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Title: Hurricane again
Post by: Tom And Sherry Royer on November 20, 2002, 04:47:02 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3264 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3264)
Yesterday, I was going to report to the group that my Hurricane, after its last repair 14 days ago, was running great!
That was before I woke up two nights ago and notice that the fan was running, but no Hurricane. I went to the control panel over the entry door and saw a "2" code. Taking out my Hurricane installation book, I saw that a "2" code means that a fuse is blown.

The next morning I checked the fuses, and sure enough, the number 2 fuse from the left on the control board was blown. I put a new 15 amp fuse in it and reset the Hurricane and with great anticipation I waited for the Hurricane to reset. There it was again, a "2" code.
I called Jim Rixon and told him the circumstances and he checked with his engineer. He called me back and said it was the "board". He express shipped a new board to Freedom RV in Denver and it is now installed. (This is board #2) As I expected, the Hurricane works great. I'll let you know if it lasts longer than 14 days this time.
I guess some thanks are in order. I would like to thank Jim Rixon for his continued support. I know that he would rather have my Hurricane running properly, and so would I, but he always takes as much time as is required to get me fixed.

I also need to thank Freedom RV in Denver for always getting me in to work on my Hurricane with very little or no notice. They are great.
Well, enough of my story. Are there other 2003 Allures, besides Walt, having trouble with their Hurricane or is this an isolated case?

Tom Royer

2003 Allure 30858
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Gary Wallstrom on November 20, 2002, 06:32:14 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3267 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3267)
I believe that every '03 Allure will have trouble until the air bleeder is capped like yours was. My unit is currently at JC getting the "fix" done to the Hurricane. Mine would go into the "overtemp" fault code. Also would spew all the coolant out into and over the expansion tank. The pumps (both front and rear) are very noisy I think due to running low on coolant. I am keeping my fingers crossed that is gets fixed right and that I don't have as many problems as you have had. I also appreciate Jim Rixen and his willingness to help Gary Wallstrom 2003 Allure 30872
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Joseph Frazier on November 20, 2002, 09:35:30 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3268 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3268)
What is the air bleeder? We've had our hurricane in several times, but they finally got it right, as far as we can tell. No leaks, and it runs until the coach gets warm.
03 Allure
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Gary Wallstrom on November 21, 2002, 09:06:42 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3275 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3275)
The air bleeder valve is located on the same wall as the plastic overflow tank. I am told it is used on all hurricane applications that used the engine coolant as the fluid in the hurricane. As we all know the 45XL is self contained and has its own coolant supply. Suggest you contact Rixen for details. Gary Wallstrom 2003Allure 30872
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Craig Garrison on November 21, 2002, 10:19:50 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3279 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3279)
The air bleeder is a device that was installed to allow the trapped air in the heaters circulation system to escape. It is an automatic device. The problem is that, when the circulation system control valve switches from interior heat mode to water heater only mode, the circ system is momentarily pressurized and the bleeder allows air to enter the system, breaking the seal and allowing fluid to escape. In the heating system as installed, there are devices that take care of the trapped air already in place so the air bleeder is not necessary.

Craig G
Rixen's
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_01 on November 21, 2002, 10:32:31 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3281 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3281)
The air bleeder is a brass colored cylinder attached to the aft wall of the furnace compartment and has the large green hoses connected at the bottom.
The cylinder will unscrew and you insert a 1/4"" plug in its place.

Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Tom And Sherry Royer on November 21, 2002, 10:53:29 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3283 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3283)
Well, I have bad news for me and my Hurricane. This morning, 11/21/02, the Hurricane stopped firing up again and there in bold red colors was a "2" code.

As soon as Junction City wakes up, I will call Doug Rutherford and get CC involved. This is two boards, an air bleeder, 2 holding tanks, overflowing coolant, and shorted fuses.
I will let you all know how it all turns out. I think it is time for a new Hurricane, or at least one that works.

Tom Royer

2003 Allure 30858
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_01 on November 21, 2002, 10:59:46 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3284 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3284)
Tom , I completely agree with you. I told Doug Beaudry I wanted a new unit and he had Jim Rixen call me. Jim seems to be very nice and I hope the fix he gave me solved the problems. I will be travelling next week and will find out. If I still have problems, I too will insist on a new unit.

Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Tom And Sherry Royer on November 21, 2002, 11:06:21 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3285 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3285)
Walt

Sherry and I are so frustrated, I am at a loss for words. I hope I can keep my patience when I talk with Doug. We absolutely love our Allure, but this Hurricane issue must be resolved.
Tom Royer

2003 Allure 30858
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_01 on November 21, 2002, 11:19:18 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3287 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3287)
Tom, I firmly believe CC has put pressure on Rixen to get these problems resolved, as the very position you have taken ( we love the coach, but ) is very serious to CC.I have every assurance in my own mind CC will follow through as they have too much at stake. After all, a Hydro-Hot can probably be placed in the same space as the Hurricane.

Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Joe And Patti Frazier, III on November 22, 2002, 11:08:49 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3318 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3318)
If it is located on the same wall as the overflow, ours does not have one.
Could that be why it is working?

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The air bleeder valve is located on the same wall as the plastic overflow tank. I am told it is used on all hurricane applications that used the engine coolant as the fluid in the hurricane. As we all know the 45XL is self contained and has its own coolant supply. Suggest you contact Rixen for details.
Gary Wallstrom 2003Allure 30872
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Rbessinger12 on November 23, 2002, 07:42:31 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3322 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3322)
I have posted some photos in a folder called "Hurricane." Basically, it shows a before picture with the bleeder valve, an after without the bleeder valve, and an after with the overflow tank. I made these changes per Jim Rixen's instructions.

This is suppose to be the correct configuration for a closed-loop Hurricane system. My Hurricane model is the 45XL. This is the one they use on coaches that don't have a hot water heater. This type of system is not plumbed into the engine coolant system, as some other models or set-ups may be. I believe the 45XL is the one they are using on the newer Allures and some Intrigues.

My coach was delivered with the bleeder valve and no overflow tank.
This would not work with the closed-loop system according to Jim.
The bleeder valve is intended for units that are tied into the engine coolant system.

I would suggest anyone having problems with the Hurricane to contact Jim directly at Rixen's. He will know what is wrong, and how to correct it.

Hey Joe and Patti... sounds like your Hurricane was done right the first time.
Rob

'02 Intrigue - #11480
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Joe And Patti Frazier, III on November 23, 2002, 07:37:07 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3334 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3334)
Rob,

Not exactly. First time we took it to Rixen's shop here in Vancouver/Portland. Second time we took it to Guaranty in Junction City, Ore. Third time took it back to Junction City. But don't get me wrong, we were very happy with the level and kind of service at Guaranty. Compared to the way we have been treated by other local dealers, we feel like we are in RV heaven. I would like to check out the pictures, though.
Thanks,

Joe and Patti
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Joe And Patti Frazier, III on November 23, 2002, 07:40:54 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3335 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3335)
Thanks,

As you can see from my other post, I have taken it to Rixen's shop here in Vancouver/Portland (it's on Hayden Island), and Jim spent some time with it.
He never said anything about an air breather valve. And the only thing on the aft wall is the plastic overflow bottle, so maybe on the 03's they started doing something different.
Joe and Patti Frazier
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_01 on November 23, 2002, 08:14:48 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3336 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3336)
Joe, mine is a 2003 and it had no overflow bottle but did have a breather.
Buddy Gregg in Dallas added the bottle and I removed the breather.

Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811
Title: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_02 on December 04, 2002, 03:18:29 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3479 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3479)
The #*@& thing is leaking and I suspect it never stopped. Last week I dry camped at my son's house and the unit operated flawlessly for the first time. What I didn't know because I was parked on grass is that the unit was leaking coolant. When I got home we had a couple of cold nights so I set it on 55 degrees to protect against freezing. Low and behold it is puddling coolant right under the unit, with no sign of leakage inside the compartment.I could not touch coolant through the filler and had no way to add any due to the filler location. I finally added coolant through the overflow tank. I told Doug Beaudry at CC this morning that I want CC to get me a new unit to replace this one that always has something wrong with it. It's a crying shame to have a coach you're very fond of and then start to lose that fondness over a defective appliance CC doesn't build. I'll post CC's decision regrding replacement of the unit.

Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Tom And Sherry Royer on December 05, 2002, 04:43:40 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3483 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3483)
Quote
The #*@& thing is leaking and I suspect it never stopped.
Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811

Walt

I am so sorry to hear about your Hurricane. I can't tell you how many nights I sat up all night just listening to the Hurricane to see if it would fire up or not. I think mine may finally be fixed. (I almost hate to say that in case it jinx me)
One problem I did have a couple days ago was no HOT WATER again. This has been a problem since I picked up the coach at the factory. I just couldn't understand why I could not get hot water, when everything else seemed to be working ok.

Anyway, I turned off the hot water switch at the control panel above the door, then turned it on again. HOT WATER!!!

Craig-if you see this post, could you enlighten me as to why this would occur?

Hope it works out for you Walt. Let us know what Doug says about the new unit.
Tom Royer

2003 Allure 30858
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Craig Garrison on December 06, 2002, 03:14:06 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3487 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3487)
Tom

I will check it out and get back to you. I think that there might be an issue with the controller aquastat but I need the smart guys to tell me how to check it out.

Craig
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Craig Garrison on December 06, 2002, 03:31:56 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3488 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3488)
Walt

Has the bleeder on the circulation line been removed yet? If you want, call me at the office, 800 925 6260, and we can walk through this.

Craig
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_01 on December 06, 2002, 05:55:50 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3489 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3489)
Craig, the bleeder has been removed ( by me) and I moved a bridge on the control board per instructions of Jim Rixen. This is in the hands of CC now, as I'm not going through any more repairs on this unit. I feel I've been more than patient.
Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Craig Garrison on December 06, 2002, 10:19:49 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3490 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3490)
OK, just keep me posted.

Craig
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Jurhee Ivy on December 07, 2002, 02:20:52 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3491 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3491)
Mine is leaking, too. I had it in a week or so back and they removed the bleeder valve so that it would not boil over. Now, every couple of days I have to add coolant because it "disappears". Also, getting some fumes inside from it. The smell is bad and causes eyes to burn.
Doesn't usually get cold enough here on the Texas coast to need the furnace but have the past couple of days. I have found that the heat pumps don't work as well as on my previous coach. I could use them down to about 38 degrees. These don't work below about 42-44.

Ree

Full-timing in 2003 Allure 30852

Gettin' ready to head to Margaritaville!
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Craig Garrison on December 08, 2002, 01:49:20 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3492 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3492)
Ree

How much coolant do you add every time? Do you see any collant on the ground? You need to inspect (or have inspected) the air fan units inside your coach to see if they are leaking. Are you smelling the odor inside your coach?

Craig
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Jurhee Ivy on December 08, 2002, 08:20:25 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3495 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3495)
Craig,

I was at the dealer's last Friday and Sat. They took the bleeder out and added coolant. During the next 6 or 7 days, I have added about 1/2 gallon. Before I went to the dealer last week, there was a lot of "something" on the asphalt under the unit. I figured it was water, then it when it over heated and lost the coolant, I did not know what was leaking. Kept thinking I would put some cardboard under there so I could see what it was. It has been raining off and on all week, so have not been able to do that.
The fumes have been inside the coach. Have not run the furnace in a few days because it has warmed up. I have contacted the dealer to see when I can come back. Time is getting tight for me to get there.

Ree

Full-Timing in Allure # 30852
Headin' to the Baja on Dec. 24!!
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Joseph Frazier on December 09, 2002, 12:08:33 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3496 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3496)
My bleeder valve is still on. How and why would I want to take it off?
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Craig Garrison on December 09, 2002, 12:29:09 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3497 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3497)
Ree;

When you go to your dealer, please have them call us and we can make sure that they look at everything they need to look at. We can also guide them if they have any questions. Where are you located?

Craig
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Craig Garrison on December 09, 2002, 12:45:37 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3498 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3498)
Walt;

The bleeder valve on the furnace circulation system (not the fuel bleeder, it is necessary and remains in place) has proven to be redundant and can cause leaks. The technical reason is as follows. There are two circulation loops in the XL, one is the water heater loop, which restricts fluid circulation to the inside of the XL box- we call this the summer loop, the other is the heating loop- called the winter loop- which allows circulation inside the coach and provides the space heat. These loops are controlled by a solenoid valve. There are two circulation pumps in the system, one inside the XL box and one external, under the front cap. When the system is running, both pumps run to ensure sufficient flow in the system. The solenoid valve is controlled by the thermosats inside the coach. When they "call" for heat, the solenoid switches and there is flow. When the thermostat is "satisfied", the solenoid closes and flow is inside the XL box. The problem occurs when the bleeder valve allows air to enter the system, due to being overpowered by the external circulation pump, causing fluid to flow out of the expansion tank and into the overflow tank, filling the overflow tank and spilling fluid.
Removing the valve is simple. It is threaded into a brass tee the has a 1/4" female thread. Unscrew the bleeder and screw in a 1/4" brass pipe plug into the tee. Use a good teflon thread sealant. If this is not clear, let me know and i will arrange to have drawings and schematics sent.

Craig
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Joe And Patti Frazier, III on December 09, 2002, 12:49:46 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3499 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3499)
Hi Craig,

Thanks for the info. I worked on mine by changing out the tubing and putting more hose clamps, but frankly I noticed that sometimes fluid comes out of the top of the overflow tank. Will getting rid of the bleeder, help? I will definitely do that, but I am also concerned with the tubing. Perhaps plastic is not the correct type, maybe fuel line? If so what would be the correct ID?

Thanks,
Joe
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_01 on December 09, 2002, 10:39:25 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3500 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3500)
Craig, I've already removed the bleeder and still have a leak. I think Joseph was the one asking the question.

Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Tom And Sherry Royer on December 09, 2002, 11:35:48 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3502 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3502)
Craig

Have you had a chance to talk to the "smart" guys yet? Also, I am losing coolant, too. It just seems to disappear. It does not appear to be leaking anywhere, but at least once a week, I have to add approximately 1 quart of coolant.
Tom Royer

2003 Allure 30858

Quote from: craig garrison
Tom

I will check it out and get back to you. I think that there might be an issue with the controller aquastat but I need the smart guys to tell me how to check it out.
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Soyviceboy on December 09, 2002, 03:17:50 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3506 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3506)
Are you sure the leak is really at the hurricane? It may be running down the hose to the hurricane from the air purge valve or the air purge valve is allowing air into the system which causes the overflow to fill and thus release coolant onto the ground. The overflow tank may also have a crack in the bottom of it that only shows up when hot coolant is introduced into the tank.
I've had all of these problems at one time or another.
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Jurhee Ivy on December 09, 2002, 04:15:01 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3507 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3507)
Craig,

I am currently in Victoria, Texas. The dealer is Evergreen RV Center in New Braunfels, Texas.

Thanks for your comments.
Ree

Full-Timing in Allure # 30852
Headin' to the Baja on Dec. 24!!
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_01 on December 09, 2002, 10:21:21 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3511 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3511)
The air vent has already been removed at Jim Rixen's recommendation. The leak is coming out the bottom and does not show up in the compartment. It seems to follow the exaust pipe and then drip off where the pipe bends. As of now, Rixen is going to send a new unit to Buddy Greg's in Dallas where I will be the first of next week, and they will replace my unit if they confirm there is an internal leak.

Walt Rothemel
2003Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Tom And Sherry Royer on December 11, 2002, 11:51:04 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3518 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3518)
Craig

While you are checking with the "smart" guys regarding the Hot Water switch, please ask them why my hot water does not stay "HOT". It starts out hot, for approximately 15 seconds, then it goes cold for approximately 15 seconds, then it gets hot again.

It stays hot for approximately 30 seconds, then it goes cold again and stays cold. All this time, the Hurricane is fired off and, evidently it is heating something, but not the hot water.

This happens vertually everytime we use the Hurricane hot water. It is becoming an irritant, especially when we are taking a shower. We never know what the temperature of the water is going to be. I think this is inconvenient, to say the least, and dangerous.

Thanks for your continued assistance with our Hurricane problems.

Tom Royer

2003 Allure/Cascade #30858
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: David & Karen on December 11, 2002, 07:04:47 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3521 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3521)
Tom, We have found that for the best consistent flow of water (hot or cold) in the shower we need to be connected to city water.
Our on board water pump just cannot provide the same pressure and consistent stream of water.
Are your problems occurring all the time or just when running the on board pump?

David and Karen,
2000 Intrigue 11062
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Dick May on December 12, 2002, 12:30:02 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3525 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3525)
Interesting! We get better water pressure from our on board pump. And with the "old " water heater we have yet to run out of hot water.
I'm sure that the Hurricane system will, one day, be a better system... but for now we are.... to coin a phrase.... happy campers!

Dick May

2002 Intrigue, #11438
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Tom And Sherry Royer on December 12, 2002, 01:12:15 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3526 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3526)
David

It occurs with city water and pump. It is consistent with either source. That is why I am stumped with the temperature of the water.
Tom Royer

2003 Allure 30858
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Craig Garrison on December 16, 2002, 11:17:45 am
Yahoo Message Number: 3552 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3552)
Hello to the group.

Sorry, I have been away for a while. To Joe and Patti, yes, remove the bleeder, the hose is OK for this use. The ID of the hose is 1/4".
To Tom and Sherry, I am a little unsure of what is going on and need some more info. If flame is present in the furnace, there should be some hot water present, even if you are heating the coach with all the fans on high because the hot water heat is the first priority in the coach. Let me outline a procedure for all Allure/XL owners. Look on the top of the unit. There is an elongated hole in the top of the box, near the fuel bleeder valve. Look down into that hole and see if there is a number visible. The number should be 4. If there is any other, smaller, number visible, your need to adjust the temp valve. Best way is with a flat blade screwdriver and the knob needs to be pushed to the right. The number 4 should show in the slot. If you want to take the top of the box off to get direct access to the valve, that's ok too. If anyone wants a complete explanation of the procedure, calll Jim at 800-925-6260 and he will walk you through. I am on the road this week.
C
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_01 on December 18, 2002, 09:07:36 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3558 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3558)
A note of caution re bleeder valves-----remove it but don't throw it away. I just came from Dallas where my Hurricane was replaced due to multiple problems. Everything was OK until the first night when I heard a roaring surf noise in my coach. I got up twice to see if the washing machine was on.
It turned out to be air in the coolant lines for the Hurricane which couldn't get out since I had removed the bleeder. They asked if I had it and I told them I threw it away per Jim Rixen's instructions. I don't know how they finally got rid of the air, but the unit is now working well and is quiet.
Just a suggestion in case you ever have to drain and refill your coolant.

Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Joe And Patti Frazier, III on December 18, 2002, 10:44:00 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3562 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3562)
Thanks,

I haven't taken mine out yet, but have the 1/4" plug as per Craig's instructions. Did you take yours out? Was it hard to do? Thanks,

Joe and Patti
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_01 on December 20, 2002, 03:32:15 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3569 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3569)
I don't know if this question is addressed to me, but I'll answer it anyway.
Yes, I took it out, and no it isn't hard to do. I did put a little mylar tapeon the joint.

Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Joe And Patti Frazier, III on December 20, 2002, 11:38:57 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 3575 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/3575)
I was asking anyone who had done it, I appreciate you answering. Thanks.
Title: Hurricane again
Post by: Tom And Sherry Royer on December 19, 2003, 12:18:50 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 7669 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/7669)
This hurricane discussion is so depressing! Like Walt, I an now on my second Hurricane. I had the original hurricane replaced in March, 2003. I have had 7 codes, 2 codes, and continual loss of coolant.
When is Country Coach going to get on board and get these things fixed so we can enjoy our coaches?

I am going to have a new board installed on Saturday. This is supposed to solve the continuous 2 Code problem. I will let you know.
I have had the coolant system pressured checked at the factory to see if there is there was a leak in the system, but after 2 hours with 15 pounds of pressure on the system (the pressure cap is 7 pounds) no leaks were found. No solution, just a continuous loss of coolant.

Isn't it time to get rid of the Hurricane and install the HydroHot?

I wish this Hurricane problem would go away!!

Tom Royer

2003 Allure #30858
Title: Re: Hurricane again (and again)
Post by: Bill Harris on December 19, 2003, 12:31:06 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 7670 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/7670)
Hi Tom,

I know what you are saying, the Hurricane can put a real damper on things, no heat or hot water, period, if it goes out.
Many of us seem to have had problems of one sort or another with it. Just adds to the frustration when the dealers either don't know, or don't care how to trouble-shoot and fix these common problems.

Bill Harris

03 Allure 1st Ave 30912
Datastorm
Title: Re: Hurricane again (and again)
Post by: Matt Hylbom on December 19, 2003, 12:38:11 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 7671 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/7671)
We are considering the purchase of a 1998 Allure. What type of heat/ hot water would this coach have?

Thanks
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Walt Rothermel_01 on December 19, 2003, 02:41:24 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 7672 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/7672)
I guess I'm more tolerant than some about these Hurricane problems because mine seemd to be working just fine for many months ( the entire unit was replaced some time ago). I just finished attempting the fix Mike gave us in his latest e-mail, but my board isn't configured the same as his. The middle screw in the dual 7-pin connector strip is red, not brown, and there is a green/gray striped wire connected to the bottom middle screw. Also, ther are no labels i.e.(p+ or sw) on the strip. My board is identified as "ITR Board modification #1 V2001
1522

This board was replaced I'm guessing early 2003.
Happily, I've now gone through three nights operating the furnace with no loss of coolant. Maybe my theory of replacing coolant which disappeared over the summer months is accurate.

Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again (and again)
Post by: Walt Rothermel_02 on December 19, 2003, 02:50:59 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 7673 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/7673)
I believe the 98 Allure has a combination lp gas/ electric water heater and a separate lp gas furnace. That was the common usage prior to installing the Hurricane furnace ( still with seperate water heater) in 2000 models. This is based on my previous ownership of '97 and 2000 Intrigues, and I believe the Allures had the same system. At any rate it will be superior the the Hurricane combo units we now have that are causing all the problems.

Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811
Title: Re: Hurricane again (and again)
Post by: Dick Campagna on December 19, 2003, 05:42:54 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 7677 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/7677)
From: "spiker1029" Spiker1029@...>
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I believe the 98 Allure has a combination lp gas/ electric water > heater and a separate lp gas furnace. (snip)
As does our '98 Intrigue. I do love the concept of the Hurricane; however, the apparent better dependability of the "old faithful" LP furnace is reassuring.

Dick (& Geri) Campagna
'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97
Title: Re: Hurricane again (and again)
Post by: C Marshall on December 20, 2003, 12:02:02 am
Yahoo Message Number: 7679 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/7679)
My late 98 had forced air with a Surburban propane heater, noisy, but it never failed to work. Just close the bed room door and let her rip. Tom 98 Allure 30255, 2004 Intrigue 11731, hydro hot
Title: Re: Hurricane again
Post by: Gerald on December 20, 2003, 12:47:53 am
Yahoo Message Number: 7680 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Country-Coach-Owners/conversations/messages/7680)
I guess I shouldn't complain about my Webasto furnace after reading pages and pages about the Huricane. The Webasto works ok but is losing coolant somewhere. It seems to vary, sometimes less sometimes more. I can't find a leak anywhere. CC suggested that maybe the air vent was installed backwards and let out coolant instead of air. I looked at it I can't tell if it is or not. It looks like it might have leaked at some time in the past but not recently. The overflow hose on the pressure cap is sealed tight. I installed another hose and stuck it in a bottle. Nothing. jerry confused in NM, '00 Magna Indulgence.