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Title: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Carolinagirl1119 on June 06, 2006, 09:31:09 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 23209 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23209)
When we picked up our CC last week, the technician told us when we're plugged into 50 amps to only set the inverter to 30 amps. Could someone please explain why to me? Thanks!

Gwen

02 Intrigue
Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Mikee on June 06, 2006, 09:44:10 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 23210 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23210)
That is an easy one... STUPID TECH. The 30 amp setting is when you are on a 40 amp service the invertor will limit the draw to 30 amps.

When we picked up our CC last week, the technician told us when we're plugged into 50 amps to only set the inverter to 30 amps. Could someone please explain why to me? Thanks!

Gwen

02 Intrigue
Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Carolinagirl1119 on June 07, 2006, 06:49:21 am
Yahoo Message Number: 23219 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23219)
So what do you normally set yours to when you're on 50 amps?
Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Kaena65_80 on June 07, 2006, 07:03:26 am
Yahoo Message Number: 23220 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23220)
Gwen,

What if I'm hooked up to a standard household wall outlet (110vac/15- amps) and I want to heat up my coffee in the microwave without tripping a breaker? When selecting Inverter, will the household connection be disabled, as would happen if I selected Generator? What power selection do you recommend under this condition? With a 30-amp selection, my coffee only gets lukewarm.

Thanks.

Gary C.
Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Bob Stephens on June 07, 2006, 10:22:23 am
Yahoo Message Number: 23224 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23224)
Gwen, your inverter is also the battery charger. The setting the tech was referring to determines how much power the inverter will use to charge the batteries while you are connected to shore power. If you are on a 50amp campground breaker, it really provides 100amps total, 50 on each leg. A 30amp campground breaker only provides 30amps as it is only one leg. I suspect that 30amp is the largest setting on your inverter and it allows the charger to pull its maximum current for battery charging. This will charge your batteries the quickest. If you are plugged into a 30amp breaker in a campground, you may have to move the charging amp setting to something lower, like 15amp, especially if your batteries are low. Otherwise, if you try to run the microwave or air conditioner while the inverter is bulk charging, you'll probably blow the campground breaker. Does this help?

Bob

'05 Intrigue 11872

Quote from: carolinagirl1119
Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Sue Conant on June 07, 2006, 11:52:51 am
Yahoo Message Number: 23228 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23228)
Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Why only 30 amps?Thank you...now I know why people talk about changing the inverter settings. It makes a lot more sense.
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Sue

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Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Larry F on June 07, 2006, 01:04:51 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 23230 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23230)
Yes, that cleared it up for me too. I never did understand what this setting was supposed to do, even after reading the inverter manual.
Must of missed it. It all makes sense now. Thanks Bob!

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Thank you...now I know why people talk about changing the inverter

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Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Carolinagirl1119 on June 07, 2006, 08:14:24 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 23238 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23238)
I really appreciate all of you helping out this "newbie"! Coming from a travel trailer, I'm having a little overwhelmed with all the gadgets and that 16" stack of manuals!
Anyway, from what I'm understanding, if I'm plugged into 50 amps and set the inverter to xxx amps, I'm still getting 50 amps into the coach but xxx of them will be allocated to charging the batteries if needed. So that leaves 50 minus xxx for everything else. Is this correct?

Gwen 02 Intrigue

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Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Carolinagirl1119 on June 07, 2006, 08:15:15 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 23239 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23239)
I really appreciate all of you helping out this "newbie"! Coming from a travel trailer, I'm having a little overwhelmed with all the gadgets and that 16" stack of manuals!
Anyway, from what I'm understanding, if I'm plugged into 50 amps and set the inverter to xxx amps, I'm still getting 50 amps into the coach but xxx of them will be allocated to charging the batteries if needed. So that leaves 50 minus xxx for everything else. Is this correct?

Gwen 02 Intrigue

Quote from: Larry Feather
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Yes, that cleared it up for me too. I never did understand what

this

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setting was supposed to do, even after reading the inverter

manual.

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Must of missed it. It all makes sense now. Thanks Bob! >

[quote author=Sue Conant

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> Thank you...now I know why people talk about changing the

inverter
Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Seven_siamese_cats on June 08, 2006, 01:20:51 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 23262 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23262)
That feature is to limit the power consumed by the battery charger. I think that using it may not charge the battery effectively (there must be a reason it requires that much current at that phase in the recharge cycle). The best time to use it is when you are on 20 amps (or even 15 amps, although this low of a current source can damage your A/C).

As an aside, there are 100 amps available inside the coach. 50 amp hookups have 2 50 amp legs (out of phase).

Quote from: carolinagirl1119
Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Bob Stephens on June 08, 2006, 11:20:50 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 23268 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23268)
Close. You are actually getting 100amps into the coach. The inverter side is getting 50amps of which xxx is the "MAXIMUM" that the charger will draw and the rest is for everything else. Once the charger is float charging it draws much less than the xxx. There should be a setting on your inverter panel (Meter Mode) that lets you see how many AC amps the inverter is drawing. You can look at this from time to time to see what is what under different conditions.
Your air conditioners, washer/dryer, floor heat, etc are on the non-inverter panel. They share the 100amps with the inverter.
Exactly what is what is hard to determine without knowing the panel wiring. Hope I didn't just make things more confusing.

Bob

'05 Intrigue 11872

Quote from: carolinagirl1119
Title: Re: Why only 30 amps?
Post by: Carolinagirl1119 on June 09, 2006, 07:41:04 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 23287 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/23287)
Bob, I think I understand it now. Thanks so much for your help!

Gwen '02 Intrigue

Quote from: Bob Stephens
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Close. You are actually getting 100amps into the coach. The > inverter side is getting 50amps of which xxx is the "MAXIMUM" that

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charger will draw and the rest is for everything else. Once the > charger is float charging it draws much less than the xxx. There > should be a setting on your inverter panel (Meter Mode) that lets

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see how many AC amps the inverter is drawing. You can look at this > from time to time to see what is what under different conditions.
Your air conditioners, washer/dryer, floor heat, etc are on the > non-inverter panel. They share the 100amps with the inverter.
Exactly what is what is hard to determine without knowing the panel > wiring. Hope I didn't just make things more confusing.

Bob

'05 Intrigue 11872

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> I really appreciate all of you helping out this "newbie"! Coming > > from a travel trailer, I'm having a little overwhelmed with all

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gadgets and that 16" stack of manuals! > >

> Anyway, from what I'm understanding, if I'm plugged into 50 amps

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set the inverter to xxx amps, I'm still getting 50 amps into the > > coach but xxx of them will be allocated to charging the batteries

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needed. So that leaves 50 minus xxx for everything else. Is

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correct?
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> > Yes, that cleared it up for me too. I never did understand

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