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montana LLC

Yahoo Message Number: 81981
Hi, is there any Ohio resident that set up an Montana LLC when they purchased thair coach. Have you had any problems. Joe Rossi 2005 Inspire 51215

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Yahoo Message Number: 81986
Joe - I set up a Montana LLC and have both my coach and motorhome under that umbrella - worked with an excellent attorney in Missoula who handled things quickly and very reasonably priced.... he continues to be very helpful to me... let me know if you want his info... dont think it matters what state you are in with regards to setting up a montana llc. jan

06 Intrigue 11951

From: Joseph

To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:51 AM Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] montana LLC

Hi, is there any Ohio resident that set up an Montana LLC when they purchased thair coach. Have you had any problems. Joe Rossi 2005 Inspire 51215

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Yahoo Message Number: 81988
Some states like Colorado and California are on the lookout for residents with out of state plates on their RVs. When they locate "cheaters", they not only make them buy in state plates but asses sizable penalties.

I do not know about Ohio.

Bob Wexler
SOB

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Yahoo Message Number: 81990
In Washington State, the cops are on the lookout for coaches with out of state plates towing a vehicle with WA plates.

Cheers, Mel

LEXA '03

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Yahoo Message Number: 81995
Hi Joe,

We do not know about Ohio but when we bought our coach in 2007 we were told that if you have a stick built home in any state you should not do the Montana LLC route as it will lead to trouble. It was a good way to go for fulltimers with no residential property.

Marta

07 Allure 31501

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Yahoo Message Number: 81997
Joe

You don't want those kind of flags. In Arizona they go around to RV storage lots and take down license plate numbers. So, people take off their tags or keep them in inside storage and this seems to work. I know people who have written permission from the LLC to use the vehicle. Some people put all their vehicles in the LLC. I know a lot of people who have Montana LLC's and have been successful: but, I do think you need to have a consistent story line.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348 (A real Montana resident)

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Yahoo Message Number: 81998
OK. Can't take it any more. Soap Box on: Isn't government wonderful. With just a few things they are suppose to do for us, all they seem to be able to do is worry about taking away from us. Soap Box off. yep! think i do feel better.

Leonard

97' Magna 5418

Remember the delete key still works. grin

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Yahoo Message Number: 82004
The Attorneys that do this in Montana can tell you if it will work in your home state. They know the laws.
Maryland is a state where it does not work. Maryland law states "any vehicle garaged in the state for 30 days or more" regardless of home state.

Mikee

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Yahoo Message Number: 82005
Approximately 15,000 laws are passed every year. Not one of them is designed to give more freedom.

They all seem to start out with "it shall be unlawful to...."

Mikee

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Yahoo Message Number: 82006
Some years ago Montana started offering their Corporate Database for sale. Many states jumped on that opportunity and use the database to cross reference. The database can be purchased here for 3600.00: MT Records
Some of the states have turned this into a mission to increase their tax base, levy huge fines and penalties. The Attorney's in MT aren't going to assist you in your home state if you have a problem. Buyer beware..

Tom

Lifeline Batteries
97 Prevost

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Yahoo Message Number: 82007
So far, the only thing I've been seeing here is not the gob'ment trying to take away anything, rather, how to get away from paying one's share. All them beautiful highways and bridges that take us all on our wonderful trips cost money.

Bill

05 Intrigue

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Yahoo Message Number: 82009
Just remember tax avoidance is legal, tax evasion is not. Do your homework, the cost of doing it wrong could ruin your travel plans.

Jim 07 Allure #31570

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Yahoo Message Number: 82011
Bill,

Do you use the EZ Form or the Long Form when you file your taxes?
If you use the long form and itemize your deductions in order to have a smaller tax liability.......do you then consider yourself a tax cheat?

Dave Trotter
01 Intrigue 11215

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Yahoo Message Number: 82027
There is no rationalization for this, it's tax cheating pure and simple. To try to compare it to legal tax deductions is ludicrous.
I use the long form but I don't create a phony business to use as a deduction. If I did, it would be illegal, ooops, there it is....

George

'04 Inspire 51061

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Yahoo Message Number: 82030
In Georgia they have a List of Montana people who registered their RV in Montana to avoid paying Georgia Taxes and they go around looking to see if they have a Montana Tag and they do give out tickets and fines.
In Georgia, if you buy your RV from an Individual you do not have to pay Tax on it but the License Tag is still around $2,500 for a $335,000 CC Affinity which I am buying.

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Yahoo Message Number: 82031
George,

I started to use a Montana LLC but decided the same, that it was wrong. So I went to pay the taxes and buy the tag here in Oklahoma. So I gave them all the documentation from the purchase to pay the excise taxes. The OTC (OK tax comm.) charge 3.25 percent on a vehicle purchased so I though I knew approx. what the bill would be. After giving them the paperwork she said it would probably be about an hour before they knew what the value of the vehicle would be so the could determine what to charge me for the taxes. I said the Market determined what the value was as I bought it from a out of state dealer that was advertising it online. I was informed OTC determines the value of the vehicle not the market. OTC went to the NADA and got the value from that. So I got overcharge approx. $1000. for my tag and taxes as you can't get near the nada for MH's as of current and especially not then. So I got cheated. If I had it to do all over I would cheat the OTC as law is 3.25% on the purchase price but they decide the what the value of your coach is without ever seeing it.
Kevin Burns

2000 Affinity #5865

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Yahoo Message Number: 82032
? I don't have a Montana LLC but I did get a used dealers license in my state and run my RV with a used dealer tag on it which costs me very little. To get the license each year costs some but not near what the yearly tags would be. I also get a used boat dealers license since I have 9 boats and its only $50 a year.

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Yahoo Message Number: 82033
I understand Nevada does something similar. I was told if you register in Nevada, you registration is based on the original retail value of the coach and that is does not go down. You pay the same registration fee every year you renew your registration in Nevada.
Can anyone confirm that or has registered their motorhome in Nevada?
Question: If you live fulltime in your coach and do not own any property; is there any issues with executing a Montana LLC?

Rick

2004 Allure, 31018

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Yahoo Message Number: 82035
You don't use your legal name or address so how can they track you to Georgia? The LLC is established with a business name which is a separate legal entity with it's own address in Montana and tax payer identification number. If you store your vehicle in sight with Montana tags visible then you deserve to get caught.

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Yahoo Message Number: 82037
Just because you have a business entity you do not file if you do not have business activity.