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fogged windows

Yahoo Message Number: 50392
Just recently noticed my eye brow window and door window have started to fog up, has this been a problem for others and what did you do about it.?? 2004 Allure 81006

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Yahoo Message Number: 50393
Quote from: cassjack60"

> Just recently noticed my eye brow window and door window have started to fog up, has this been a problem for others and what did you do about it.?? > 2004 Allure 81006
If you do not have fogged window(s) now, you will.
To date I have had drivers side window replaced by original CC factory staff.
This I was told would be my last and only replacement. That took a year to organize.
A month or so later my entrance door window and bathroom window started to fog.
Windows in front of seat line are a safety issue, the rest are not.
I have been told by various sources that the manufacture (SE-GI) will no longer replace CC glass.
There is a panel humidity retainment issue also to consider. Most likely from improper sealing of openings, etc.

New methods of repairing this problem have recently come into focus because of the frequency of this repair need.
The problem runs throughout the RV industry.
Personaly, I will give OREGON MOTOR COACH CENTER a call and make an appointment for possible repair durring the days before or following reunion.

MILO (2006 MAGNA 630 - #6558)

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Yahoo Message Number: 50394
Check out the following messages on this site "43717 and 43718". There is a company in Florida that will repair your windows. I have a friend who shipped one of his windows (from a Monaco Diplomat) from Virginia to Florida, they actually replaced one pane of glass and it cost about $250.00. The shipping cost was very high though.

Earl Densten

03 Intrigue 11554

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Yahoo Message Number: 50396
I have 4 that need to be fixed or changed . My plan is to go to suncoast in Hudson Fl. to get a fix in Nov. when we head to Fl. My question is has anybody had reccurance after the fix. I also seen where Oregon is getting a new manufacturer for rv window and doors. Hopefully they will make windows better that will be able to replace the SEGI. Oops or no see thru.

Larry Wilkens
05 Inspire 51309
07 Edge

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Yahoo Message Number: 50399
Jack,

I replaced my driver window two years ago. It needs it again as does the door window. Other '04 Allure owners that you and I know have replaced them as well. I will be replacing mine this early winter in Hudson, FL.

George almost back in Birmingham
'04 Allure 31038
George in Birmingham
2003 Magna 6298

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Yahoo Message Number: 50401
George, You say you replaced the driver window 2 yrs ago. Was it replaced with a new or a redo window. We hope to be in Hudson about Nov 2 nd, but I wanted to find out if people are having trouble with the fixed windows.

Larry WilkensIns 51309

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Yahoo Message Number: 50443
Larry, my replacement window was an entirely new window. I ordered and received it from CC and had it installed at the Jekyll Island rally.

Good luck with your windows.

George not yet in Birmingham(Lake View, AR) '04 Allure 31038
George in Birmingham
2003 Magna 6298

fogged windows

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Yahoo Message Number: 50447
Hi:

I had a fogged drivers side window on my 2003, Intrigue First Avenue. The end of the story was ... the window was replaced. No more fog.

How about this:

Do I need to worry? Fuel rail rupture, I have a 2007, Allure 470 with a 400 HP Cummins. I heard that some had a support bracket problem. No recall yet. Should I be concerned?

Bob

2007, Allure 470

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Yahoo Message Number: 50455
Quote from: cassjack60"

> Just recently noticed my eye brow window and door window have started to fog up, has this been a problem for others and what did you do about it.?? > 2004 Allure 81006
When we bought our coach in Nov07, the small, fixed curbside window was fogged and the dealer got a replacement from CC. Recently, the two fixed driver side windows, one above (eye brow?) and one in front of the slider, the driver side slider and the door window all fogged more or less simultaneously. I found the Hudson, FL company mentioned earlier in a magazine , but my repair shop recommended I consider Mat, owner of Sarasota Auto Glass here in town. I got two references from Mat and was able to contact one of them. Said he had a good outcome, so SAG got the job. Mat removed the units, dis-assembled, cleaned and resealed, pressurized and reinstalled them for an average total cost of about $137 per window. He charges a flat hourly rate plus materials. After he opened them up, he cleaned them and asked me if I thought they were acceptable. Some units are in various stages of corrosion and a judgment will be required to determine whether glass replacement is in order, at an additional cost. None of my glass needed replacing. An additional benefit of using Mat is he guarantees his work for as long as I own the coach. Turns out I had to use that feature because the door window re-fogged after a month. He figured out he hadn't gotten the gas pressure just right and of course honored his guarantee. I'm a satisfied customer. You can reach Mat at: Sarasota Auto Glass
1035 Lime Avenue
Sarasota, FL 34237
941-366-3036

Nate Richards
'04 Allure 31043

fogged windows

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Yahoo Message Number: 50465
Bob- All of those failures I've heard about- Cummins fixed the problem under warranty. I believe there is a campaign on it, but I know i've heard of at least 5, all covered under warranty. Symptom is fuel spraying all over at high pressure; fix is better fuel rail support. Call cummins. Mike

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Yahoo Message Number: 50468
Hi Bob,

There is a problem with the high pressure fuel rail. The fix is a new fuel rail that includes a support bracket. If the fuel rail ruptures because vibration, fuel will be pumped all over the engine compartment that could cause a fire. I attached a pic of the bracket. If it does not come through, email me off group and I will send it to you.

Heading north to Coburg,

Chuck & Mary B

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat

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Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 50476
Bob I have an 2006 and I got a Cummings recall notice. I had a total of three, all done by Cummings.

Sincerely,

Jim Spivey Allure 2006 31432

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Yahoo Message Number: 50482

Jim,

How would I be able to tell if the recall work had been preformed? I have an 07 400ISL?, could I call Cummins or is there another way to tell? Marvin 07 Allure 470 31459


From: James Spivey To: Jim Spivey

Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:55:16 AM Subject: RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re:fogged windows

Bob I have an 2006 and I got a Cummings recall notice. I had a total of three, all done by Cummings.

Sincerely,

Jim Spivey Allure 2006 31432

To: Country-Coach- Owners@yahoogrou ps.com From: mike@fleming. cc

Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:51:57 +0000 Subject: [Country-Coach- Owners] Re:fogged windows

Bob- All of those failures I've heard about- Cummins fixed the problem under warranty. I believe there is a campaign on it, but I know i've heard of at least 5, all covered under warranty. Symptom is fuel spraying all over at high pressure; fix is better fuel rail support. Call cummins. Mike

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Do I need to worry? Fuel rail rupture, I have a 2007, Allure 470 with a 400 HP Cummins. I heard that some had a support bracket problem. No recall yet. Should I be concerned? > Bob

2007, Allure 470
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Yahoo Message Number: 50521
Yes call give them the serial number of your engine,(located in medicine cabinet). Mine were all listed and I could see them on the shops screen. This included the engine low oil warning light, issue in 06 when bearings were locking up. Happened to two people that posted, something like the PTO.

Sincerely,

Jim Spivey

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Yahoo Message Number: 50522
Forgot my serial number is 31432 just ahead of you.

Sincerely,

Jim Spivey

To: country-coach-owners@yahoogroups.com From: spivey64@...

Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:28:07 -0700 Subject: RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re:fogged windows

Yes call give them the serial number of your engine,(located in medicine cabinet). Mine were all listed and I could see them on the shops screen. This included the engine low oil warning light, issue in 06 when bearings were locking up. Happened to two people that posted, something like the PTO.

Sincerely,

Jim Spivey

To: Country-Coach- Owners@yahoogrou ps.com From: marvin.thigpen@ yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 04:20:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Country-Coach- Owners] Re:fogged windows

Jim,

How would I be able to tell if the recall work had been preformed? I have an 07 400ISL?, could I call Cummins or is there another way to tell? Marvin 07 Allure 470 31459

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Yahoo Message Number: 50526
Bob

Mine already ruptured twice, yes you need to get it fixed.
Jim 07 Allure 470
31535

fogged windows

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Yahoo Message Number: 50536
Your fuel rail question may get more response if you created a seperate post with an applicable subject line.
Some folks forget to get completly out of a thread befre posting a new subject. It happens sometimes without realizing it.

Jim Hughes

2000 Allure #30511

Jim Hughes

2000 Allure #30511

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Yahoo Message Number: 50638
what does fuel rails have to do with fogged windows?................................

ddtuttle

aka Billy Byte (trusty hound)
2000 Allure #30443


From: Chuck & Mary B To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 6:21:52 PM Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re:fogged windows [1 Attachment]

Hi Bob,

There is a problem with the high pressure fuel rail. The fix is a new fuel rail that includes a support bracket. If the fuel rail ruptures because vibration, fuel will be pumped all over the engine compartment that could cause a fire. I attached a pic of the bracket. If it does not come through, email me off group and I will send it to you.

Heading north to Coburg,

Chuck & Mary B

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat

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Yahoo Message Number: 50640
Hi David,

The fuel rail ruptures and spews fuel all over the bedroom windows I guess. Ask Bob, he is the one asking about the fuel rail. Heading north to Coburg, Chuck & Mary BShelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat --- On Sat, 8/8/09, David Tuttle wrote: From: David Tuttle Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re:fogged windowsTo: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.comDate: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:51 PM
what does fuel rails have to do with fogged windows?.... ......... ......... ......... . ddtuttleaka Billy Byte (trusty hound)2000 Allure #30443 From: Chuck & Mary B To: Country-Coach- Owners@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 6:21:52 PMSubject: Re: [Country-Coach- Owners] Re:fogged windows [1 Attachment] Hi Bob,

There is a problem with the high pressure fuel rail. The fix is a new fuel rail that includes a support bracket. If the fuel rail ruptures because vibration, fuel will be pumped all over the engine compartment that could cause a fire. I attached a pic of the bracket. If it does not come through, email me off group and I will send it to you. Heading north to Coburg, Chuck & Mary BShelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat--- On Wed, 8/5/09, SMOKEY 95 wrote: From: SMOKEY 95 Subject: [Country-Coach- Owners] Re:fogged windowsTo: country-coach- owners@yahoogrou ps.comDate: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 1:36 PM

Hi:

I had a fogged drivers side window on my 2003, Intrigue First Avenue. The end of the story was ... the window was replaced. No more fog.

How about this:

Do I need to worry? Fuel rail rupture, I have a 2007, Allure 470 with a 400 HP Cummins. I heard that some had a support bracket problem. No recall yet. Should I be concerned?

Bob

2007, Allure 470

fogged windows

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Yahoo Message Number: 65753
I will be traveling south along the west coast from washington to california in the spring of 11. I need to stop at a repair facility that will remove and repair my fogged windows. I'm thinking Portland, Or, or Junction city Or. Can any of you recommend any shops. I have about 9 windows that have problems. Thanks, John @ 509 4470735. 05 Magna

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Reply #21 –
Yahoo Message Number: 65755
Hi John,

RV Glass in Eugene did ours this past summer..
Good job... But only a one year warranty..
I believe there is another facility in the same area that provides a 3 year warranty.

Might have been in Bend..

Russ and Jean
05 Intrigue
11883

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Reply #22 –
Yahoo Message Number: 65759
Check with Oregon Motorcoach Center. They did a number of ours this summer and all look like new.

S. Brandt, '06 Intrigue #11964

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Yahoo Message Number: 65815
Quote from: John"

> I will be traveling south along the west coast from washington to california in the spring of 11. I need to stop at a repair facility that will remove and repair my fogged windows. I'm thinking Portland, Or, or Junction city Or. Can any of you recommend any shops. I have about 9 windows that have problems. Thanks, John @ 509 4470735. 05 Magna >

John,

I highly reccommend Dave Root RV Glass Repair "daverootrvglassrepair.com" in Bend, Oregon.

Brian

97 Intrique #10373

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Reply #24 –
Yahoo Message Number: 65827
John,

Dave Root in Bend Ore is the best and cheapest, with a 3 year guarantee....
Just go to your browser and put in Dave Root and his business will come up..

Ken Inspire 51494