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Re: Blown Suspension O-rings-non graseable zerks

Reply #25 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34953
An air dryer removes moisture from the compressed air used for brakes, suspension and accessories in a diesel pusher.

George in Birmingham
'04 Allure 31038
George in Birmingham
2003 Magna 6298

Re: Blown Suspension O-rings-non graseable zerks

Reply #26 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34954
Kids... Gordo here.

Play nice or leave the sand box! We do NOT need child like replies degrading others on this list. If you have nothing nice to say please keep it to yourself or reply off list.

Okay could someone please pass me the scoop and bucket... I have a sand MoHo to build.

Gordo

99 Allure 30344

Re: Blown Suspension O-rings-non graseable zerks

Reply #29 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34957
delrobgrant .....With all the sand you have kicked up.. why would you even be looking at a Country Coach? You have been bad mouthing our product, our ownership and our friendly group. Members of this group have all at one time or another been very frustrated over some part not working. But here is the best part.. we support one another. I don't really care for your attitude. You sir, unknowingly have insulted one of our most respected members. The world you used j... is uncalled for and you really need to consider a sincere apology.
AL

00 affinity #5851

Is CC the right coach for me? was:Blown Suspension O-rings-non grase

Reply #30 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34958
rgrant14,

As a frequent participant in this group, it would help greatly for you to please follow protocol to provide your year, coach model and coach prodcution number on each of your posts. That way we can try to best help you in providing a meaningful and positive discussion about a particular problem you or others may have. Wether you are a Country Coach owner or you are considering it, identity of your current coach gives everyone a better perspective of how to assist.
That is what makes this a great group to be a part of.
To think that the problems you read here are considered the norm for every Country Coach owner is far from the truth. There are many of us that are very happy with the quality and performance of the Country Coach model we own. Even though we may have some of the same problems that are in recent posts but we may not see the problem as it is preceived by others. You will not see many responses that say in effect "I do not have that problem...". Many of these same problems have been discussed over and over repeatedly. Some posters do not take the time to do searches on the subject before making a post. Then there are those who have not tried to learn as much as they can from the manuals that are provided by Country Coach. That is fine, but it would be a more informed discussion if it were done.

To make assumptions and statements from just reading a few posts I feel is totally unfair to you as well as the demeanor of the group.
When I first joined this group, I was considering the purchase of a used Country Coach along with three other different brands. The first thing I did was read every post that was on this board as well as several other boards. I spent almost two years reasearching the pros and cons of the different manufacturer's models. I then began to ask informed questions from the owners of these same coaches. The one thing I found is that there was no barrier between the coach manufacturers as to not having design problems. Wether the problems were with the chasis, engine or one of the many supplier provided components, many problems transversed the entire industry.

Let's face it, all coaches, RV, motorhomes and such have design and sustainability issues that will always seem to surface. In owning one of such products, the owner accepts the risk of having to deal with it. Now, what is important is how the manufacturer will respond to you when you call for help. I have not owned every different brand of coach, but I do know that I could not be happier with the support Country Coach has provided to me when I yelled for help. I am also happy with the support I have been given by Cummins and many of the other equipment manufacturers as well.
My coach was used and two years old when I purchased it. I have the so called "creeping seal" in the windows, but I do not have any fogged panes. The "creeping seal" is not really a seal, but a spacer used in the production lay up of the two panes of glass. I noticed the creeping spacer in every window except the entry door about a year later. Exposure to sun and the subsequent heat build up between the panes cause the spacers to creep out of position. The windows are still fully sealed from the outside atmosphere. Otherwise, there would be the fogging issues like those currently being experienced.
I think the current fogging issues are due to actual seal failures which are no different than those that occur in a home with double paned aluminum cased windows.

I do not plan to replace any windows until the real seal is actual compromised and causes fogging. Fortunately, I had the foresite to ask Country Coach for help in getting replacement windows. I have a complete set still in the packing crates sent by the window manufacturer. Country Coach gave me the directions on how to remove and replace them and it seems to be a project I will do when the time comes. Needless to say I was shocked at such great support from a manufacturer to a second owner of a product. This is not the only experience I have had of such support either.

I am assuming that your purpose of using this group is to learn as much as you can about the different Country Coach models as you can so that you can hopefully make an informed and sound decision about ownership. Besides, you want to make sure you invest in the right depreciating asset. Of course, I do not look at it as an investment, but a lifestyle I want to experience and I have to accept the cost and challenges of it.

As far as what a dryer is, it is a component that is after the air compressor that removes moisture form the air being sent to all the components down stream. It helps prevent moisture damage to such air components as the brake system, leveling system on the chassis and all the components in between. Depending on the model of the dryer, there is usually a cartridge that requires periodic replacement or maintenance. In some cases it looks almost like a very large oil filter. Some are mounted above the rear axle and mounted to a bulkhead frame with the cartridge being coupled with a V-band clamp.
Some may screw on or drop in, while others have a both a clamp and a center mount bolt arrangement. Take a look at the Bendix air dryer web site and it will give you a lot of information. My coach uses the AD-9 Bendix dryer and it is very simple to maintain.

Take care and happy hunting and research.....

Jim Hughes

2000 Allure #30511

Re: Is CC the right coach for me? was:Blown Suspension O-rings-non g

Reply #31 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34959
Hi Folks,

Let's move on - the purpose of this group is to be informative to solve problems. This thread has become junk mail. If you want to vent - use the envelope symbol to respond to the individual. Consider this rule - if more than 3 respnses, try to stop responding.
Thanks,
Fred Kovol

Re: Blown Suspension O-rings-non graseable zerks

Reply #32 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34960
No matter which brand you eventually settle on, you will probably learn a great deal about larger coaches, most of which use air brakes, by getting your hands on any state's Commercial Driver License Handbook.
There is a considerable amount of good information in the handbook, especially about technical items such as the air system. The air dryer function is explained along with everything else around it in the air system and a solid understanding of the air system is a real benefit with these larger coaches.

As an example, the Florida CDL handbook is available online at http://www.lowestpricetrafficschool.com/handbooks/cdl/en and if you look at section 5, the air system is explained.

I have found that the handbooks from each state are just about identical. Free at your local DMV.

Mike

'95 Magna #5266

Currently in Kanab, UT

Let's all use http://rvservicereviews.com to register our service experiences and http://www.rvparkreviews.com/ for our RV park experiences.

delrobgrant@... wrote:

Re: Is CC the right coach for me? was:Blown Suspension O-rings-non g

Reply #33 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34962
Jim,

Amen,

Jock vargo
Inspire 330
51428

Re: Buying from Country Coach

Reply #34 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34964
To many times you only hear the bad things and not enough of the good. There is no real true "building code" in the RV industry. There are 100s of RV manufacturers. You can get a "great buy" on a coach, you can get a WOW floor plan but when it comes to a company that does everything it can to build a quality motor home for a consumer who is investing alot of money in a life style, nothing beats a Country Coach. I have been to the factory many many times. I have talked to many of the owners and I know how much frustration their can be..but..in comparison to any other product out there for cost and value, this is the best that there is. I am a high line sales consultant for Beaudry RV in Tucson, Arizona and I believe in the product, I believe in the people that build it and I believe sincerely this is the best Motor Home on the Road. So thank you Mr Hill for taking the time to state all of the GOOD THINGS that come along with owning a Country Coach. Class Reunion, Beaudry RV Tucson in Febuary, Hope to see you all there ! Marti Worner/Beaudry RV Custom Coach Sales

Re: Buying from Country Coach

Reply #35 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34967

CC has similarly covered our expenses when we were down with a warranty issue, offered to send a driver to take the coach to where it needed to be - even if that is across the country to the factory in Oregon, refunded the cost of the windows and the labor to install them, went to bat for us with Cat to make good on the engine which was replaced (and is perfect), sent parts overnight at no charge when it wasn't even an issue covered by warranty, etc. etc. Within reasonable limits they bend over backwards. It seems based on our experience they also demand the same level of customer satisfaction for the suppliers.
As this is far from our first coach I know that this is not the approach most, if not all, manufacturers use. Some are very good but not to the degree CC provides and most act like your salesman - you bought it, it's your problem.
What is truly indicative of the CC attitude is that one could easily argue that the dealer was responsible for the damage to your water system and the resultant damage but CC accomodated you anyway in a very big way.
I wish every manufacturer of things we buy could even be half as good.

Bob Handren

'05 Country Coach Inspire 51178
'00 JGCL

Re: Buying from Country Coach

Reply #36 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34975
To: Jim Hill:

I tried to send you an Email, but it was returned.
Please contact me via my personal Email: lewsianaexpress@..., so we can discuss your recent experience with Country Coach!

Thanks and look forward to your reply to my email.

Jeff & Brenda
#81052

Big Ol'Rollin Turd

Re: Buying from Country Coach

Reply #37 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34980
Jim,

I agree with you. CC Management has stood behind their product and I for one have met some wonderful people that truly care. If I were to do it all over again, I would definitely choose CC. My hat is off to Jim Cooley.

Joe 2006 Intrigue 12054

Re: Is CC the right coach for me? was:Blown Suspension O-rings-non g

Reply #38 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34984
Thank you so much Jim for the kind, considered, informative and, most of all, respectful, response. I, like you of a few years ago, am considering buying a used CC. We are experienced RV'ers having owned a 26' Born Free deisel for the past 9 years (98 model). We need more room for full timing which we are planning to initiate in spring/summer of 09. I do take issue with people making statements like "who is that person" and "what right does he have on this site" and references to "lurking". Anyway, thanks again.

Bob Grant

Re: Buying from Country Coach

Reply #39 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34985
Well said, Joe. I bought my first CC in '96, and Jim Cooley handled all calls at that time. No matter where I was, I could call him for help or directions to where I could get help. The same is true of Doug Rutherford. The thing people must understand is that the CC people are human and deserve common courtesy. I have found they will go the extra mile for me just because I'm reasonable in my requests and decent in my approach.

Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811

Re: Buying from Country Coach

Reply #40 –
Yahoo Message Number: 34989
Walt,

Thanks, The people that make any company survive sometimes go unrecognized. And the survival of the company depends upon these individuals solely. Not only the employee but the purchaser also. Without them the company will fail. The company is nothing without the people. If it fails, you and I will be the ones to pay the price. We as purchasers should formulate a list of those people that have performed with utmost courtesy, professionalism and have stood out above all others to make sure that there commitment to build the best are recognized. We all know sometime in the corporate structure thay are forgotten!! So take the time to say THANK YOU!
Joe 2006 Intrigue 12054

Re: Buying from Country Coach

Reply #41 –
Yahoo Message Number: 35051
Well said ....+ Bob Handren.....

We're also are among the fortunate that haven't xperienced the Se-Gi fogging.

We're currently sitting in the JCity area having a variety of coach repairs/maintenance done, including buying parts at CC. A week ago, waiting in the parts + service office, I overheard Kari, the 800 receptionist handling calls. That morning she managed 35 calls ( they keep a tally) within ONE HOUR for parts /service, etc. Although overwhelmed, she remained pleasant, despite an occaisional angry caller who were not aware of the busyness. She immediately passes on our calls to the appropriate dept. Another realization, is when someone calls requesting emergency help, when in reality, they want faster response....not realizing others may be facing danger in a legitimate roadside emergency. They get deserved priority. Those in business are well aware of the value a point of contact /personnel represent. My current 1st hand experience with several CC persons (tech support, parts, Kari, etc.) renewed my decision/faith in CC. Happy travels.

Don, 2000, Allure, #30580; '07 CRV.

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Re: Buying from Country Coach

Reply #42 –
Yahoo Message Number: 35196
After reading of this experience, I would hope that all of us would tell all of "our friends & neighbors" to avoid at all costs, the RV dealer, Western Motor Coach, Fife, WA.

I live in Washington, and I hope that CC takes action to de-certify this dealer. I will tell my friends about them.

Brad Ward

2000 Magna 5916