author=Bob Stephens"
>]
> > It will be nice to hear how the cooling performs heading to > Santa

> > Fe. We haven't pulled any long hills in hot weather yet.

> headed back to Washington from Michigan the middle of July and > > will

> > probably see some warm weather then. Before we do that though > we

> > have to get the dash air fixed as it stopped cooling on the way > > > here. If its not one thing its another.
> >

> > PS How well does your Jake brake perform. Ours doesn't seem to > > work

> > any differently no matter which setting we use. It always

> like we are only getting two cylinders worth of braking.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >

[quote author=ron930cab"
> >]
> > > Bob,
> > >

> > > Sounds like your data is very similar to mine. However, we > did

> > > overheat 3 times with some pretty good coolant spray on the > toad.
> > >

> > > We leave Phoenix (111 degress today) for Santa Fe, New Mexico > on

> > > Saturday. So hope to get a real good idea of the performance > in

> > hot

> > > (very hot) conditions on grade to 8000 feet or so.
> > >

> > > I too have the stainless steel intake, wish it was painted

> > doesn't look all that bad with the silver/grey paint scheme

> have.
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > >
> > >

[quote author=Bob Stephens"
> > >]
> > > > We had our '05 Intrigue 42' Ovation upgraded in March at > > Beaudry
> > > RV

> > > > by the Beaudry mechanic and one of the CC mechanics. We > never
> > had

> > > > any overheating before the upgrade but we only drove in

> > > weather. The transmission temps hit 225 or so on the trip > > from
> > WA

> > > > to AZ in January. Since the upgrade I never see more than > 216
> > on

> > > > the tranny unless we get stuck in traffic and then I shift > > into

> > > > neutral a lot and the temps stay down. Engine temps run up > to

> > > about

> > > > 210 max (long grade in hot weather) and then the fan kicks > in

> > and

> > > > the temp drops to 192. Normal down the road driving, the > > > engine

> > > > will hit 204 and then drop to 192 then up to 204 and back

> 192,

> > > > etc. The MPG seems to have increased a little also since > the
> > new

> > > > intake ducting was done. Our only beef was that the new > > intake
> > is

> > > > stainless steal instead of painted to match the coach. The > > > > radiator

> > > > grill is the same they are putting on the new '06 Intrigue.
> > > >
> > > > Bob

> > > > '05 Intrigue LE #11872
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

[quote author=joyce36526"
> > > >]
> > > > > We just purchased a NEW 2004 42' Intrigue Ovation. The > > Allison
> > > > 4000

> > > > > over heated and derated itself to 4th gear. CC proposes > > > a "fix"
> > > > with a

> > > > > different trans cooler, different fan and motor, new > > hydralic
> > > > fluid

> > > > > lines, different radiator grill and new air intake, > ducting
> > and

> > > > filter.
> > > > >

> > > > > I am looking for owners of Magna and Intrigue chassis

the
> > > Cat
> > > > 13

> > > > > rated at 525 HP with Allison 4000 whether you have had > > trouble
> > > or
> > > > not.

> > > > > I understand there are over one hundred Magnas and over a > > > dozen

> > > > > Intrigues affected. Only two have been modified. Ours

> Hey, Bill, I need to eat some crow. I screwed up, our GPS is a > Pioneer not Panasonic. The Panasonic might be better, the Pioneer

a joke. I'll probably stick with our Garmin though.

Bob

'05 Intrigue LE #11872

Quote from: gablerwh@a...

> Bob,

> The Panasonic GPS is easy to use and better then most once you

have

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mastered

> it. Go to a CC rally some time and have the Panasonic guy come

to

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your coach

> for a few lessions and you will love it. The voice command is

fun to