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Title: Recent coach burglaries
Post by: Ann on August 13, 2005, 09:53:02 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 17871 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/17871)Hi All,
I'm a visitor here to your group - my husband and I are actually Monaco owners (now, now no booing....ha!), but I wanted to make you aware of something that has been going on out on the road. Maybe some of your members are already aware and/or know of other instances.
Since March of this year there have been at least 10 coach burglaries, 7 of which are Monaco Execs, Dynasty's, one an American Eagle and I dont know the other models. They've occurred in Biloxi, MS, Santa Rosa, Fl, Port St Lucie, FL, Nashville, TN, North Carolina and the last one a month ago in Tucumcari, NM. To my knowledge, those of us who have been robbed have all been parked in higher end campgrounds.
Personally, ours happened in Nashville when we left for one hour to buy groceries. Our safe was crow-barred right out of the floor. We lost all of our jewelery, cash, laptop, checkbooks and credit cards. From what we can ascertain, entry may have been made with a masterkey. Apparently there are three people involved: one watches/follows where you go when you leave while the other two enter the RV. The other coaches have been entered through a window on the drivers side of the coach. From what we've been told others have had their safes sawed from the floor. In any case, a green Ford Expedition with a custom grill, California plates has been spotted in the area before the robberies. In one case the RV owner never left the RV park.
If you know of any other robberies or have heard of any, please let us know. We are trying to gather as much information as we can so we can pass it on to law enforcement. They are hitting high end coaches, so I'm hoping some of you may have information for us.
Thanks for listening ! Ann Ackerman
Title: Re: Recent coach burglaries
Post by: Renocase1945 on August 14, 2005, 03:17:05 pm
We were burglarized on Dec. 4, 2004 in Beaudry RV Resort in Tucson by someone using exactly the same methods you have described. We went to breakfast and were gone between 9:30 and 11:30am. They forced open the sliding window by the driver seat and took the same basic articles you listed.
The only things we can add is an adjacent coach owner told us he previously had seen people in a cream colored car knock at our door a couple of times, when we were gone, prior to the burglary. He assumed they were someone we were having do work. It is very frustrating because it seems no one can or will do much about this. In our case, the very nice, Tucson police said they have a high number of RV burglaries, that are never solved, so it was better not to dust for prints because of the mess it would make, and Beaudry RV still has wide open access to their park. We are fulltime, and believe me we have changed our routines, observation, and security methods. Our rigs are very vulnerable to burglary by people who have a method and know what they are doing. The bottom line is don't leave anything in your coach you are not prepared to lose. My wife still tears up over the personal things she lost.
Jim Case
2003 Intrigue
Quote from: Ann
Hi All,
I'm a visitor here to your group - my husband and I are actually > Monaco owners (now, now no booing....ha!), but I wanted to make
you
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aware of something that has been going on out on the road. Maybe > some of your members are already aware and/or know of other > instances.
Since March of this year there have been at least 10 coach > burglaries, 7 of which are Monaco Execs, Dynasty's, one an
American
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Eagle and I dont know the other models. They've occurred in
Biloxi,
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MS, Santa Rosa, Fl, Port St Lucie, FL, Nashville, TN, North
Carolina
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and the last one a month ago in Tucumcari, NM. To my knowledge, > those of us who have been robbed have all been parked in higher
end
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campgrounds.
Personally, ours happened in Nashville when we left for one hour
to
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buy groceries. Our safe was crow-barred right out of the floor.
We
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lost all of our jewelery, cash, laptop, checkbooks and credit > cards. From what we can ascertain, entry may have been made with
a
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masterkey. Apparently there are three people involved: one > watches/follows where you go when you leave while the other two > enter the RV. The other coaches have been entered through a
window
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on the drivers side of the coach. From what we've been told
others
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have had their safes sawed from the floor. In any case, a green > Ford Expedition with a custom grill, California plates has been > spotted in the area before the robberies. In one case the RV
owner
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never left the RV park.
If you know of any other robberies or have heard of any, please
let
Title: Re: Recent coach burglaries
Post by: Dosgoldens on August 15, 2005, 12:14:20 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 17888 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/17888)How many of the coaches burglarized had alarm systems? If so, did the alarm have any deterrant value?
Russ and Jean
05 Intrigue LE 11883
Quote from: renocase1945
> Ann,
We were burglarized on Dec. 4, 2004 in Beaudry RV Resort in Tucson > by someone using exactly the same methods you have described. We > went to breakfast and were gone between 9:30 and 11:30am. They > forced open the sliding window by the driver seat and took the same > basic articles you listed.
The only things we can add is an adjacent coach owner told us he > previously had seen people in a cream colored car knock at our door > a couple of times, when we were gone, prior to the burglary. He > assumed they were someone we were having do work. It is very frustrating because it seems no one can or will do much > about this. In our case, the very nice, Tucson police said they > have a high number of RV burglaries, that are never solved, so it > was better not to dust for prints because of the mess it would
make,
Quote
and Beaudry RV still has wide open access to their park. We are fulltime, and believe me we have changed our routines, > observation, and security methods. Our rigs are very vulnerable to > burglary by people who have a method and know what they are doing. The bottom line is don't leave anything in your coach you are not > prepared to lose. My wife still tears up over the personal things > she lost.
Jim Case
2003 Intrigue
[quote author=Ann"
> Hi All,
> I'm a visitor here to your group - my husband and I are actually > > Monaco owners (now, now no booing....ha!), but I wanted to make > you
> aware of something that has been going on out on the road. Maybe > > some of your members are already aware and/or know of other > > instances. >
> Since March of this year there have been at least 10 coach > > burglaries, 7 of which are Monaco Execs, Dynasty's, one an > American
> Eagle and I dont know the other models. They've occurred in > Biloxi,
> MS, Santa Rosa, Fl, Port St Lucie, FL, Nashville, TN, North > Carolina
> and the last one a month ago in Tucumcari, NM. To my knowledge, > > those of us who have been robbed have all been parked in higher > end
> campgrounds. >
> Personally, ours happened in Nashville when we left for one hour > to
> buy groceries. Our safe was crow-barred right out of the floor. We
> lost all of our jewelery, cash, laptop, checkbooks and credit > > cards. From what we can ascertain, entry may have been made with > a
> masterkey. Apparently there are three people involved: one > > watches/follows where you go when you leave while the other two > > enter the RV. The other coaches have been entered through a > window
> on the drivers side of the coach. From what we've been told > others
> have had their safes sawed from the floor. In any case, a green > > Ford Expedition with a custom grill, California plates has been > > spotted in the area before the robberies. In one case the RV > owner
> never left the RV park. >
> If you know of any other robberies or have heard of any, please > let
> us know. We are trying to gather as much information as we can
so
Title: Re: Recent coach burglaries
Post by: Ann on August 15, 2005, 12:27:50 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 17889 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/17889)My guess would be that no one had alarms. I know that we don't and can't because of our cats. The other information I received didn't mention alarms going off or being tampered with, so I'd say no. I also wasnt told of any dogs - so before anyone asks....no dogs, either :)
Quote from: dosgoldens
How many of the coaches burglarized had alarm systems? If so, did
the
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alarm have any deterrant value? >
Russ and Jean
05 Intrigue LE 11883
[quote author=renocase1945"
> Ann,
> We were burglarized on Dec. 4, 2004 in Beaudry RV Resort in
Tucson
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by someone using exactly the same methods you have described.
We
Quote
went to breakfast and were gone between 9:30 and 11:30am. They > > forced open the sliding window by the driver seat and took the
same
Quote
basic articles you listed. > The only things we can add is an adjacent coach owner told us he > > previously had seen people in a cream colored car knock at our
door
Quote
a couple of times, when we were gone, prior to the burglary. He > > assumed they were someone we were having do work. > It is very frustrating because it seems no one can or will do
much
Quote
about this. In our case, the very nice, Tucson police said they > > have a high number of RV burglaries, that are never solved, so
it
Quote
was better not to dust for prints because of the mess it would > make,
> and Beaudry RV still has wide open access to their park. > We are fulltime, and believe me we have changed our routines, > > observation, and security methods. Our rigs are very vulnerable
to
Quote
burglary by people who have a method and know what they are
doing.
Quote
The bottom line is don't leave anything in your coach you are
not
Quote
prepared to lose. My wife still tears up over the personal
things
Quote
she lost. >
> Jim Case
> 2003 Intrigue > > > >
[quote author=Ann" >] > > Hi All,
> > I'm a visitor here to your group - my husband and I are
actually
Quote
> Monaco owners (now, now no booing....ha!), but I wanted to
make
Quote
you
> > aware of something that has been going on out on the road.
Maybe
Quote
> some of your members are already aware and/or know of other > > > instances. > >
> > Since March of this year there have been at least 10 coach > > > burglaries, 7 of which are Monaco Execs, Dynasty's, one an > > American
> > Eagle and I dont know the other models. They've occurred in > > Biloxi,
> > MS, Santa Rosa, Fl, Port St Lucie, FL, Nashville, TN, North > > Carolina
> > and the last one a month ago in Tucumcari, NM. To my
knowledge,
Quote
> those of us who have been robbed have all been parked in
higher
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end > > campgrounds. > >
> > Personally, ours happened in Nashville when we left for one
hour
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to
> > buy groceries. Our safe was crow-barred right out of the
floor.
Quote
We
> > lost all of our jewelery, cash, laptop, checkbooks and credit > > > cards. From what we can ascertain, entry may have been made
with
Quote
a
> > masterkey. Apparently there are three people involved: one > > > watches/follows where you go when you leave while the other
two
Quote
> enter the RV. The other coaches have been entered through a > > window
> > on the drivers side of the coach. From what we've been told > > others
> > have had their safes sawed from the floor. In any case, a
green
Quote
> Ford Expedition with a custom grill, California plates has
been
Quote
> spotted in the area before the robberies. In one case the RV > > owner
> > never left the RV park. > >
> > If you know of any other robberies or have heard of any,
please
Quote
let
> > us know. We are trying to gather as much information as we
can
Quote
so
> > we can pass it on to law enforcement. They are hitting high
end
Title: Re: Recent coach burglaries
Post by: Dosgoldens on August 15, 2005, 12:41:48 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 17890 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/17890)I am aware that there are alarm systems that will work even with dogs and cats. It is all in the placement of the sensors. Will do some research and post shortly. "Unless someone beats me to it".
Russ and Jean 05 Intrigue 11883
Quote from: Ann
My guess would be that no one had alarms. I know that we don't and > can't because of our cats. The other information I received didn't > mention alarms going off or being tampered with, so I'd say no. I > also wasnt told of any dogs - so before anyone asks....no dogs, > either :)
[quote author=dosgoldens"
> How many of the coaches burglarized had alarm systems? If so, did > the
> alarm have any deterrant value? > >
> Russ and Jean
> 05 Intrigue LE 11883 > >
[quote author=renocase1945" >] > > Ann,
> > We were burglarized on Dec. 4, 2004 in Beaudry RV Resort in > Tucson
> > by someone using exactly the same methods you have described. We
> > went to breakfast and were gone between 9:30 and 11:30am. They > > > forced open the sliding window by the driver seat and took the > same
> > basic articles you listed.
> > The only things we can add is an adjacent coach owner told us
he
Quote
> previously had seen people in a cream colored car knock at our > door
> > a couple of times, when we were gone, prior to the burglary. He > > > assumed they were someone we were having do work. > > It is very frustrating because it seems no one can or will do > much
> > about this. In our case, the very nice, Tucson police said
they
Quote
> have a high number of RV burglaries, that are never solved, so > it
> > was better not to dust for prints because of the mess it would > > make,
> > and Beaudry RV still has wide open access to their park. > > We are fulltime, and believe me we have changed our routines, > > > observation, and security methods. Our rigs are very
vulnerable
Quote
to
> > burglary by people who have a method and know what they are > doing.
> > The bottom line is don't leave anything in your coach you are > not
> > prepared to lose. My wife still tears up over the personal > things
> > she lost. > >
> > Jim Case
> > 2003 Intrigue > > > > > > > >
Quote from: Ann"[/quote
Quote
>] > > > Hi All,
> > > I'm a visitor here to your group - my husband and I are > actually
> > > Monaco owners (now, now no booing....ha!), but I wanted to > make > > you
> > > aware of something that has been going on out on the road. Maybe
> > > some of your members are already aware and/or know of other > > > > instances. > > >
> > > Since March of this year there have been at least 10 coach > > > > burglaries, 7 of which are Monaco Execs, Dynasty's, one an > > > American
> > > Eagle and I dont know the other models. They've occurred in > > > Biloxi,
> > > MS, Santa Rosa, Fl, Port St Lucie, FL, Nashville, TN, North > > > Carolina
> > > and the last one a month ago in Tucumcari, NM. To my > knowledge,
> > > those of us who have been robbed have all been parked in > higher > > end
> > > campgrounds. > > >
> > > Personally, ours happened in Nashville when we left for one > hour > > to
> > > buy groceries. Our safe was crow-barred right out of the > floor. > > We
> > > lost all of our jewelery, cash, laptop, checkbooks and credit > > > > cards. From what we can ascertain, entry may have been made > with > > a
> > > masterkey. Apparently there are three people involved: one > > > > watches/follows where you go when you leave while the other > two
> > > enter the RV. The other coaches have been entered through a > > > window
> > > on the drivers side of the coach. From what we've been told > > > others
> > > have had their safes sawed from the floor. In any case, a > green
> > > Ford Expedition with a custom grill, California plates has > been
> > > spotted in the area before the robberies. In one case the RV > > > owner
> > > never left the RV park. > > >
> > > If you know of any other robberies or have heard of any, > please > > let
> > > us know. We are trying to gather as much information as we > can > so
> > > we can pass it on to law enforcement. They are hitting high > end
> > > coaches, so I'm hoping some of you may have information for
us.
Title: Re: Recent coach burglaries
Post by: Ann on August 15, 2005, 01:09:33 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 17893 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/17893)Thanks ! that would be great!
Ann
Quote from: dosgoldens
I am aware that there are alarm systems that will work even with
dogs
Quote
and cats. It is all in the placement of the sensors. Will do some > research and post shortly. "Unless someone beats me to it".
Russ and Jean 05 Intrigue 11883
[quote author=Ann"
> My guess would be that no one had alarms. I know that we don't
and
Quote
can't because of our cats. The other information I received
didn't
Quote
mention alarms going off or being tampered with, so I'd say no.
I
Quote
also wasnt told of any dogs - so before anyone asks....no dogs, > > either :) > > >
[quote author=dosgoldens" >] > > How many of the coaches burglarized had alarm systems? If so,
did
Quote
the
> > alarm have any deterrant value? > > >
> > Russ and Jean
> > 05 Intrigue LE 11883 > > > >
[quote author=renocase1945" > >] > > > Ann,
> > > We were burglarized on Dec. 4, 2004 in Beaudry RV Resort in > > Tucson
> > > by someone using exactly the same methods you have
described.
Quote
We
> > > went to breakfast and were gone between 9:30 and 11:30am.
They
Quote
> > forced open the sliding window by the driver seat and took
the
Quote
same
> > > basic articles you listed. > > > The only things we can add is an adjacent coach owner told
us
Quote
he
> > > previously had seen people in a cream colored car knock at
our
Quote
door
> > > a couple of times, when we were gone, prior to the burglary.
He
Quote
> > assumed they were someone we were having do work. > > > It is very frustrating because it seems no one can or will
do
Quote
much
> > > about this. In our case, the very nice, Tucson police said > they
> > > have a high number of RV burglaries, that are never solved,
so
Quote
it
> > > was better not to dust for prints because of the mess it
would
Quote
> make,
> > > and Beaudry RV still has wide open access to their park. > > > We are fulltime, and believe me we have changed our
routines,
Quote
> > observation, and security methods. Our rigs are very > vulnerable > to
> > > burglary by people who have a method and know what they are > > doing.
> > > The bottom line is don't leave anything in your coach you
are
Quote
not
> > > prepared to lose. My wife still tears up over the personal > > things
> > > she lost. > > >
> > > Jim Case
> > > 2003 Intrigue > > > > > > > > > > > >
[quote author=Ann"
> > >] > > > > Hi All,
> > > > I'm a visitor here to your group - my husband and I are > > actually
> > > > Monaco owners (now, now no booing....ha!), but I wanted to > > make > > > you
> > > > aware of something that has been going on out on the
road.
Quote
Maybe
> > > > some of your members are already aware and/or know of
other
Quote
> > > instances. > > > >
> > > > Since March of this year there have been at least 10 coach > > > > > burglaries, 7 of which are Monaco Execs, Dynasty's, one an > > > > American
> > > > Eagle and I dont know the other models. They've occurred
in
Quote
> > Biloxi,
> > > > MS, Santa Rosa, Fl, Port St Lucie, FL, Nashville, TN,
North
Quote
> > Carolina
> > > > and the last one a month ago in Tucumcari, NM. To my > > knowledge,
> > > > those of us who have been robbed have all been parked in > > higher > > > end
> > > > campgrounds. > > > >
> > > > Personally, ours happened in Nashville when we left for
one
Quote
hour > > > to
> > > > buy groceries. Our safe was crow-barred right out of the > > floor. > > > We
> > > > lost all of our jewelery, cash, laptop, checkbooks and
credit
Quote
> > > cards. From what we can ascertain, entry may have been
made
Quote
with > > > a
> > > > masterkey. Apparently there are three people involved:
one
Quote
> > > watches/follows where you go when you leave while the
other
Quote
two
> > > > enter the RV. The other coaches have been entered through
a
Quote
> > window
> > > > on the drivers side of the coach. From what we've been
told
Quote
> > others
> > > > have had their safes sawed from the floor. In any case, a > > green
> > > > Ford Expedition with a custom grill, California plates has > > been
> > > > spotted in the area before the robberies. In one case the
RV
Quote
> > owner
> > > > never left the RV park. > > > >
> > > > If you know of any other robberies or have heard of any, > > please > > > let
> > > > us know. We are trying to gather as much information as
we
Quote
can > > so
> > > > we can pass it on to law enforcement. They are hitting
high
Quote
end
> > > > coaches, so I'm hoping some of you may have information
for
Title: Re: Recent coach burglaries
Post by: Dick Bradley on August 15, 2005, 03:06:24 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 17896 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/17896)[Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Recent coach burglaries Under the dash (driver's side) there is a toggle switch with two settings. One is normal (door, bay doors and motion sensor) the other is "door's only". Took us a few nasty neighbors telling us that our Schnuazer was setting off the alarm while we were away to learn this.