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Motorcycle Lift

Yahoo Message Number: 5145
My wife and I just bought a 96 36' Intrique with low miles.
Hopefully, we will have many years of happy traveling. We've considered buying a towable toad, however, we enjoy taking along our Harley instead! Has anybody installed a Overbuilt type M/C lift on the rear and was there significant weight drop on the rear axle?

We saw one demo'ed in Quartsite this year, however, the dealer had the jacks down, so when it lifted up there wasn't much drop in the rear of the coach. He wouldn't lift his jacks up so that we could the true affect of the load!

Mic and Les

1996 CC Intrique
So Cal

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Yahoo Message Number: 5146
All the MH Bikers I know use a trailer to haul those expensive bikes.
They don't trust all that load on the hitch. jerry in NM, '00 Magna, 98 Grand Cherokee.

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Yahoo Message Number: 5151
MC Lift links:

http://sig.gwrra.org/rv/hauling.html http://sig.gwrra.org/rv/hauling.html http://www.aemfg.com/ (blue ox now makes a lift) http://www.overbiltlifts.com/ http://www.rvliftsofamerica.com/
I haven't checked the links - some may now be dead. The lifts all attach at 3 points vs the one currrent tow bar point. As mentioned, each coach weight transfer and axle limit will vary.

Dan

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My wife and I just bought a 96 36' Intrique with low miles.
Hopefully, we will have many years of happy traveling. We've > considered buying a towable toad, however, we enjoy taking along

our

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Harley instead! Has anybody installed a Overbuilt type M/C lift on > the rear and was there significant weight drop on the rear axle? >

We saw one demo'ed in Quartsite this year, however, the dealer had > the jacks down, so when it lifted up there wasn't much drop in the > rear of the coach. He wouldn't lift his jacks up so that we could

the

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Yahoo Message Number: 5152
I have two friends that installed overbuilts, work great, but bike gets very dirty. Also I would not recommend putting it on a single axle(no tag) too muck weight.

Ray G #5940 01 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 5156
"I have two friends that installed overbuilts, work great, but bike gets very dirty. Also I would not recommend putting it on a single axle(no tag) too muck weight.

Ray G #5940 01 Magna "
I have had both and the motorcycle gets a lot more dirty on an open trailer. I have had an Overbilt for 40000 miles and just love it. I do carry a 36" farm jack in case the winch stops working which it never has.

Sincerely

George W Becker

gwb36@... 1999 Country Coach Intrigue #10700

Motorcycle Lift

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Yahoo Message Number: 21836

I had an "Overbilt" lift installed on the back of my "99 36" Intrigue. I bought the coach for among other reasons because it has a 5900 pound Net Cargo Capicity. With that much capacity Art Boice at Overbiltt thought it could handle my bike (a 630 pound Kawasaki Concours). I took my coach to Art at his shop in Lake Katrine, NY and they installed the lift (Who better to install it than the Manufacturer) I am impressed by the lift. It is very substantial but comes off in several pieces that can be handled by one person. I bought the electric winch to raise and lower the bike but replaced it with a hand winch when I had a problem with the electric one. If I did it again I wouldn't have spent the money for electric.
The NCC of your coach is critical. Even with my NCC of 5900 pounds my rear axle weight was around 20,000 pounds with the bike on the lift. You have to remember that the bike is around 10' BEHIND the rear axle and has a much larger effect on the rear axle weight than just the weight of the bike and lift. The inspires I've seen don't have an NCC of nearly enough to support what you want to hang on the back of the coach.
Contact Art at www.getoverbilt.com or 866-382-1369. He should be of help determining if your coach can handle it. Let him know about your coach's NCC. Let him know I sent you.

Bill Risser

'99 Intrigue #10882

PS: You can flat tow a car behind the lift but check with Art regarding the amount of weight it can pull.

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Yahoo Message Number: 21839
Thanks Bill,

I did see the Overbuilt lift on the internet, but it maxes out at 800 lbs. and my bike is in the 850 lb. range. Thanks for the tip on the OCC.

Wayne

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I had an "Overbilt" lift installed on the back of my "99 36"
Intrigue. I bought the coach for among other reasons because it has a 5900 pound Net Cargo Capicity. With that much capacity Art Boice at Overbiltt thought it could handle my bike (a 630 pound Kawasaki Concours). I took my coach to Art at his shop in Lake Katrine, NY and they installed the lift (Who better to install it than the Manufacturer) I am impressed by the lift. It is very substantial but comes off in several pieces that can be handled by one person. I bought the electric winch to raise and lower the bike but replaced it with a hand winch when I had a problem with the electric one. If I did it again I wouldn't have spent the money for electric.

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The NCC of your coach is critical. Even with my NCC of 5900 pounds
my rear axle weight was around 20,000 pounds with the bike on the lift. You have to remember that the bike is around 10' BEHIND the rear axle and has a much larger effect on the rear axle weight than just the weight of the bike and lift. The inspires I've seen don't have an NCC of nearly enough to support what you want to hang on the back of the coach.

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Contact Art at www.getoverbilt.com or 866-382-1369. He should be
of help determining if your coach can handle it. Let him know about your coach's NCC. Let him know I sent you.

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Bill Risser

'99 Intrigue #10882

PS: You can flat tow a car behind the lift but check with Art
regarding the amount of weight it can pull.

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Yahoo Message Number: 21840
Oops: It isn't the Overbuilt that has the 800 lb. capacity it is another brand. I will check it out further. Thanks again.

Wayne

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Thanks Bill,

I did see the Overbuilt lift on the internet, but it maxes out at > 800 lbs. and my bike is in the 850 lb. range. Thanks for the tip

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the OCC.

Wayne

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> I had an "Overbilt" lift installed on the back of my "99 36" > Intrigue. I bought the coach for among other reasons because it

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a 5900 pound Net Cargo Capicity. With that much capacity Art Boice > at Overbiltt thought it could handle my bike (a 630 pound Kawasaki > Concours). I took my coach to Art at his shop in Lake Katrine, NY > and they installed the lift (Who better to install it than the > Manufacturer) I am impressed by the lift. It is very substantial

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comes off in several pieces that can be handled by one person. I > bought the electric winch to raise and lower the bike but replaced > it with a hand winch when I had a problem with the electric one.

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I did it again I wouldn't have spent the money for electric.
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> The NCC of your coach is critical. Even with my NCC of 5900

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my rear axle weight was around 20,000 pounds with the bike on the > lift. You have to remember that the bike is around 10' BEHIND the > rear axle and has a much larger effect on the rear axle weight

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just the weight of the bike and lift. The inspires I've seen don't > have an NCC of nearly enough to support what you want to hang on

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> Contact Art at www.getoverbilt.com or 866-382-1369. He should be > of help determining if your coach can handle it. Let him know

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Yahoo Message Number: 21842
I also have the Overbilt Lift and could not be more pleased. They are very simple to operate and will carry any bike. I have had mine (electric) for two years and have yet to see one I like better. If you have any interest, the website is www.getoverbilt.com Dave 04 Intrigue

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Yahoo Message Number: 21843
The weight limit on the Overbuilt is due to the limitations of the coach. If your coach will support 1,000#+, this carrier will handle it. The published weight limit is a generic number to accommodate all coaches. Contact Overbilt for confirmation. (http://www.getoverbilt.com/)

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Yahoo Message Number: 21848
You may want to check, I do believe you would be illegal on the highway. Each axle has a max weight of 18,000 on the rear. The front axle is 9,500. If you get a bored Highway Patrol he may have you pull into a scale and then you'll be leaving something behind.

Gary F. Bender
04' Intigue 11701

Motorcycle lift

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Yahoo Message Number: 5149
I posted the following response to the same question on the "Open Road Forum - Class A Motorchomes". You might want to search that forum and this as the subject has been discussed several times. Good luck with your decision.

I have an overbilt on a 40 ft country coach and carry a KW nomad which weighs 800 lbs. Works well but be very, very carefull of the weight issue. The lift itself weighs about 200+ lbs which is no big deal. The problem is that the 800 lb bike translates to 1200 lbs of add'd rear axel weight when it is hung off the back. It also unloads the front axel by some 400 lbs - the fulcrum effect I suppose. The weight however is not evenly distributed between the two rear sets of tires- most bikes carry more weight on the front wheel so this loads one rear coach wheel much more than the other. The only sure way to be sure you're not overloaded is to get a 4 way weigh on a certified scale. I suspect the ratio of the distance to the bike from the rear axel has a lot to do with the effect of weight transfer from one coach to another. With my rig, I am right at the axle and tire maximum ratings with full diesel and propane but with only about 20 gal of water. Adding another 100 gal of fresh water would overload.
Another suggestion, get new shocks (I have Koni adjustable's) and be sure your tires are in really good shape. If you plan to tow I'd suggest dingy brakes as well. Good luck - this can be a lot of fun (once the bike is washed - gets really dirty back there!)

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Yahoo Message Number: 5150
Thanks ALL for your opinions! I'm new to the group so I guess I have a lot of research to do?
Mic.

Motorcycle lift

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Yahoo Message Number: 95069
Thinking of installing a lift for my Harley on back of my 2000 Intrigue 36 ft. - no tag axle. Harley weight is 740 lbs. Is this safe? Any advice, suggestions, or concerns I should be aware of before proceeding? I appreciate your thoughts! Steve

2000 Intrigue
#11168

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Yahoo Message Number: 95076
If you get your coach weighted by axle as you currently travel, if it is under loaded then add the weight of the lift and bike to see if you have enough available capacity. Now, you have to consider the weight shift, due to the lever/fulcrum effect of adding the at weight to the rear of the coach. The rear axle will get heavier and the front will decrease in weight.

Most non tag coaches do not have the available capacity.

Mikee