Yahoo Message Number: 21922 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21922)
Without starting a tire war can someone tell me what brand (and model) of tires you are using as replacement tires on a CC. Size is 22R22.5 LRH. Price paid would also help.
Thanks: Bruce
Yahoo Message Number: 21925 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21925)
Bruce,
I replaced my Toyo's with G670 80Rs a couple of weeks ago and have been extremely happy with the tires (1500+ miles). My wife had never commented on the quality of the ride before, it was always good, but within fifty miles she commented that the coach seemed to be quieter and the ride smoother. She was right. I set my pressures at 115 and 110, both higher than some choose to run and the ride is excellent. I am in CA where these tires are in short supply. By the time I supported everything but good roads through the various taxes and fees my bill was almost $3500. All tires were manufactured after the 46th week of 2005.
Richard
2002 36' Intrigue
Yahoo Message Number: 21930 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21930)
Richard: Thank you for that info.
Bruce
Yahoo Message Number: 21934 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21934)
Michelin makes a 12r xze. tire, Dunlop makes an SP160 in 12R, Les schwab told me in Nov. they had Toyo 12r, Continental makes three or four different 12r, Goodyear makes 9 different 12r's, Toyo makes 2 different 12r's, seems like no problem. Shop around but I would figure between $300 to $400 each.
Some times Les schwab gives us an extra discount during Home Comming, plus there is no sales tax in Oregon.
Yahoo Message Number: 21940 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21940)
I second Richard's post regarding the Goodyear G670. I put mine on 2,000 miles ago--what a difference in ride from the Continentals I was running. My out-the-door cost at Les Schwab in Junction City was $2900. Nice thing about the JC Schwab is that they are experts on motor coaches.
Jim Gregory
'40 '98 Intrigue 10613
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22R22.5
Yahoo Message Number: 21941 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21941)
Some of the tires that TWI mentioned are not suitable for a motorhome.
Toyo specifically states that there tires are not to be used on any CC motorhome!
Bruce
Yahoo Message Number: 21942 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21942)
The Toyo and CC split must have been bitter.....I am a diehard Bridgestone user....ride great, wear like steel, and have always trouble free.....plus the spped rating is better than most!!!
Max 98 Affinity #5487
Yahoo Message Number: 21944 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21944)
Bruce, where do you get your information? Could you please post the reference?
Don
'02 Intrigue #11427
Yahoo Message Number: 21947 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21947)
http://www.toyo.com/rv_center/tire_replacement_advisory.pdf (http://www.toyo.com/rv_center/tire_replacement_advisory.pdf)
dons2346: The above will take you to the pdf on Toyos and CC
Bruce
Yahoo Message Number: 21948 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21948)
What size G670 did you have installed? There doesn't seem to be one that is the same diameter as a 12R22.5 The 295/80R22.5 is an inch smaller and the 315/80R22.5 seems to require 9" wheels. My Intrigue only has 8.25" wheels.
Bob
'05 Intrigue 11872
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Yahoo Message Number: 21951 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21951)
I just put Goodrich ST230 & 234 on my Magna, and 3 trips tires run very quiet, compared to Toyo. Tire guy recommended, as they are owned by Michelin, and were $150/tire cheaper. Ran Michelins previously on 01 Magna, and ride seems to be equal.
Ray G
03 Magna 6267
Yahoo Message Number: 21953 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21953)
Bob: I have 275/80R-22.5. Check the Goodyear site for rim sizes (http://www.goodyear.com/rv/products/product_g670.html) (http://www.goodyear.com/rv/products/product_g670.html)). You might want to call the JC Les Schwab (541.998.3319) too. I have found them to be very helpful in the past.
Jim
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Yahoo Message Number: 21960 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21960)
Hi Folks,
After reading the link below, I can only conclude that CCI made some bad mistakes causing TOYO to take the only out - stop making RV tires and to prevent, hopefully, no lawsuits like happened to Bridgestone/ Firestone and the Ford Exployer snafu, no use of Toyo tires on RVs.
It's a major loss for TOYO and the RV owners.
Fred Kovol
Yahoo Message Number: 21962 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21962)
Hi Folks,
After reading the link below, I can only conclude that CCI made some bad mistakes causing TOYO to take the only out - stop making RV tires and to prevent, hopefully, no lawsuits like happened to Bridgestone/ Firestone and the Ford Exployer snafu, no use of Toyo tires on RVs.
It's a major loss for TOYO and the RV owners.
Fred Kovol
Yahoo Message Number: 21969 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21969)
Hi Fred:
Look at ther toyo.com web site and read the sevice bulliton dated March 14, 2006. Very interesting.
John D. Drebick, 2006 affinity 6550
Yahoo Message Number: 21973 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21973)
Fred: Take a look at the Toyo web site www.toyo.com (http://www.toyo.com) and read the service bulliten widated March 14, 2006 in regards to Toyo tires and Natinal RV. Alos look at John D. Drebick
Yahoo Message Number: 21974 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21974)
So the Toyo's on my 6 year old coach shouldn't be on there? Strange and I thought I was getting great service from my Toyo's! Thanks for setting me straight.
Ray
2000 Intrigue (over 65,000 miles on Toyo's that shouldn't be on my motorhome.)
motorhome.
CC
Yahoo Message Number: 21975 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21975)
Hope your not saying the tires are 6 years old!
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731
Yahoo Message Number: 21979 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21979)
I checked the specs on the Toyo, Goodyear G670 and Michelin tires.
The Goodyear G670 RV tire is 0.7" wider than the Toyo and Michelin.
When I look at the spacing between my dual tires, the space is already less than one inch with the Toyo tires, so switching to the wider G670 is not an option for me. The Michelin 12R22.5 has the EXACT same profile as the Toyo tire -- same diameter, same width, same exact size. I'm not willing to run the risk of reducing the space between the duals, so it looks like Michelin XZE's are in my future.
Bob
2003 Intrigue
Yahoo Message Number: 21980 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21980)
I just replaced my 6 year old Toyo's after making the trip from Florida to Alaska and back last without any problems. Had a total of 54,000 miles on them and kept them inflated to max pressure.
Replaced them with G670RV Goodyear tires. So far very pleased with the smoother ride over the Toyos.
Jim Hughes
2000 Allure #30511
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Yahoo Message Number: 21988 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21988)
Bob,
I have also been looking at Michelin tires to replace my aging Toyo's.
Did you choose the XZE instead of another type such as the XZ2 for any particular reason. I read the XZE spec, and it said it was designed for "high scrub" applications. Not sure what that means and RV's may qualify anyway. Just curious, is pricing or availablity a concern? I spoke with a dealer recently, and he was recommending the XZ2 line. I personally want the smoothest ride I can get with adequate safety.
Thanks,
Rob
'02 Intrigue #11480
I'm not willing to run the risk of reducing the space between
Yahoo Message Number: 21993 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21993)
Yep, that is exactly what I am saying.
11731
Yahoo Message Number: 21994 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21994)
Hi Rob; Yes, I agree that the XZ2 is another perfect match on the Toyo 12R22.5 specs and is a good choice.
Bob
Toyo's.
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Yahoo Message Number: 21995 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21995)
Bob,
On the Toyo website tire inflation table at the following address:
http://www.toyo.com/rv_center/rv_inflation_tables.pdf (http://www.toyo.com/rv_center/rv_inflation_tables.pdf)
Toyo states their 12R22.5 is equivalent to the Michelin 295/80R22.5. I haven't checked the Michelin site. I just thought it was interesting.
Kevin
05 Intrigue
11886
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Yahoo Message Number: 21996 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21996)
As long as you have kept your pressures up and you have inspected your tires thoroughly for cracks, lumps, and tred deformation, I "guess your OK" But I had a friend try to stretch his Michelins 90 days and it cost a rear quarter panel, wiring and a new radiator.etc, etc. . I appreciate the heads up on the goodyears possibly rubbing in the dual position..
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731
Yahoo Message Number: 21999 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/21999)
Ray,
I wouldn't run right out and change them because Toyo & CC may be having problems, that is unless you have a lot of money burning a hole in your pocket.
Gary F. Bender
04' Intigue (Toyo tires since new, work good and staying on)
Yahoo Message Number: 22001 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/22001)
The G670RV's do not touch. Of course any tire on dual will touch if not inflated properly, even the TOYO's I had.
Jim Hughes
2000 Allure #30511
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Yahoo Message Number: 22005 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/22005)
I appreciate everyone contributing so much thoughtful conversation on such an important topic. Buying 8 new tires for my coach almost requires a bank loan and is not an activity to be entered into lightly.
Many years ago, I read that the tire spacing is a critical factor in dual applications for heat dissipation. I know that the G670's don't touch because nice people like Jim have contributed to this forum. My concern is "does the spacing on the G670 in a dual application meet the minimum manufacturers requirement"? I understand that when dual tire spacing is reduced, the duals do not cool as well because the tires radiate heat to each other and this extra heat can cause premature tire failure.
So the issue as I see it is NOT if they touch, but if the spacing meets or exceeds that manufacturers specification for dual applications.
The Goodyear web site does not have any tire separation specification listed.
The Michelin web site has the spacing spec for the 12R22.5 as 13.2 inches, which is the same spec as the Toyo tires and the same spec as my 2003 Intrigue.
If anyone knows a reliable source for the Goodyear spacing specs for the G670 RV 295/80R22.5 tire, please share it with us. I have not eliminated the G670RV tire from my consideration, but I must say that the Michelins are looking like a better fit for my coach -- and anything that gives me greater "peace of mind" is a good thing.
Thanks for all your help.
Bob Kumza
2003 Intrigue
Yahoo Message Number: 22013 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/22013)
I changed my Toyo's to the Goodyear G670's in December 2005. I use Smartire and have been watching the readings on the temperatures.
So far, the temps on the front tires while not high, have been higher than any of the duals. Both the inside and outside duals have been a few degrees of each other. Of course the weather has been on the cool side so far, so the summer here in Florida will provide even more data in how the tires perform.
I am not promoting Goodyear over any other brand and can only speak to my own experiences with these tires so far. Hopefully, the research I did before hand will pay off in years to come.
Jim Hughes
2000 Allure #30511
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Yahoo Message Number: 22025 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/22025)
Question:
It looks to me that the Good Year G159-22.5 Load range H is a very, very near match to the Toyo M111Z that came originaly on my coach or am I missing something?
Marvin Swenson
2001 intrigue 36'#11314
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