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Fixed the step squeek today so here's the update. As noted in > previous posts the cuprit is (are) two bolts with rubber baby-

heads. Actually there are four such animals---two in the back > (inboard) which the step bumps up against when retracted. Also two > that bump up against the bottom step when extended. These bumpers > engage the lower step flat (the piece where you place your foot) on > the inside edge of this flat piece of steel. They engage this

edge with enough force(pressure) that the two rubber bumpers were > actually sliced in two, crosswise. It seems that the actuator arm > that pushes the step out is just a tad too long. Actually this > actuator arm is mounted with a bolt and nut on either end and thus

conclusion is that these mounting holes in the arm are just a tad

far apart. The proof was---I unbolted the actuator arm at both

with the step extended and found that I had to drive the second

out because it was so tight. When bolting the arm back in place

first bolt when in very easily since the other end was loose but

second bolt was very tough. In fact the hole in the arm did not

up with the hole in the step by almost 1/4 inch. Had to really

the step out further than the bumpers wanted to allow in order to

the holes up. Conclusion--the new rubber baby-bumpers won't last

Too much pressure on them. Sorry this is long but wanted to

>

Fixed the step squeek today so here's the update. As noted in > previous posts the cuprit is (are) two bolts with rubber baby-

heads. Actually there are four such animals---two in the back > (inboard) which the step bumps up against when retracted. Also two > that bump up against the bottom step when extended. These bumpers > engage the lower step flat (the piece where you place your foot) on > the inside edge of this flat piece of steel. They engage this

edge with enough force(pressure) that the two rubber bumpers were > actually sliced in two, crosswise. It seems that the actuator arm > that pushes the step out is just a tad too long. Actually this > actuator arm is mounted with a bolt and nut on either end and thus

conclusion is that these mounting holes in the arm are just a tad

far apart. The proof was---I unbolted the actuator arm at both

with the step extended and found that I had to drive the second

out because it was so tight. When bolting the arm back in place

first bolt when in very easily since the other end was loose but

second bolt was very tough. In fact the hole in the arm did not

up with the hole in the step by almost 1/4 inch. Had to really

the step out further than the bumpers wanted to allow in order to

the holes up. Conclusion--the new rubber baby-bumpers won't last

Too much pressure on them. Sorry this is long but wanted to

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Bob,

Thanks for the input. Your "fix" is indeed interesting. Please describe the configuration of your teflon pads and how you secured then to----What?

Lyle Wetherholt
04 Intrigue 11740

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Larry,

Question---with the bolts removed does the bottom step feel secure or does it tend to move in and out just a bit? Also, I can"t quite see why the bumpers would hit a vertically flat surface if you move ot the upper hole. By my observation there is no flat surface there, just the raw edge of the bottom step. Comment?

Lyle Wetherholt
04 Intrigue 11740
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Quote from: Larry Feather" Larry, Question---with the bolts removed does the bottom step feel secure [/quote

feel secure

or

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does it tend to move in and out just a bit? Also, I can"t quite

see

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why the bumpers would hit a vertically flat surface if you move ot

the

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upper hole. By my observation there is no flat surface there, just > the raw edge of the bottom step. Comment? > Lyle Wetherholt
04 Intrigue 11740

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>

> Don't know yet what kind of problems I will have in the future,

but

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I merely removed the two sqeeky bolts and it doesn't squeek > > anymore. Didn't see that the step was bottoming out on

anything.

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Looked like the actuator arm limited the distance the step was > > allowed to travel. I'll probably reinstall them after I find

some

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rubber stoppers. Also noticed I have two hole positions (upper

or

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lower)to choose from to install the bumpers. I'll try the upper > > holes next time. They look like they wouldn't wear out the

rubber

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stop as easy because the rubber stop will rest on a flat surface

as

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apposed to a sharp edge like they do on the lower hole.
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> Larry 30856
>
> uh

[quote author=Lyle Wetherholt"
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> >

> > Fixed the step squeek today so here's the update. As noted in > > > previous posts the cuprit is (are) two bolts with rubber baby- > > bumper

> > heads. Actually there are four such animals---two in the back > > > (inboard) which the step bumps up against when retracted.

Also two

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> that bump up against the bottom step when extended. These

bumpers

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> engage the lower step flat (the piece where you place your

foot) on

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> the inside edge of this flat piece of steel. They engage this > > steel

> > edge with enough force(pressure) that the two rubber bumpers

were

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> actually sliced in two, crosswise. It seems that the actuator

arm

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> that pushes the step out is just a tad too long. Actually this > > > actuator arm is mounted with a bolt and nut on either end and

thus

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my

> > conclusion is that these mounting holes in the arm are just a

tad

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too

> > far apart. The proof was---I unbolted the actuator arm at

both

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ends

> > with the step extended and found that I had to drive the

second

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bolt

> > out because it was so tight. When bolting the arm back in

place

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the

> > first bolt when in very easily since the other end was loose

but

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the

> > second bolt was very tough. In fact the hole in the arm did

not

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line

> > up with the hole in the step by almost 1/4 inch. Had to

really

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force

> > the step out further than the bumpers wanted to allow in order

to

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line

> > the holes up. Conclusion--the new rubber baby-bumpers won't

last

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Larry,

Of course you are right. Upon re-examining my finished job I find my mistakes. The bolts supplied by Kwikee were very long and each had a jamb nut up next to the bumber. Thus you could merely adjust the length that the bolt penetrated the mounting plate while using the upper holes. This would bring the bumper in contact with the vertical plate. Not knowing this I cut the ends of the bolts off to size them for the lower holes. Interestingly, I had talked to Kwikee and they did not make any suggestion about the second hole, the bolt lengths, or the abiltiy to adjust where the bumpers hit. I think they did it wrong and I blindly followed in their footsteps. Next time I will do it right but the current fix should last for some time.

Lyle Wetherholt
04 Intrigue 11740

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Quote from: Larry Feather" Larry, Of course you are right. Upon re-examining my finished job I find [/quote

job I find

my

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mistakes. The bolts supplied by Kwikee were very long and each

had a

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jamb nut up next to the bumber. Thus you could merely adjust the > length that the bolt penetrated the mounting plate while using the > upper holes. This would bring the bumper in contact with the

vertical

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plate. Not knowing this I cut the ends of the bolts off to size

them

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for the lower holes. Interestingly, I had talked to Kwikee and

they

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did not make any suggestion about the second hole, the bolt

lengths,

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or the abiltiy to adjust where the bumpers hit. I think they did

it

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wrong and I blindly followed in their footsteps. Next time I will

do

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it right but the current fix should last for some time.
Lyle Wetherholt
04 Intrigue 11740
> Lyle
>

> The bottom step is solid. Won't budge in or out with the stops > > removed. It's secured by the actuator. When the stops are in

the

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bottom hole they hit the bottom horizontal lip/edge of the

bottom

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step (as you know). If you install them in the top hole they

will

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hit the flat vertical wall of the bottom step. You will need a > > thicker bumper though. Maybe half inch or so. But I'm still > > wondering why I need them.
>

> Larry #30856
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>
>

[quote author=Lyle Wetherholt"
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> >
> >

[quote author=Larry Feather"
> >]
> > Larry,

> > Question---with the bolts removed does the bottom step feel

secure

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or

> > does it tend to move in and out just a bit? Also, I can"t

quite

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see

> > why the bumpers would hit a vertically flat surface if you

move ot

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the

> > upper hole. By my observation there is no flat surface there,

just

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> the raw edge of the bottom step. Comment? > > > Lyle Wetherholt
> > 04 Intrigue 11740
> >
> > '
> > >

> > > Don't know yet what kind of problems I will have in the

future,

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but

> > > I merely removed the two sqeeky bolts and it doesn't squeek > > > > anymore. Didn't see that the step was bottoming out on > > anything.

> > > Looked like the actuator arm limited the distance the step

was

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> > allowed to travel. I'll probably reinstall them after I

find

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some

> > > rubber stoppers. Also noticed I have two hole positions

(upper

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or

> > > lower)to choose from to install the bumpers. I'll try the

upper

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> > holes next time. They look like they wouldn't wear out the > > rubber

> > > stop as easy because the rubber stop will rest on a flat

surface

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as

> > > apposed to a sharp edge like they do on the lower hole.
> > >

> > > Larry 30856
> > >
> > > uh

Quote from: Lyle[/quote

Wetherholt"

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> >]
> > > >

> > > > Fixed the step squeek today so here's the update. As

noted in

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> > > previous posts the cuprit is (are) two bolts with rubber

baby-

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> > bumper

> > > > heads. Actually there are four such animals---two in the

back

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> > > (inboard) which the step bumps up against when retracted.
> Also two

> > > > that bump up against the bottom step when extended. These > > bumpers

> > > > engage the lower step flat (the piece where you place your > > foot) on

> > > > the inside edge of this flat piece of steel. They engage

this

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> > steel

> > > > edge with enough force(pressure) that the two rubber

bumpers

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were

> > > > actually sliced in two, crosswise. It seems that the

actuator

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arm

> > > > that pushes the step out is just a tad too long. Actually

this

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> > > actuator arm is mounted with a bolt and nut on either end

and

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thus
> > > my

> > > > conclusion is that these mounting holes in the arm are

just a

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tad
> > > too

> > > > far apart. The proof was---I unbolted the actuator arm at > > both
> > > ends

> > > > with the step extended and found that I had to drive the > > second
> > > bolt

> > > > out because it was so tight. When bolting the arm back in > > place
> > > the

> > > > first bolt when in very easily since the other end was

loose

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but
> > > the

> > > > second bolt was very tough. In fact the hole in the arm

did

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not
> > > line

> > > > up with the hole in the step by almost 1/4 inch. Had to > > really
> > > force

> > > > the step out further than the bumpers wanted to allow in

order

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to
> > > line

> > > > the holes up. Conclusion--the new rubber baby-bumpers

won't

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last
> > > long.

> > > > Too much pressure on them. Sorry this is long but wanted

to