Yahoo Message Number: 20488 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20488)
I am filing a lemon law suit against Country Coach and would like to know what others have to say?
Yahoo Message Number: 20489 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20489)
It might be good if you told the group WHO YOU are and background, coach #, etc if you expect or want any responses.
Yahoo Message Number: 20491 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20491)
repairs for major structural issues like 4-radiators, 12 shocks, windshield issues, water leaks throughout the coach where i must use plastic trays to catch the water, black sout from the engine compartment, and smell and ALOT MORE. It has gone to the factory and everywhere they suggested with NO success. Enough is enough.
Yahoo Message Number: 20509 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20509)
detail/reason is unfair! If you where to give the reason for your suit and tell us what you have tried you may get someone to respond! What is wrong with your coach that can not be fixed! Remember there is a lot of equipment on that coach that is not made by CC! I hope you understand where I am coming from and am not sticking up for them!
Carl
know what others have
Yahoo Message Number: 20511 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20511)
We agree. More information and details would be appreciated. Never know when someone is spinning a yarn.
Russ and Jean
05 Intrigue
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Yahoo Message Number: 20513 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20513)
Not too sure who this guy is but there is a raging war going on now over on the RV.NET site about these pic's that someone posted when this guy drove through Outdoor Resorts ??
Pictures:
http://www3.telus.net/Retired_At_40/motorhome.htm (http://www3.telus.net/Retired_At_40/motorhome.htm)
Thread:
http://www.woodalls.com/forums/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/16890316 (http://www.woodalls.com/forums/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/16890316) /srt/pa/pging/1/page/1
The owner has never posted anything except here on this site that I'm aware of. Seems that there is more to this story than what we have so far.
4 radiators and 10 shocks ?? Would sure get my attention.
Michael
01' Intrigue #11224
know what others have
Yahoo Message Number: 20515 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20515)
This guys name is Steve and he has modified his coach to by adding lots of cabinetry to carry thousands of lbs of beads. He has created his own problems.
Yahoo Message Number: 20516 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20516)
Are the gentleman who drives around with all the lemons pasted on your coach?
Yahoo Message Number: 20520 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20520)
Steve Mendelson was at the show in Indio last week I can credit two sales I made to him ;-). People see it at shows and inquire.
Here is the other side of the story Steve misplaced. This coach is extremely overweight and in commercial use. The owner goes to numerous RV shows (and others when he is not in Junction City) and retails beads. He had extra cabinets installed in his coach all along one side with numerous drawers full of beads. His bays are all full of plastic tubs, full of beads. Country Coach has done and an enormous amount of warranty and post warranty good will work for this guy and when he kept having the same problems over and over, they weighed his coach. He was told it was overweight and continues to operate his coach this way. How many of you have broken 12 plus "Koni" shocks in less than 2 years?
Anytime you buy a coach and place it in commercial use it voids the manufacturers warranty, regardless of the manufacturer. Even though Country Coach is aware of this they still honored his warranty and then some.
Damon K. Rapozo
Oregon
Yahoo Message Number: 20522 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20522)
Hi Damon,
Thanks for the information, I knew you would give me a straight answer.
I am not familiar with the rv.net site so didn't find your comments there but will try again later.
Regards, David
David and Karen
Coachless in Sisters!
2002 Honda Odyssey TOAD
Yahoo Message Number: 20523 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20523)
Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Steve Mendelson's Overloaded A This sad soul parked next to our Intrigue the other day in Cathedral City and embarrassed us with his obnoxiously decorated Country Coach. You wonder how anyone can go through life with this much hatred and such a miserable outlook on life. Granted, we all have problems with our rigs. Fortunately most of us can deal with them in a reasonable manner.
Dick B
04 Intrigue 11830
At 4:13 PM +0000 1/19/06, dieselrvs wrote:
Yahoo Message Number: 20524 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20524)
Thanks for "the other side of the story". Being very new to this site, I did not post what I knew...didn't want to be the one to open the can of worms.
There is always one in every crowd. We saw this with our last brand of RV as well.
Sue
'05, 42' Allure 31254
Yahoo Message Number: 20528 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20528)
And it only took a few posts to get to the bottom of things. This is a class forum.
Unlike rv.net, where the discussion is up to 12 pages now ... geeeesh.
John and Terry
2005 Affinity
Yahoo Message Number: 20531 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20531)
Russ,
How are things going with your Intrigue? We are on # five windshield and # two radiator. Windshield's CC has no idea yet. Best bet so far forgot to put support in front cap from what I hear. I ask because your # is close to mine.
Joe
Intrigue 2005 11876
Yahoo Message Number: 20532 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20532)
Hi Joe,
We have not had any problems with the windshield or much of anything else, (so far).
We have a 40 foot quad.
We have heard that the 42 foot Intrigues had had windshield problems because the front Cap had been installed out of square.
The final or best solution was to rebuild the front end.
What model (length)is your coach?
Russ
05 Intrigue 11883
windshield and # two radiator. Windshield's CC has no idea yet.
Best bet so far forgot to put support in front cap from what I hear.
I ask because your # is close to mine.
Never
Yahoo Message Number: 20533 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20533)
I was going to suggest the same thing...have CC check the position of the front cap, but it looks like they have already. We had the same problem with our previous coach (not a CC). The cap looked straight horizontally and vertically, but one side towards the bottom was not even with the other side and bulged out. Was hard to see, but once they figured out the problem it did stand out. The removed the front cap and repositioned it and that solved the windshield cracking problems and the dash, cap and glass fit much better.
Good luck
Sue
'05, 42' Allure 31254
Yahoo Message Number: 20536 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20536)
Joe, our number is really close to yours and so far (knock on wood) we have not had any windshield problems. We are on #2 radiator as the original leaked for three days in October. It was a small leak but the factory wanted to install the radiator upgrade. Is your coach a Cummins or CAT?
Bob
'05 Intrigue Ovation #11872
windshield and # two radiator. Windshield's CC has no idea yet.
Best bet so far forgot to put support in front cap from what I hear.
I ask because your # is close to mine.
Never
Yahoo Message Number: 20539 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20539)
Bob,
Got a C-13, 525hp, pussy cat. Love the engine.
Joe
42' Intrigue 11876
2005
Yahoo Message Number: 20540 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20540)
Sue,
So far we found out that there was no structural supports between the cap and the steel frame. About 2" space. We had the dash pulled out and some ply wood was cut and glued and screwed in place in order to give the front cap some integrity. The new windshield lasted about two days. Now they are going to pull the windshield out again and install supports in the upper portion of the cap in an attempt to strengthen the top.
Fingers are crossed!
Joe
42' Intrigue 11876 2005
Yahoo Message Number: 20541 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20541)
How would that cause his radiator to fail 4 times? Just curious, it appears that anytime a lemon owner posts he is immediately peppered with such comments. You must know that many of these coaches come out of the CC factory with far too many defects for could be easily elimated if they would just spend a fraction of their marketing budget on a QC program.
I for one would like to see someone get their attention so that they will cut out the bs and actually do what they profess to do. Build the world's finest motorhome.
Ray
2000 Intrigue
Yahoo Message Number: 20542 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20542)
Damon,
I love it when you make excuses for the defects in CC mothorhomes.
Over the years, they've put out coaches with so many problems that you wonder why they even claim to have a QC department.
I'm thinking of the many charge air cooler problems, the many leaky radiators, the many delaminated doors, the electrolysis problems, the leaky slide outs...the Inspire windshields that were improperly installed.
You'd do the industry a lot of good as one of their top salesmen by pushing CC management to establish a "real" QC program so that owners don't have to spend months or years in service centers trying to get manufacturing defects removed. Just a thought, you might even make more sells if you did that.
Ray
2000 Intrigue
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Yahoo Message Number: 20543 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20543)
Good luck! Looks like your problem is different that what we had on our SOB. Hope they can get yours fixed. I feel lucky ours was finally figured out and taken care of. No more problems since then. Traded in that coach about 2 years ago and ran into the new owners last week. It is doing great.
Sue
'05, 42' Allure 31254
Yahoo Message Number: 20547 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20547)
My two cents worth.
It appears this fella Steve has issues with his coach and he will sooner or later resolve them with Country Coach. Sorry to see that he has gone to the extreme of decorating his coach with lemons. But, from the information post by numerous members of this group, it appears Steve is abusing his coach. 7,000 pounds of beads? Let's say, like any vehicle on the road, there are weight limits. If a truck is weighed at a state weight station and they are over weight, there is a fine and often the truck is partially unload to meet the state weigh limits. From my limited knowledge, it sounds like Steve is way over the weight limit for his coach? All those broken shocks is very scary. He could be a threat to others on the road.
Considering that he has all that weigh on one side of the vehicle???? In cabinets? He could be causing his frame to twist. It just might be he's causing the mounts of the radiators to cause the failures. Who KNOWS?.
I hope at this time, Steve would get rid of the Coach and get a truck to haul around all those beads(weight).
Well Ray, I think this case is unusual, AND I agree with you on CC and the quality problems we hear about. But I don't think this one is just a Country Coach quality problem. For the most part, CC coaches are pretty good, just so damn many things that can go wrong.
Love my coach, even with its problems Steve
95 Magna 5220
Yahoo Message Number: 20554 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20554)
I hope we never come close to this guy on the road, he is dangerous. But He is not alone, there are many people out there who do not believe the limits that the manufacturers place on this equipment.
Yahoo Message Number: 20580 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/20580)
>We had the dash pulled out and some ply wood was cut and glued and screwed in place in order to give the front cap some integrity.
Boy, I've lurked on this board for a few years. This is one of the craziest things I've heard done! What does a 42' '05 Intrigue cost...$400,000+? We were just looking at some at Wheelers in Las Vegas.
I can't believe the company would attempt a jury rigged, duct tape repair like this, and expect you to be satisfied. Maybe some baling wire will help!
I wouldn't settle for this repair.
Steve Harrie
St. George, UT
Bluebird Wanderlodge 475 hp DD
(Going Back in Lurk Mode)