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Hurricane Heater

Yahoo Message Number: 27699
I have a 2001 Intrigue and am getting lots of "run flame out" faults.
Am working with the Hurricane people and have replaced the fuel pump, the fuel solenoid valve, the inline fuel filter and keep the bleeder open 1/2 to 1 turn on the bleeder valve. I keep the nozzle clean. But I continue to get Run Flame Outs. I am beginning to believe I am not getting good suction on the diesel from the coach fuel tank. I notice the inline fuel filter is not solidly filled with fuel.
Have any of you with 2001 plus or minus units had simiar problems and resolved them?

Thanks for any advice
Dave Kochis
2001 Intrigue
#11212

Hurricane Heater

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Yahoo Message Number: 27701
Another things the Hurricane people suggested to me was make sure the fuel tank is venting properly. So,I just leave one of the two fuel filler caps a little loose.. Have not had a flame out since then. But I did have a leak in the boiler tank. One end had weldment cracked. I had to disassemble and have it welded by a local welder in Lorton, Va. Total cost for fix, with my Free Labor was $ 84, for $50 welding, new insulation wrap, and pressure test hose and fixtures, etc.. All is good now....
I was told by the Hurricane experts that the fuel filter does nto have to be full. Whihc did not make sense to me. But they are the experts on the system..They suggest a 10 micron filter size, not any samller..
Good Luck

LeeCasebeer, 2001 Intrigue #11219, currently in Asheboro, NC on way to Florida..
www. OregonRvers.net

Re: Hurricane Heater

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Yahoo Message Number: 27702
I have had a similar problem and with the help from Hurricane, I replaced the circuit board, the one next to the heater! I don'tknow where you are but Dessert West in Phoenix does a fantastic job off servicing the
Hurricane!

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I have a 2001 Intrigue and am getting lots of "run flame out"

faults.

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Am working with the Hurricane people and have replaced the fuel

pump,

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the fuel solenoid valve, the inline fuel filter and keep the

bleeder

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open 1/2 to 1 turn on the bleeder valve. I keep the nozzle clean.

But

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I continue to get Run Flame Outs. I am beginning to believe I am

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getting good suction on the diesel from the coach fuel tank. I

notice

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the inline fuel filter is not solidly filled with fuel.

Have any of you with 2001 plus or minus units had simiar problems

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Re: Hurricane Heater

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 27705
Dave,

I replaced the original inline filter with a better Racor filter:

Racor Model 025-RAC-02

This filter has a large sight glass that will give you a better clue if it's getting fuel.

Also, make sure the fuel pump is working by placing your hand on it.
You should feel a rapid pulse. If not, you might be drawing fuel out of the bleeder/return line which will actually run the Hurricane.
I've discussed this before with folks, and that's why after an initial bleeding I close the bleeder valve. As a matter of fact, I haven't opened the bleeder valve on my unit in about 3 months.

I also had a problem with the high temp sensor that would kill the fuel pump. This is the sensor that is mounted against the copper tank. You might need to slightly pry it about an inch or so from the tank. This was a recall safety feature that I added in 2003. This sensor (high limit) connects in series with the ground wire of the fuel pump. If high temp is reached, then the fuel pump ground circuit is broken and kills the fuel pump. However, if the bleeder valve is open, then it is possible that the venturi from the blower will continue to draw fuel from the bleeder/return line.

My suggestion is that if you close the bleeder valve and the unit won't fire, then your fuel pump either isn't on or the fuel supply is limited as you pointed out.

Hope this helps, as I know these Hurricane units are very frustrating.

Rob

2002 Intrigue #11480

Re: Hurricane Heater

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Yahoo Message Number: 27724
Dave, I just returned from Buddy G's in Dallas where I spent $ 770 on my Hurricane. There was a lot of trial and error to find the culprit, but the nozzle and o-ring were replaced. Also, there was a dirt dobber nest in the exhaust pipe causing a lot of back pressure. The original bill was $ 1200 which included 10.5 hours labor at $ 110 per hour, but I was successful in negotiating out half of the labor due to head scratching.
If you haven't used yours in awhile, I would guess it just needs the nozzle and distributor to be thoroughly cleaned. Mine had to have a new solonoid which was pricey from CC. Also, be sure to look for dirt dobber nests.

Good luck.

Walt Rothermel

03Allure30811 still for sale with a newly overhauled furnace.
By the way, my hot water switch on the Trace panel had also quit working---it miraculously fixed itself when the furnace problems were solved. Walt

Re: Hurricane Heater

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Yahoo Message Number: 27726
Walt, I spent about the same amount with Blue Moon Rv Repair in the DFW area, about a year ago. It turned out to be a pump. It took them almost all day , talking with Hurricane to figure out what the problem was. They got it fixed and it is still working, at least it was about two weeks ago when I used it last.
William Faver
03 allure
04 jeep chk

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Re: Hurricane Heater

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Yahoo Message Number: 27729
William,

Hurricanes are just like generators, they need to be run once every 2 or 3 weeks or they will not run when you need them.

Bill G. 2005 Magna #6425

Re: Hurricane Heater

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Yahoo Message Number: 27731
Bill G. , Thanks for the thought. I went out to the garage and ran the Hirricane through a cycle. I will do that every two or three weeks. I don't know why I had not thought of running it every now and then.
I have only been RVing for about 40 years. This is the first furnace like this I have ever owned.
Thanks again,
William Faver
03 allure
04 jeep

gablerwh@... wrote:

Re: Hurricane Heater

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Yahoo Message Number: 27738
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Bill G. , Thanks for the thought. I went out to the garage and ran
the Hirricane through a cycle. I will do that every two or three weeks. I don't know why I had not thought of running it every now and then.

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I have only been RVing for about 40 years. This is the first
furnace like this I have ever owned.

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Thanks again,
 William Faver
 03 allure
 04 jeep

gablerwh@... wrote:
 William,

Hurricanes are just like generators, they need to be run once
every 2 or 3 weeks or they will not run when you need them.

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Bill G. 2005 Magna #6425
A Question. Is there anyone on this site that has owned both a coach with a Hurricane furnace and one with the newer Aqua Hot brand furnaces that Country Coach now uses? If so, is the Aqua Hot running on diesel more reliable than the Hurricane, which certainly cannot be considered reliable. We have winter camped (skiers) every year since we bought the Magna, and the Hurricane furnace gives us the most concern when the weather is too cold for the heat pumps. If the Hurricane craps out, which it does a lot, you can be in a world of hurt trying to keep things from freezing up. Pretty tough to go out there and try to clean the nozzle or replace a fuel pump when the weather is below 20F, and maybe snowing and/or blowing. Makes one reconsider whether you should be in those conditions with something this unreliable.

Never had this concern with the old '89 Beaver Contessa with a propane furnace. Carried a few spare parts that could be replaced from inside the coach.

This furnace issue is a concern for us when considering a newer coach.
Any input would be appreciated.
Brad

2000 Magna 5916

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Re: Hurricane Heater

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Yahoo Message Number: 27744
Brad, I have had three different hydronic systems in different coaches.

I had a Hurricane in a Safari I owned. It was kinda unreliable until I did two things.
1. I ran a new, larger #8 power supply line directly from the battery through a relay. Thus providing reliable voltage to the unit
2. I ran it frequently just as I did the generator.
I also became an expert at trouble shooting the unit and came to trust it highly.

I had a Primus two boiler, propane system in my Wanderlodge. This system was pretty loud and modestly reliable. I could no longer find parts for it and had to cobble together bits and pieces to keep it running.

I now have the HydroHot in my Allure. It is a little quirky on start up in the way the LEDs light but it is reliable.....assuming that I do regular maintenance.

I knda liked the Hurrican best as it was much smaller than the HH and easier to work on. But, for me who loves to use the coach in the winter, I love hydronic and my heated tile floor.

George in Birmingham
'04 Allure 31038

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A Question. Is there anyone on this site that has owned both a

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with a Hurricane furnace and one with the newer Aqua Hot brand > furnaces that Country Coach now uses? If so, is the Aqua Hot

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on diesel more reliable than the Hurricane, which certainly cannot

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considered reliable. We have winter camped (skiers) every year

since

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we bought the Magna, and the Hurricane furnace gives us the most > concern when the weather is too cold for the heat pumps. If the > Hurricane craps out, which it does a lot, you can be in a world of > hurt trying to keep things from freezing up. Pretty tough to go

out

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there and try to clean the nozzle or replace a fuel pump when the > weather is below 20F, and maybe snowing and/or blowing. Makes one > reconsider whether you should be in those conditions with something > this unreliable.

Never had this concern with the old '89 Beaver Contessa with a > propane furnace. Carried a few spare parts that could be replaced > from inside the coach.

This furnace issue is a concern for us when considering a newer

coach.

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Any input would be appreciated.

Brad

2000 Magna 5916
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George in Birmingham
2003 Magna 6298

Re: Hurricane Heater

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Yahoo Message Number: 27747
Brad

I have had both a hurricane on a 2003 Allure and a HydroHot on a 2004. The HydroHot is very reliable although I didn't have any problem with the Hurricane except flameouts in the beginning. A newer style fuel pump solved that. The HydroHot is very noisy (no muffler) and is no where as efficient as the Hurricane so it produces a lot of smelly diesel fumes. Not much of a problem in high end RV Resorts but don't expect to be very popular in State and National Parks.

Don Seager

2004 Allure 31046

Hurricane Heater

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Yahoo Message Number: 27892
Thanks to all who responded to my questions concerning flame out problems with my Hurricane Heater.

I eventually disconnected the fuel and bleeder lines from the coach fuel tank and ran the heater on a Jerry Can of diesel fuel. It ran perfectly. So either or both of the coach lines to the heater (fuel and breather) were partially plugged. I blew them back into the fuel tank and then reconnected them to the Hurricane. The furnace has run perfectly since then.

Dave Kochis

2001 Intrigue #11212