Yahoo Message Number: 18653 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18653)
We have a 2005 Inspire which has 4 house batteries. We have noticed that when using the inverter the batteries really do not last that long before needing charging. Obviously it depends upon what you are doing in terms of power consumption but we have noticed that we only get about 5 to 7 hours of what seems to be about 2 or 4 amps. We have not run them down to the red in the indicator so maybe there is more power available. At any rate I was wondering if this is normal from other owners.
We also notice when we hook up to shore power or start the generator to recharge the batteries the indicator goes to red and stays there for a while even though the batteries were not in the red zone prior to hook up or starting the generator, is this normal?
Also, I was told, though I cannot find it in any of the manuals, that you should turn the inverter off before starting the generator or hooking up to shore power. Is this true?
Kary
05 Inspire 36'
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Yahoo Message Number: 18654 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18654)
If you go to www.xantrex.com, they have all kinds of cool info and faq's. I have never turned off the inverter in any motorhome I have owned, but I did pop my inverter last week ... maybe when I startd the genset. Did not see anything about this on the xantrex site, but did not read everything.
John and Terry
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Yahoo Message Number: 18655 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18655)
I got this from the Xantrex site ...
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When shorepower is available, you may leave your inverter ON or OFF.
There are advantages and disadvantages to both methods. If the inverter is left ON, you have immediate backup AC power if you lose shorepower. You may not be aware shorepower is lost until your batteries are fully discharged. If you choose to leave your inverter OFF you have the advantage of knowing when you have lost shorepower.
This, however, is at the expense of losing automatic backup power capabilities.
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This would be the place to say "turn off inverter when hooking up to shore power", and they don't say that. I assume running the genset is samo samo ...
John and Terry
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Yahoo Message Number: 18656 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18656)
According to info in one of the pieces of Xantrex lit that came with my coach, it takes about 15 minutes for the indicator to correctly reflect the state of the battery charge.
Tony Ferrara
04 Inspire 51172
Yahoo Message Number: 18658 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18658)
Hi Kerry,
As posted sometime ago - try this.
Monitor the battery voltage, 12.65 vdc is 100% capacity left, 12.45 is 75%, 12.25 is 50%, 12.05 is 25% and 11.85 is 0% (dead battery). These numbers have been slightly modified for easy rememberance. See how long it takes to get to 50%, that is your cutoff for battery discharge/recharge cycles for longer life. Below this value, battery discharge/recharge cycles drop rapidly and battery replacement comes much sooner.
Fred Kovol
Yahoo Message Number: 18659 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18659)
Hi Kary,
Sorry I mispelled your name.
Fred Kovol
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Hi Kerry,
As posted sometime ago - try this.
Monitor the battery voltage, 12.65 vdc is 100% capacity left, 12.45 [/quote]
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Yahoo Message Number: 18660 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18660)
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Good morning all,
I went through the battery charging exercise when I first took delivery of the coach. Something just didn't seem right and I thought I had major leakage in my 12V system.
Repeatedly after a day on the road, my house voltage was low, indicating that the alternator was not doing its thing.
While your engine is running, your alternator is supposed to charge both the chassis and house batteries, through a battery boost solenoid in the chassis battery bay on the passenger's side, aft.
An oil pressure switch on the engine closes the solenoid. (This solenoid also ties the batteries together when you depress the boost switch on the side console, allowing house assist to start the engine with a low chassis battery.)
After much frustration, a wiring diagram, three solenoids overnighted to me by CC, and blown diodes out the yahoo, I discovered that the solenoid was miswired. After straightening that out, the boost switch would close the solenoid but the oil pressure switch would not. CC provided a new boost switch and the local Caterpillar service facility installed it. In the process, CAT discovered not only that the old switch was faulty, but it was wired backwards too! Arrghhh!
I have not yet done my post-maintenance checks on the system, but am hopeful that this gremlin is behind me.
Test: Get your multimeter and check the battery voltage AT THE HOUSE BATTERIES in the forward driver's side bay. Then start your engine and check the voltage again. You should read alternator voltage AT THE HOUSE BATTERIES. If not, you are not charging from the engine. You will have no indication of this, other than depleted house voltage at the end of the travel day.
(By the way, CAT installed the oil pressure switch at the same time that they installed the new dip stick assembly. Now I know how much oil I have in the pan. Do you?)
Jay
05 Inspire DaVinci 51457
Yahoo Message Number: 18661 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18661)
It is very likely that you have one of these installed: http://www.intellitec.com/pdfs/BATTERY_web/5300366.000.pdf (http://www.intellitec.com/pdfs/BATTERY_web/5300366.000.pdf) Tom Fisher
Dallas, TX
Yahoo Message Number: 18662 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18662)
Also bear in mind that these voltages are "open circuit" voltages. That is, with out a significant draw on the batterys. (Technically with no draw on the batterys)
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Yahoo Message Number: 18664 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18664)
Hi Tom,
Your last sentence - I don't believe it is installed as the pressure switch and solenoid does the job. When on shore or generator power the converter (i.e. inverter/charger) charges the house batteries and the echo charger the chassis battery.
Fred Kovol
Yahoo Message Number: 18666 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18666)
Hi,
The statement below is true - one must remove most of the load (turn off lights, appliances and inverter, etc)and wait a few minutes for the voltage to rise and stabilize before taking a reading.
Fred Kovol
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Yahoo Message Number: 18670 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18670)
Sure nice to see Fred back online. I've been "on and offline" for awhile now and haven't seen him nor his unbelievable font of knowledge here in the Forum for quite a while.
Fred- if you've been gone. Here's a hardy "welcome back".
Tom
05 Magna #6479
Yahoo Message Number: 18672 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18672)
I just signed up a new friend to the group and am writing this email to welcome him.
Everyone - please welcome Bill Bradford to the group.
Tom
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Yahoo Message Number: 18675 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18675)
We are at Davis Cabinets getting some work done and just was wondering if anyone from the forum was at CCC. We will be at Davis until Friday.
Please feel free to stop by and say Hi - Would enjoy meeting some forum friends.
Happy Trails - Safe Travels - -
Emerson and Kathy Marsh
2000 Allure #30536
Yahoo Message Number: 18686 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18686)
Although you can deplete the batteries below 50% capacity, it will shorten their life. Look at the batteries for their 'amp-hour' capacity. Lets say you have 4 6 volt batteries which provide 200 Amp Hours. That is 2 pairs in series and then those 2 in parallel.
Thus you should get 400 amp hours from that set up, or 200 amp hours used 'gently'. So if you draw 20 amps, you should be able to approach 10 hours of usage (there are losses in the system, of course).
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Yahoo Message Number: 18734 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/18734)
That is if you are using only 20A at 12vdc. When you invert it to 120vac, 200Ahr battery capacity will only last about one hour when drawn at 20A. 12vdc X 200A = 2400watts & 120vac X 20A = 2400watts.
Taking into consideration the power the inverter and other invisible loads use, you will likely get less than the one hour.
Jim Hughes
2000 Allure #30511
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