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Wheel lug nut torque?

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I am getting ready to install the "Crossfire" tire pressure equalizer for the back duals. Just wondering if anyone knows the lug nut torque requirements for a 2003 36' (single axle) Allure.
I'm guessing it's going to be around 300 + ft lbs and I'm going to have to find about a 3-4' cheater bar with a 3/4' drive breaker bar. I measured the lugnut at 1.5." Does this sound right? I didn't get a chassis manual with my used coach and am in the process of ordering one. Thanks in advance for any help.

Larry #30856

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Just wondering if anyone knows the
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lug nut torque requirements for a 2003 36' (single axle) Allure.
I'm guessing it's going to be around 300 + ft lbs and I'm going to > have to find about a 3-4' cheater bar with a 3/4' drive breaker > bar.

Larry #30856
Correct torque is 450 ft#. My large Snap-On torque wrench cost a bit over $1000.00. I do not recommend wheel changes as a DYI job. I don't feel it can be done with a breaker bar. How would you know when you have reached 450#? It isn't very likely that the 10th lugnut would be anywhere near as tight as the first couple tightened.

Torque wrenches are sold as right hand or left hand directionally for usage. They are intended as a final step to ascertain proper torque after tightening. They cannot be used in the opposite direction to loosen or remove a tightened nut without damaging the wrench and its calibration.

If you elect to try this work yourself, be sure to tighten the nuts in the sequence suggested by the wheel manufacturer and be sure to retighten all lug nuts between 50 and 100 miles. Lastly, consider the liability you accept.
Dave11430

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Thanks for the sound advise Dave. I forgot to mention that I only need to remove one lug nut to install the Corssfire. I'm thinking that if I place my full body weight (175lbs) onto the end of a 2.5' long cheater bar, I should be close enough to 450 ft lbs for one lugnut. Not sure about the math and will have to brush up on my "arm length" and weight correlations to ft lbs.

Makes me wonder though, how some are servicing their own axle bearings with oil. It looks like five lugnuts must be removed to get the Hub off the back wheel. I assume this must be done to gain access for servicing, but maybe I'm wrong. Thanks again.

Larry, 2003 Allure 30856

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Just wondering if anyone knows the > > lug nut torque requirements for a 2003 36' (single axle)

Allure.

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I'm guessing it's going to be around 300 + ft lbs and I'm going

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have to find about a 3-4' cheater bar with a 3/4' drive breaker > > bar.
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> Larry #30856

Correct torque is 450 ft#. My large Snap-On torque wrench cost a

bit

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over $1000.00. I do not recommend wheel changes as a DYI job. I > don't feel it can be done with a breaker bar. How would you know > when you have reached 450#? It isn't very likely that the 10th > lugnut would be anywhere near as tight as the first couple > tightened.

Torque wrenches are sold as right hand or left hand directionally > for usage. They are intended as a final step to ascertain proper > torque after tightening. They cannot be used in the opposite > direction to loosen or remove a tightened nut without damaging the > wrench and its calibration.

If you elect to try this work yourself, be sure to tighten the

nuts

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Makes me wonder though, how some are servicing their own axle > bearings with oil. It looks like five lugnuts must be removed to > get the Hub off the back wheel. I assume this must be done to

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access for servicing, but maybe I'm wrong. Thanks again.
Best of luck on your project. A visual inspection you can use.
Anytime you see a film streak running from a wheel stud to the outside edge of the wheel, either black in the case of an Aluminum wheel or rust with a steel wheel, that indicates a loose lug nut or a cracked wheel mounting flange. Requires immediate attention! No streaks, no problem.

The rear axle outer bearings are lubed by the rear axle lube. This level is checked by removing the plug at the required oil level in the center of the rear axle housing. There is no need or value in removing the rear axle hub cap except for repairs or removing the rear axles for towing.
Dave11430

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From: "dave11430" dave11430@...>

(snip) > Best of luck on your project. A visual inspection you can use.
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Anytime you see a film streak running from a wheel stud to the > outside edge of the wheel, either black in the case of an Aluminum > wheel or rust with a steel wheel, that indicates a loose lug nut or > a cracked wheel mounting flange. Requires immediate attention! No > streaks, no problem. (snip)
Another way to make sure that your lug nuts stay tight: http://www.wheel-check.com
I have no connection with the product. I saw the ad in a truck magazine.

Dick (& Geri) Campagna (in Key West) '98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97

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Thanks Dave! That makes me feel better. When you say" This level is checked by removing the plug at the required oil level in the center of the rear axle housing." Are you talking about the differential? Or is there another place to check on the axle. Sorry for the dumb questions. Can't wait until I get may chassis manual.
Thanks again.

Larry 30856

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Thanks Dave! That makes me feel better. When you say" This > level is checked by removing the plug at the required oil level in > the center of the rear axle housing." Are you talking about the > differential? Or is there another place to check on the axle.

Sorry

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for the dumb questions. Can't wait until I get may chassis

manual.

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Thanks again.

Larry 30856
I am talking about the check and fill plug on the differential.
Dave 11430