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Entry Step Rust

Yahoo Message Number: 69004
Howdy Campers,

The other day after coming home from a nice dinner, I saw water oozing from underneath the rubber mat on the first indoor entry step. A quick inspection revealed rust. As Neil Young put it, "Rust Never Sleeps." Not sure if he ever owned a bus. I just wanted to put this note out there so others can check their scene. Water has been coming in from somewhere which is now under scrutiny. Luckily it wasn't bad and the repair was an easy one. Early detection is the ticket. My repair experience is chronicled here:

http://www.muniac.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=69#Post69 Anyone else have this problem? It's misery in search of company. :-)

Best - Scott

2006 Allure 430 #31349
(Bus-Stead Lemon)

Re: Entry Step Rust

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 69006

Scott:

We have had water in the same place - ours was actually coming from the windshield, down he front wall across the floor behind the dash and down the stairwell wall to under the flooring/carpet.
Rust never sleeps and water never comes in where you think it should. Just one more possible route.

Bob (rthandren@...)
'05 Inspire 51178

Re: Entry Step Rust

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 69014
Scott:

Seems to be a common Allure issue, I have seen evidence of water traveling through the door. One of the other 06 Allure owners reported sealing the gap between the coach and the "over door" awning housing with clear sealant.

This is on my list too, so if you find a fix, please post.
I've been busy sanding/painting my underslide supports and hitch....they were getting rusty....I have some paint left, I will check the floor....thanks.

Denis Vogel

'06 Allure #31409

Re: Entry Step Rust

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 69018
I wrestled with this leak and found an unsealed hole in the long Giard awning that extends over the door. I removed the front awning fairing and as I recall, the wires going through the coach were not sealed. After sealing with clear sealant, I sprayed a hose on it and did not see any leaks and have not seen any after rain. I hope it's fixed. I think the water was migrating down to the step floor through the front door chanel.

Larry, 03 Allure, 30856

Re: Entry Step Rust

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 69027
Are you saying you fixed just the result of the leak, the source of the leak or both? Let us know and if you are still looking for the source, we might be able to help.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731

Re: Entry Step Rust

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 69033
Tom,

The purpose of my post was two fold. 1 - To draw attention to this situation for the benefit of others. I completely missed it and I thought perhaps others may have too. Getting on these types of things early really helps ease the remediation task(s). 2 - To provide information on one person's efforts to remove rust and apply paint. I think my leak is water bleeding through the entry step awning mechanism. A possible violated caulk joint?? It's occurring in a place that allows the water to run over (and into) the entry door. We're in the throws of a winter storm at the moment, so the awning inspection is delayed. In better weather, I'll get up there, take a look, fix what's required and report back my findings. This thread has stimulated some interesting, informative and helpful insights. Someone mentioned wires, and I didn't think about that. Someone else mentioned a windshield leaking. Thanks for all the input.

At 08:09 AM 3/6/2011, you wrote:

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Are you saying you fixed just the result of the >leak, the source of the leak or both? Let us >know and if you are still looking for the >source, we might be able to help.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731 >

Re: Entry Step Rust

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 69067
I had a separation of the roof cap from the side wall over the PS passenger observation window. Had to drill drain wholes in the floor next to the door jam/frame. Water was collecting at 1 inch per half hour. Anyway after fixing where the roof cap attached to the side wall, the paneling, window and door were removed, the insulation and paneling removed, the frame cleaned and mildew removed. All was put back together with new paneling, insulation, cleaned and repainted door assembly. The hi-fi cabinet was reinstalled. Fortunately this all happened before the two year warranty expired and all has been great since. I have to thank the members of team 2 at the factory for going the extra mile to correct issues caused by an over zealous CC assembly line employee. I have had to retighten screws and replace two screws on the door frame, when we got home from our 6 months trip to the NE five years later.. TWI 2004 intrigue 11731

Re: Entry Step Rust

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 69395
I looked at my entry sub-floor today. Real interesting condition. Inside to out, there is steel sub floor(supported by square steel tubes) over to a "steel channel" (a recessed channel of steel)adjacent to the door sill.
The finish floor (resilient rubber sheet goods) actually covered this "drip pan" or "drainage channel" or whatever you want to call it...it functioned as a "retainage basin" for water shed from the door sill or finish floor (or in Scott's case, snow).

So it holds water. There were NO drain holes or weeps.
I looked underneath, and there is no reason a couple of drain holes couldn't be drilled to drain this channel. It would be protected by gravity when stopped, protected by the stairs when on the road.

Denis Vogel

'06 Allure #31409
 

Re: Entry Step Rust

Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 69396
I looked at my entry sub-floor today. Real interesting condition. Inside to out, there is steel sub floor(supported by square steel tubes) over to a "steel channel" (a recessed channel of steel)adjacent to the door sill.
The finish floor (resilient rubber sheet goods) actually covered this "drip pan" or "drainage channel" or whatever you want to call it...it functioned as a "retainage basin" for water shed from the door sill or finish floor (or in Scott's case, snow).

So it holds water. There were NO drain holes or weeps.
I looked underneath, and there is no reason a couple of drain holes couldn't be drilled to drain this channel. It would be protected by gravity when stopped, protected by the stairs when on the road.

Denis Vogel

'06 Allure #31409