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Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Yahoo Message Number: 68758
Hello Group:

With the unrest in the Arab oil producing nations and with rising temperatures here in Tucson it is time to make the decision about whether to go on our usual five month summer trip or not. My spouse just did the calculations based on what it cost last summer and what it may cost this summer to run the Allure. Here is the result:

5600 miles at a conservative 7 mpg = 800 gallons

@$3.00 = $2400
@$4.00 = $3200
@$5.00 = $4000

We are going!

Hey! These Country Coaches are born to run! There is nothing they hate more than being tied up in the barn all summer.

Shirley OBrien
Allure #31290

Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68765
Made that same decision two days ago, but will be traveling 6400 miles at 8 mpg, same amount of fuel

same money/ Northwest and Canada, here we come via S. California. TWI 2004 intrigue 11731

Original Message:
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From: peppinmindipin sobrien@... Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:01:48 -0000 To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Hello Group:

With the unrest in the Arab oil producing nations and with rising temperatures here in Tucson it is time to make the decision about whether to go on our usual five month summer trip or not. My spouse just

did the calculations based on what it cost last summer and what it may cost this summer to run the

Allure. Here is the result:

5600 miles at a conservative 7 mpg = 800 gallons

@$3.00 = $2400
@$4.00 = $3200
@$5.00 = $4000

We are going!

Hey! These Country Coaches are born to run! There is nothing they hate more than being tied up in the barn all summer.

Shirley OBrien
Allure #31290

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Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68772

Exactly! We traveled in 2008 the last time there was a big run-up - the cost of fuel is NOT the biggest cost we have. Staying home is crazy because of fuel prices. You can drive a bit less, stay a bit longer at one place, boondock when you can, eat out less, lots of ways to offset increased fuel costs.
Report today on Fox - a study shows if cost gets to $5/gal many (non RV) drivers will cut back so chances of there being low availability are not great. No reason to stay home - yet.

Bob (rthandren@...)
'05 Inspire 51178

Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68784
The last fuel "crisis" did not keep me at home and neither will this summers projected fuel prices. Yep - CC's were born to run and I like to think I was born to drive one!

Steve 04' Inspire 51168

Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68785
We're already on the road. We just cut back in other ways. We didn't buy it to have it sit idle. See you down the road! Lonny & Diane
'04 Allure 33'
#31065

Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68786
These coaches are born to run.

Now this might not be for everyone, however this works for me.
A few years ago I bought an oil services ETF, and as a result I don't worry much about the price of diesel. If diesel goes up, I pay more at the pump, but get more of a return on the ETF.
So, If you buy the right amount of the oil ETF, diesel price up or down should be close to a "wash" for your finances.

Jim

2005 Inspire #51225

From: "cmarshall@..."

Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:00 PM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Made that same decision two days ago, but will be traveling 6400 miles at 8 mpg, same amount of fuel

same money/ Northwest and Canada, here we come via S. California. TWI 2004 intrigue 11731

Original Message:
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From: peppinmindipin sobrien@... Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:01:48 -0000 To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Hello Group:

With the unrest in the Arab oil producing nations and with rising temperatures here in Tucson it is time to make the decision about whether to go on our usual five month summer trip or not. My spouse just

did the calculations based on what it cost last summer and what it may cost this summer to run the

Allure. Here is the result:

5600 miles at a conservative 7 mpg = 800 gallons

@$3.00 = $2400
@$4.00 = $3200
@$5.00 = $4000

We are going!

Hey! These Country Coaches are born to run! There is nothing they hate more than being tied up in the barn all summer.

Shirley OBrien
Allure #31290

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Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68807
A 'diesel price' hedge. What a great idea!

Greg Jones

'03 Intrigue 11571

Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68813
? Maybe we should pool our recources and buy some strategically located filling stations..

Jon Baum
Magna 5923

Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68821
I am curious about the diesel ETF, how do you manage it? Do you sell when the price is up above a certain level so the proceeds offset your diesel purchases? If so, what price level triggers a sell? If you just ride it up and down with the market, how would that offset your diesel costs? Which diesel ETF are you using?

Thanks.
Ray

2000 Intrigue 11040

Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68822
Ray,

Personally, I don't try to time the ETF. What would trigger a sell, might be me selling the coach. What I'm really buying is peace of mind against price fluctuations. I buy about 800 gallons of diesel a year. Right now diesel is selling at over 2 year highs. Also, right now the oil ETFs are trading at over 2 year highs. Somone, already mentioned its like a hedge. If diesel prices go to $6 a gallon, I'm still going to use 800 gallons a year and hopefully be no worse off finanically. As they say: nothing can go wrong, haha.
There are no diesel ETFs that I know about, only ETFs in the oil and gas sector. A lot to choose from, I'm using iez and ieo, but please don't take that as a recommendation. If oil drops big, so might the ETFs.
I don't worry about the Arabs as much as I do our government. We seem to have no energy plan other than, don't drill, don't drill.

I hope this helps, good luck.
Jim

2005 Inspire #51225

From: "Travman100"

Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:51 PM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

I am curious about the diesel ETF, how do you manage it? Do you sell when the price is up above a certain level so the proceeds offset your diesel purchases? If so, what price level triggers a sell? If you just ride it up and down with the market, how would that offset your diesel costs? Which diesel ETF are you using?

Thanks.
Ray

2000 Intrigue 11040

Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68829

We did Ak in 2007. Paid as high as $4.50 for diesel in Canada. Best advice is to keep the Canada miles to a minimum and enjoy the trip. BC, Yukon, Alberta and Alaska are fantastic. Also, Baniff and Jasper are great.

Dave

aka Billy Byte (trusty hound)
2000 Allure #30443


From: "cmarshall@..." To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 12:32:35 PM Subject: RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Made that same decision two days ago, but will be traveling 6400 miles at 8 mpg, same amount of fuel

same money/ Northwest and Canada, here we come via S. California. TWI 2004 intrigue 11731

Original Message:
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From: peppinmindipin sobrien@... Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:01:48 -0000 To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Hello Group:

With the unrest in the Arab oil producing nations and with rising temperatures here in Tucson it is time to make the decision about whether to go on our usual five month summer trip or not. My spouse just

did the calculations based on what it cost last summer and what it may cost this summer to run the

Allure. Here is the result:

5600 miles at a conservative 7 mpg = 800 gallons

@$3.00 = $2400
@$4.00 = $3200
@$5.00 = $4000

We are going!

Hey! These Country Coaches are born to run! There is nothing they hate more than being tied up in the barn all summer.

Shirley OBrien
Allure #31290

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Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68830

What is ETF?
Dave

aka Billy Byte (trusty hound)
2000 Allure #30443


From: "757pilot@..." To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 4:59:28 PM Subject: RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

These coaches are born to run.

Now this might not be for everyone, however this works for me.
A few years ago I bought an oil services ETF, and as a result I don't worry much about the price of diesel. If diesel goes up, I pay more at the pump, but get more of a return on the ETF.
So, If you buy the right amount of the oil ETF, diesel price up or down should be close to a "wash" for your finances.

Jim

2005 Inspire #51225

From: "cmarshall@..."

Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:00 PM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Made that same decision two days ago, but will be traveling 6400 miles at 8 mpg, same amount of fuel

same money/ Northwest and Canada, here we come via S. California. TWI 2004 intrigue 11731

Original Message:
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From: peppinmindipin sobrien@... Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:01:48 -0000 To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Hello Group:

With the unrest in the Arab oil producing nations and with rising temperatures here in Tucson it is time to make the decision about whether to go on our usual five month summer trip or not. My spouse just

did the calculations based on what it cost last summer and what it may cost this summer to run the

Allure. Here is the result:

5600 miles at a conservative 7 mpg = 800 gallons

@$3.00 = $2400
@$4.00 = $3200
@$5.00 = $4000

We are going!

Hey! These Country Coaches are born to run! There is nothing they hate more than being tied up in the barn all summer.

Shirley OBrien
Allure #31290

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Re: Country Coaches are Born to Run -- Planning the Summer Trip

Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68834
I will depart next week from Melbourne, FL for Pahrump for a Fantasy RV reunion. My children live in Portland Denver and Chicago. Because of the early start I think I will end up in Chicago early enough to have time from there to go to Maine.
The ETF does not make sense unless you sell it. Diesel doubles in price so you pay 800 x 3.00 extra = 2400 more in fuel. In the meantime the ETF goes up in value $2400. If you do nothing and the price goes back to today's level along with the EFT then you have spent $2400 but gained nothing.

John

2007 Intrigue

Why does buying an energy ETF make sense? Off subject

Reply #14 –
Yahoo Message Number: 68845
This whole conversation about ETF's has little to do with keeping my Country coach on the road but I will ring in and perhaps put this idea in perspective as John does below.
I totally agree with John's logic. It does not make sense to buy a Energy ETF to hedge your diesel purchases on your motorhome.
Airlines and gas utilites don't buy ETF's to hedge against rising Fuel costs, they buy a futures contract for fuel to be delivered in the future at a set price. The problem is that if you don't sell or cancel the contract before expiration and delivery you have a massive storage problem. Last I figured, my motorhome will not hold even 1 contract.
P.S. One Gulf Coast Diesel futures contract on the New York Mercantile Exchange is 1,000 U.S. barrels (42,000 gallons).

Dallas 2004 intrigue