Yahoo Message Number: 35375 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35375)
Hello everyone:
We're currently in Oregon, heading up to JC for some Warranty Work.
Ran across an interesting item while going to fill up the Tow Vehicle at the Gas Station!
Does anyone know what Law was passed or why you cannot fill up your automobile with Gasoline. A service station attendant must fill your car or truck for you????? Sounds like a really stupid law, but would be interested to know why this was passed.
Now, you can fill up your coach with Diesel at a Truck Stop or Gas up your motorcycle, but not your car! Pretty strange.
Does anyone know why?
Look forward to all feedback.
Thanks,
Jeff & Brenda
2007 Big Ol' Rollin Turd
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Yahoo Message Number: 35376 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35376)
I noticed that also when driving through Oregon. I never understood that it was mandated by law though. Guess that I may see you in Junction City. I plan to drive over to the factory on the 15th to see how my coach is progressing.
Jim Hill
2008 Tribute 260 (in the build stage)
Yahoo Message Number: 35377 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35377)
They have the same law in New Jersey. Don't understand why, but they apparently feel it is a dangerous job that requires a professional.
Gene
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Yahoo Message Number: 35378 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35378)
I thought it was very strange also. It's not consistent. When we filled up our diesel truck at a Fred Meyers, they would pump it; when we pulled in to another station, they would pump gas, but not diesel.
Rod
2008 Inspire Founders Edition
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Yahoo Message Number: 35379 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35379)
Used to live in Eugene and its been that way for over 30 years Allen
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they apparently feel it is a dangerous job that requires a professional.
Yahoo Message Number: 35381 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35381)
I'm an Oregonian and can tell you that there are several reasons for this in our folklore. The first reason is safety. They don't want people driving off with the hose still attached or smoking while pumping - an attendant keeps these things in check. They also want attendants that have training in how to turn off the pumping system emergency shut-off and how to respond to fuel spills. The BIGGEST reason was an economic reason. Oregon had employment issues (still does) at the time this law was enacted and this piece of legislation protected jobs. As far as I can tell, this law only applies to highly flammable fuel. Since diesel is not highly flammable like gasoline or LPG, customers are allowed to pump it. However, you'll find that many small stations in Oregon will insist on pumping it because the management wants it that way. Hope this helps. Jim Twamley, Professor of RVing.
Yahoo Message Number: 35386 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35386)
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First I'm surprised that about motorcycles, BECAUSE as a former petroleum dealer in eastern PA and NJ, the law stated "gasoline." The law dates back to the "dark ages" of the automobile. At one time in NJ it was "law" that you needed 5 hours of "training" before you could work at a gas station pumping gas. Now, we've all got many hours more than 5 pumping it ourselves, BUT Oregon and NJ have kept the law stating that it helps employment while being "safer." In many years and owning and servicing about 15 gas station in NJ and PA, I can only remember a small number of "driveoffs" where the hose or nozzle was pulled off the pump. And a couple that I can remember were in fact in NJ where the attendant forgot to put back the nozzle, so "what use was the 5 hours of training?" Besides, todays new pumps are totally different than back in the 30's and 40's. There are safety valves at the base of the dispensor that will shut off the flow of product if the pump is pulled or knocked off its base or if there is a fire there is a fuesable link that also shuts it off. Now the reason that diesel is not included is two fold, diesel stations did not become popular until probably the 40's and the law was never changed to include them.
And "pump jockeys" do not like to get their hands "that dirty!" And I don't at truck stops there are enough "pump jockeys" to handle all the trucks at busy truck stops. If you have a commercial business establishment for your own fleet and your own gas and diesel pumps the law does not exist there. Only at retail fueling facilities.
But today at most NJ gas stations the "pump jockey" cannot even speak English let alone they also probably don't know where the big-red- safety shut off button is.
bill n barb -- poconoc of pa -- 1988 cc prevost 40' xl
Yahoo Message Number: 35388 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35388)
Good morning,
Maybe to some of you the law may seem out of date but on cold mornings with temperatures below freezing and snow on the ground you get to really appreciate having some twenty year old out there filling the vehicle while you and the wife sit in comfort.
Even on warm days, you avoid getting gasoline residue on your hands and it is rather nice in these days of self service to get a little attention.
I pump my own diesel most of the time at the local station but if the attendant is not busy he will usually come over and take care of it
As someone else mentioned, the Oregon economy still needs a little boost, especially in the winter and although these are not high paying jobs it does give people a chance.
Have a great day.
David. 2006 Allure
PS. It may not happen often but a few years back the car in front of me did drive off with the hose still attached. That was in California.
Yahoo Message Number: 35389 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35389)
I learned about Oregon's gas law the hard way. I hadn't been to Oregon for over 30 years so I wasn't aware of the law. I pulled into a gas station in Coburg last November. Got out of my Jeep, slid my credit card and started pumping gas. The attendant came running, screaming at me to get away from the pumps or he'd have me arrested.
When he mentioned how ignorant Californians were, I decided it best to leave his station. Since then, I've been back to Oregon several times and I like the fact that someone will pump your gas for you and it's cheaper than Califonia. As another poster said, diesel is a different situation. It seems at the truck stops you pump your own and at the smaller stations they want to pump it for you. Also I've pumped my own gas at Pacific Pride stations. Must be different rules for them.
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Yahoo Message Number: 35392 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35392)
Years ago when in the gas station business. A owner/driver put the car in park at the gas pump lane. Some of you might remember there was a time when a Ford full size w/ auto Trans would jump or release out of the park position. Ford denies.... insurance company documents several cases. The driver not turning off the engine and left the drivers door open comes inside to buy cigarettes. The Ford jumps out of park into reverse and across the drive it goes. Hit 3 people, 2 to hospital, 2 cars and a tow truck just missing the driver who would of been pinned. With the door ajar and the front wheel turned the Ford also took out a gas pump which stopped the event. This all happening on a quiet Saturday morning !! Well I guess there is some benefit to staying in your car and have an attendant fill the tank. Owner/driver of car, no insurance, drivers lic. suspended, unemployed.
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Yahoo Message Number: 35393 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35393)
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That's what makes these forums Fun and Interesting. You always get a response and usually learn something new in the process.
Thanks for all the replies on this question!
Off to Canyonville today to play with the Indians and then to JC tomorrow.
You all have a good weekend and safe travels.
Jeff & Brenda
2007 Big Ol' Rollin Turd
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Yahoo Message Number: 35395 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35395)
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Jeff & Brenda, enjoy 7 Feathers. It's one of our favorite RV Parks.
Dan & Kelly
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Yahoo Message Number: 35404 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35404)
If he would have ran up to me yelling and screaming, and telling me how ignorant I was, he would have had about 2 seconds to get out of my face before he learned how mean one Californian could be!!!
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Yahoo Message Number: 35501 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35501)
For those who think gasoline is dangerous when you pump it yourself, the fire insurance on a gasoline station is cheaper then the insurance on a church. I quoted the numbers everytime a citizen brought up the safety issue at a zoning hearing.
Bill G. 2005 Magna #6425
Yahoo Message Number: 35430 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/35430)
The main reason for not being able to pump gas yourself in the State of Oregon is because the tax payers voted that way. They claim it creates jobs but mainly its for safety purposes on gasoline. Gasoline will explode a lot easier than diesel. You can pump your own diesel but if you pump your own gas, the station can be fined a substantial amount. But there is no reason whatsoever for these attendants to be rude to our out of staters who are not familiar with these practices.
I agree with you if they yelled at me, I stick a fist in their nose.
If it any consolation, some of the attendants are rude to everyone.
This does not make our gas more expensive as we are in the top 5, yet California and Washington charge more for gas than Oregon. Figure that one out. Hope this helps you out of staters. Jim