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Updating interior

Yahoo Message Number: 84265
I have a 2000 CC Intrigue 40'. I want to replace the following: Carpet, tile, wall paper and window boxes re-covered.
Is there anything special to note on what type of carpet you need to use or not use? the same with tile and or hardwoods? I just want to know if the flex of the coach does not work well with certain kinds of materials, etc.

Thanks

Re: Updating interior

Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 84267
Michael,

Hi there, We've been updating coaches for years - as well as built our fair share of conversions. (busses, trucks, trailers, etc..)

So where to start... Flooring! Almost any product good enough for your house is good enough for the coach. Now that being said, theirs many different ways to install such products. Over the years we've probably installed just about everything that can possibly go in to one of these units. On the basic re-model the biggest one two punch is going to be floors. The current trend (going on about 5 years now) is to remove all the carpet and replace with a hard surface. Many options there; laminate is an ok choice, can be labor intensive & easily damaged from water. Hardwood & tile is always great, but again very labor intense. We use a rubber flooring that has both wood & tile look's, very durable (commercial grade product) less labor for install sometimes a little more prep time then some others. Carpet is normally the cheapest, unless you go with a really high end grade, for sure the least amount of labor.
Wall paper. This is one area I always try to find a different solution. From my experience unless you go to a very good quality commercial grade glued on product, it's hard to keep it on under extreme lows & high temps. So normally we go with upholstering the walls. Either covering the walls in place or covering panels. Both work fine, easier to wrap panels on the bench thou....
Window Boxes. Almost any fabric you like works. Being what you like is the most important part. Then its pulling off the old and putting on the new...
Good luck with your project & if you need ideas or help I'll always answer questions either e-mail or phone - - of course you can always stop by our shop and talk to myself or any of my great employees......

Jim Lewis

Infinity Coach
(253) 891-0879
jim@...

From:Michael
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 7:05 AM To:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Updating interior

I have a 2000 CC Intrigue 40'. I want to replace the following: Carpet, tile, wall paper and window boxes re-covered.
Is there anything special to note on what type of carpet you need to use or not use? the same with tile and or hardwoods? I just want to know if the flex of the coach does not work well with certain kinds of materials, etc.

Thanks

Re: Updating interior

Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 84273
Quote from: Michael"

> I have a 2000 CC Intrigue 40'. I want to replace the following: Carpet, tile, wall paper and window boxes re-covered.
> Is there anything special to note on what type of carpet you need to use or not use? the same with tile and or hardwoods? I just want to know if the flex of the coach does not work well with certain kinds of materials, etc.

Thanks
I like engineered wood. It is dimensionally stable. Adhere it with urethane adhesive. There is moulding to match. Another option is luxury vinyl tile. Tough material. Ernie Ekberg

Re: Updating interior

Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 84277
When we decided to "refloor", looked at all the options and decided on the engineered hardwood. Much warmer than tile and more installation forgiving. Had it attached with adhesive. The engineered wood is much more stable than solid woods . It has a thicker wear layer than vinyl's or laminates. May be prone to scratching but since the wear layers are 2 to 3 mills, can be repaired. If you go with wood, consider the Janka hardness, wear layer thickness, and the uv sensitivity.
Wife is very happy with the wood, much cleaner than carpets. The carpets we pulled out were > 10 years old and the dirt and grime on the subfloor was extensive. Some of the floors we considered were laminates but they are usually floating and may require trim along the walls. We installed adhesive attached engineered hardwood up to the walls with no visible "cracks".
Only thought is make sure whatever floor you decide, look at the pros and cons and make sure it's installed correctly. We've see some really "crappy" floors. We happen to be very pleased with ours and get bunches of complements.

Good Luck

Judy n Joe
98 Intrigue

Re: Updating interior

Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 84289
Posted by: "Ernie E"ernietex@... ernietex Date: Tue Dec 4, 2012 3:02 pm ((PST))

Quote from: Michael"

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> I have a 2000 CC Intrigue 40'. I want to replace the following: Carpet, tile, wall paper and window boxes re-covered.
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> Is there anything special to note on what type of carpet you need to use or not use? the same with tile and or hardwoods? I just want to know if the flex of the coach does not work well with certain kinds of materials, etc.
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> Thanks
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I like engineered wood. It is dimensionally stable. Adhere it with urethane adhesive. There is moulding to match. Another option is luxury vinyl tile. Tough material. Ernie Ekberg
Which of these materials is compatible with radiant floor heating (which at the moment does not work in our coach)?

Ken H

2004 Allure #31035
-- "The great thing about science is that it's true, whether or not you believe in it." (Neil deGrasse Tyson)

Re: Updating interior -- upholstering walls?

Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 84322
Hello Jim,

We are intrigued by your idea of upholstering walls and are now considering this for our coach, which needs new wall coverings. Can you tell us how you mount the cloth if the wall panels are not removed? If it is glued on, we're also wondering why the cloth would work better than paper.

Thanks,
Bill Davis

1995 CC Intrigue, 10096

Re: Updating interior -- upholstering walls?

Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 84323
Bill,

Thanks for asking these questions. We intend to keep our 06 Inspire for a long time, and this sounded very interesting to us also! Jim, thank you for letting us all know this too.

Mary Frederick
06 Inspire 51784

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Hello Jim,

We are intrigued by your idea of upholstering walls and are now considering this for our coach, which needs new wall coverings. Can you tell us how you mount the cloth if the wall panels are not removed? If it is glued on, we're also wondering why the cloth would work better than paper.

Thanks,
Bill Davis

1995 CC Intrigue, 10096

Re: Updating interior -- upholstering walls?

Reply #7
Yahoo Message Number: 84326
Bill (& Also Mary)

When just covering a specific wall area, it just depends which way we go either gluing onto the existing wall or building a panel and covering that. For us we determine that by which is going to be easier. If you can push the fabric under a cabinet or pull the cabinet down or away so you can get the fabric past that point, so all that you have to do is glue the fabric & foam on the wall and then re-install - well that's easy. If you can't, or just way too much involved to remove the cabinets & you can't tuck the fabric behind/under the cabinet, then building a panel, wrapping it and installing it is easy. When we build a panel to wrap, I want it to be a tight fit before covering, if it's not then you end up with gaps. You can always add trim to cover the gaps, either wood or wrapped (upholstered) but when it's tight or goes under/behind no trim is needed.
Hope you caught the "foam"? I threw in there... We always put foam under the fabric, normally use 1/8"? or 1/4"? closed cell. You don't want the open cell unless your really good, & even the really good guys screw it up. Myself, always the closed cell... What happens with the open cell is you end up with dimples. When you glue it all together you throw glue on the panel and also on the foam, adhering the two together, then you spray the fabric and also the foam, your pushing down on the fabric to adhere them, with the open cell foam the glue saturates the foam thus sticking the two sides of the foam together and compressing it which never goes away. Doesn't happen with the closed cell, but the closed cell does cost much more...
Probably shouldn't say it never happens with closed cell, I will say it's much harder for it to happen - -less likely! Smile
Just my 2 cents....

Jim Lewis

Infinity Coach

From:Mary Frederick
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 11:05 AM To:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Updating interior

Re: Updating interior -- upholstering walls?

Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 84329
Great information! Thank you! Our coach is in storage, and we look forward to checking out just where the panels can be used, and maybe that'll be almost everywhere.

Mary

06 Inspire 51784


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Bill (& Also Mary)

When just covering a specific wall area, it just depends which way we go either gluing onto the existing wall or building a panel and covering that. For us we determine that by which is going to be easier. If you can push the fabric under a cabinet or pull the cabinet down or away so you can get the fabric past that point, so all that you have to do is glue the fabric & foam on the wall and then re-install - well that's easy. If you can't, or just way too much involved to remove the cabinets & you can't tuck the fabric behind/under the cabinet, then building a panel, wrapping it and installing it is easy. When we build a panel to wrap, I want it to be a tight fit before covering, if it's not then you end up with gaps. You can always add trim to cover the gaps, either wood or wrapped (upholstered) but when it's tight or goes under/behind no trim is needed.
Hope you caught the "foam"? I threw in there... We always put foam under the fabric, normally use 1/8"? or 1/4"? closed cell. You don't want the open cell unless your really good, & even the really good guys screw it up. Myself, always the closed cell... What happens with the open cell is you end up with dimples. When you glue it all together you throw glue on the panel and also on the foam, adhering the two together, then you spray the fabric and also the foam, your pushing down on the fabric to adhere them, with the open cell foam the glue saturates the foam thus sticking the two sides of the foam together and compressing it which never goes away. Doesn't happen with the closed cell, but the closed cell does cost much more...
Probably shouldn't say it never happens with closed cell, I will say it's much harder for it to happen - -less likely! Smile
Just my 2 cents....

Jim Lewis

Infinity Coach

From: Mary Frederick
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 11:05 AM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Updating interior -- upholstering walls?

Bill,

Thanks for asking these questions. We intend to keep our 06 Inspire for a long time, and this sounded very interesting to us also! Jim, thank you for letting us all know this too.

Mary Frederick
06 Inspire 51784

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:42:59 +0000

To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Updating interior -- upholstering walls?

Hello Jim,

We are intrigued by your idea of upholstering walls and are now considering this for our coach, which needs new wall coverings. Can you tell us how you mount the cloth if the wall panels are not removed? If it is glued on, we're also wondering why the cloth would work better than paper.

Thanks,
Bill Davis

1995 CC Intrigue, 10096

Re: Updating interior -- upholstering walls?

Reply #9
Yahoo Message Number: 84348
Many, many thanks for taking the time to detail your wall upholstering method, Jim,

We'll give it a try,
Bill

PS: I notice that you seem to be having a problem with apostrophes in your text, e.g., can't comes out as canâ??t, and that's comes out as thatâ??s. I had a similar problem with an Android device, that was only solved by a manufacturer firmware fix.

Re: Updating interior -- upholstering walls?

Reply #10
Yahoo Message Number: 84808
Jim, I just saw this email again, and I hope I wrote to say thank you for the excellent description of how to do this. Very kind of you!

Mary Frederick
06 Inspire 51784

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Many, many thanks for taking the time to detail your wall upholstering method, Jim,

We'll give it a try,
Bill

PS: I notice that you seem to be having a problem with apostrophes in your text, e.g., can't comes out as can't, and that's comes out as that's. I had a similar problem with an Android device, that was only solved by a manufacturer firmware fix.

 

Updating interior

Reply #11
Yahoo Message Number: 84272
Just know if you tile the floor don't use water to mix the mortar use the acrylic mix which helps keep the mortar flexible.. Everything else carpet, vinyl flooring work the same as in a house.

Regards,
Dave

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