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What to use for "digital dash" no ECM mechanical 8.3 Cummins

Yahoo Message Number: 83736
I have searched the forum all morning for some help with this. We have a 1998 Allure with some funky gauges. Originally I thought I was running to hot but finally found it to be the sending unit and the gauge. The oil pressure gauge, tach, and MPH gauges are in working order for the most part but do not look so hot. Has anyone retrofitted the dash to digital with the mechanical 8.3 (no ECM) Cummins?
I was in hopes of incorporating a tablet PC so I could use navigation and then switch back and forth to engine data. Some of the cheap apps today look promising but no good without a ECM.

Thank you in advance.

Nathan Blackwell
1998 Allure

Re: What to use for "digital dash" no ECM mechanical 8.3 Cummins

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 83842
Check with Silverleaf- they might have a application that will work for you

Robert & Chee Chee Huffhines
2007 Tribute #81042
2006 Jeep Liberty



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From: Nate

To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 3:20 PM Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] What to use for "digital dash" no ECM mechanical 8.3 Cummins

I have searched the forum all morning for some help with this. We have a 1998 Allure with some funky gauges. Originally I thought I was running to hot but finally found it to be the sending unit and the gauge. The oil pressure gauge, tach, and MPH gauges are in working order for the most part but do not look so hot. Has anyone retrofitted the dash to digital with the mechanical 8.3 (no ECM) Cummins?
I was in hopes of incorporating a tablet PC so I could use navigation and then switch back and forth to engine data. Some of the cheap apps today look promising but no good without a ECM.

Thank you in advance.

Nathan Blackwell
1998 Allure

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Re: What to use for "digital dash" no ECM mechanical 8.3 Cummins

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Yahoo Message Number: 84133
In my racecar I did just that.

I have a galaxy tab 10.1 android tablet. I am running the "Torque" app which has tons of info, one of which being live gauges. I bought a Bluetooth OBD port and plugged it into my OBD port on my Car. The table connects to it via Bluetooth and displays the data on the screen. The OBD Bluetooth device is an ELM 327 I believe and can be had on amazon for around 30 bucks.
As long as you have and OBD port you should be able to get at some of the information. Even on my 03 vehicle I cannot see oil pressure via the ECM however there is a factory Oil pressure gauge. Odd but that is how the car is setup.

Re: What to use for "digital dash" no ECM mechanical 8.3 Cummins

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Yahoo Message Number: 84135
Looking at the Silverleaf VMSpc24. Kevin Waite has been helping me find the connector on the Country Coach. Silverleaf has a round 6 or 9 pin or a rectangular 12 pin connector. By all accounts I should have one of these connectors not being used under the dash or shifter panel of our 1998 Allure. I have torn apart everything, not saying its not there but I sure cant find it. I have read on another forum on people splicing into the Allison connector for the information needed for the Silverleaf. Any ideas? My wife is ticked I have all the panels off and wires hanging!!

Thanks

Nathan Blackwell
1998 Allure

Re: What to use for "digital dash" no ECM mechanical 8.3 Cummins

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Yahoo Message Number: 84137
Nathan

Attached is the instructions to tie into the Allison plug. This is what I did.
Dave

aka Billy Byte (trusty hound)
2000 Allure #30443

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Yahoo Message Number: 84139
Dave what scares me is my engine is mechanical not electronic. Not sure what that means? Called Cummins they changed to electronic in 99. Silverleaf instructions say electronic engine management required. I will call t hem tomorrow.
Thank you!

Nathan Blackwell. 1998 Allure

Re: What to use for "digital dash" no ECM mechanical 8.3 Cummins

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 84142
What that means is you have a mechanical fuel injections system, i.e. no engine computer to tie into. An electronic engine has the computer and electrical fuel injectors.

Leonard

97' Magna 5418

Re: What to use for "digital dash" no ECM mechanical 8.3 Cummins

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Yahoo Message Number: 84150
I had one of the last 10 98 Allures built that were electronic. Hope you have your manuals and schematics. TWI 98 Allure 30255 now 2004 Intrigue 11731

Re: What to use for "digital dash" no ECM mechanical 8.3 Cummins

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Yahoo Message Number: 84153
I do have all the manuals, even have an engineer to decipher them!!! Hope I dont need either one.

Nathan 98 Allure

Re: What to use for "digital dash" no ECM mechanical 8.3 Cummins

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Yahoo Message Number: 84176
It will not work on mech engine.
Dave

aka Billy Byte (trusty hound)
2000 Allure #30443