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Sewer System at '05 CC Rally

Yahoo Message Number: 19324
A vendor at the September, 2005 CC Rally in Eugene, OR displayed an innovative sewage disposal system for RVs that had a sewer hose no bigger around than an inch. Unfortunately, when I went back to get a closer look at it on the last day of the event, the vendor had already packed up and left.

Does anyone attending the rally remember seeing this system? If so, can you give me more information about it, so I can perhaps find the vendor, whose name I don't remember, and perhaps purchase it. An RV neighbor at Premier RV Resort in Eugene was using it and he liked it.
If it works, it would really save storage space.

Thanks.

Gary Collins

'05 Inspire 51491

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Yahoo Message Number: 19325

Gary, the Sewer Solution is what I have and highly recommend. It can be purchased throught the manufacturer on line or via phone I think. It uses a 1" hose and a high speed water jet to pump and pluverize the dump material. When you get one also get an additional 10 foot hose extention to take care of those long reaches we some times have to deal with.
Terry

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Yahoo Message Number: 19326
Gary, I believe the system you describe was the Sewer-Solution. I purchased one at the class reunion but have not had the chance to use it yet. My requirement was not a space issue but getting to a sewer clean out at home which is located inside a garage too far for regular sewer pipes.
I am sure there are others who can give you their opinion of how it operates.
At the Great America rally in Redmond I came across Flojet (sp). This is an electric pump discharge unit that fits directly onto the sewer outlet in the bay, mashes the waste material and sends it down a regular hose line to the sewer.
I do not have one of those but thought it was an interesting 'solution'. Price wise it was about $230 I think.
Again, someone may have better information, I mention it only to alert you to another possible answer to your problem.

David

David and Karen

Coachless in Sisters!
2002 Honda Odyssey TOAD

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Yahoo Message Number: 19334
I have the Sani-Con. http://www.emptythetanks.com/ View this site on the web. It works as David describes below. You never have to connect or disconnect hoses. Always ready to operate. Awesome system. Once you have it, you"ll always have it.

Grant

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Yahoo Message Number: 19335
From: "kaena65_80" garynsandy@...>
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A vendor at the September, 2005 CC Rally in Eugene, OR displayed an > innovative sewage disposal system for RVs that had a sewer hose no > bigger around than an inch. (snip)
I didn't attend the rally, but it might've been the "Sewer Solution." Clickon http://www.sewersolution.com/
Dick (& Geri) Campagna
'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97
(still unsold)

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Yahoo Message Number: 19345
It may have been Sewer Solution. We had it, used it, and then got rid of it. Sometimes didn't work well, so we've found the old fashioned method works best for us. We never use dump stations, always have a hookup so we can use our black and grey tank flushers. Dump black, refill 2x and dump each time, then do same with grey...works for us.

Jan McNeill, Fulltimer
2001 Intrigue 11320

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Yahoo Message Number: 19359
Thanks, David, for the prompt reply and helpful information. I will check out the Sewer-Solution and Flo-jet.

Gary Collins

'05 Inspire 51491

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Yahoo Message Number: 19360
Grant, thanks, I will check that out.

Gary Collins

'05 Inspire 51491

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Yahoo Message Number: 19361
Thanks Dick (and Geri). Appreciate the link you included in your message.

Gary Collins

'05 Inspire 51491

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Yahoo Message Number: 19362
Hi Jan,

Thanks for the reply. Your perspective on the Sewer Solution gives me some hesitation. We recently traveled through eight states over a period of six months, stopping at several RV Parks along the way. The old fashioned method of disposal seemed to be the preferred method for every RVer we met, except one in Eugene, Oregon. Sewer Solution apparently hasn't gained wide acceptance, but perhaps it's a new system.

Most RVers would probably go for anything that would make the unpleasant task of sewage disposal easier, but I'm not sure whether Sewer Solution is the answer. I'll have to investigate it a little further.

Gary Collins

'05 Inspire 51491

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Yahoo Message Number: 19368
From: "kaena65_80" garynsandy@...>
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Thanks for the reply. Your perspective on the Sewer Solution gives me > some hesitation. (snip)
The Sewer Solution, because it has a connection between sewage and fresh water supply (albeit an anti-flowback device), is apparently illegal in Virginia, IAW a notice I saw posted in a Virginia campground office. It also is not the ideal disposal method for those who dry camp 'cause it depends on the use of a water supply to dispose of holding tank contents.
The SS is not actually a "pump." It depends on the flow of water to "suck" out the holding tanks, and if fresh water is used for the purpose (typical), some may consider it a terrible waste of fresh water. Some have apparently used filtered grey water for the purpose, but I don't know how that has worked out.

Using a 12V macerator, which is most commonly used on boats, is a good alternative. We used one on a previous 5W trailer and Class C. Think of a macerator as a combination pump and garbage disposal. It connects (through various methods) to an RV's holding tank outlet and chops up solid waste and toilet tissue and pumps the resulting "slurry" through a garden hose to wherever you want to pump it, whether campground sewer or dump statio, or, after arriving home, into a sewer system cleanout, through a window into a toilet, etc.

To read more than you ever wanted to know about macerators, clickon http://www.phrannie.org/phredex.html , then to section 3 ... the article on "Macerators and Other Sewer Stuff."
After you're done with that, go back and read everything else that's in the website. The info that phred Tinseth has accumulated over the years is an invaluable guide to everyone who RVs.

Dick (& Geri) Campagna
'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97

(still not sold)

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Yahoo Message Number: 19438
I have the Sewer Solution, and used it exactly once. That first (and last) try, it clogged up and just sat there full of crud. I had to entice the valve closed, and then take off the unit, with the corresponding dump of really nasty stuff on the ground (fortunately I was at my Dad's place, and he provided me a large tub to put under the pipe). Perhaps my unit is defective, but I'd never again trust one of these. I might try a motorized macerator pump though, since the concept is great.

John 2004 Inspire

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Yahoo Message Number: 19445
I used the Sewer Solution with my SOB coach and liked it fine. I could not use it with this coach because the connection would not fit.

Ree

2003 Allure # 30852 will be for sale in 3-4 weeks

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Yahoo Message Number: 19446
At the 05 Homecoming rally there was a vendor with a fixed "sewer solution" or something like that on his coach. He had a problem that the honeywagon could not dump him, and he could not pump out to them.
I have had a Macerator pump type system for several years, works great and I keep it in a bay with the extra sewer hose. I don't need it very often, but it is great to have it for the awkward situations that come up one in a while.

Chris Bradley

1999 Intrigue 10807

1993 Affinity 4952 (for sale)

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Yahoo Message Number: 19447
Thanks, John, for your insight from personal experience. Comments made here have convinced me to stay away from the Sewer-Solution, which I was at first enthused about. The job is nasty enough, as it is, without have problems such as you describe. Should you opt for a motorized macerator pump at some point, do you have a particular brand in mind?

One problem we've found with our old system is that the tank outlet hole and the hole at the bottom of the bay where the hose comes through and connects are not perfectly aligned, making it hard to get a tight connection. The 3" sewer hose is difficult to put on straight, in other words. We have had the undesireable problem with leakage at the outlet. A simpler solution which would allow us to get rid of the 3" hose would be desireable, but that solution may not have been invented yet.

Thanks again.

Gary Collins

'05 Inspire 51491

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Yahoo Message Number: 19540
I have used the sewer solution for over a year now and I love it... if one can love a sewer hose... :-)

I like that I don't have to walk the nasty accordian hose and it doesn't get all gunky in the walls as any accordian hose does with residue. It takes longer to dump because it goes through slower. I also use my flusher on the tank when dumping as usual. The only problem I had was when a vistor disposed of something they shouldn't have in the toilet and it did block the narrow opening of the hose.
That was nasty because I had to use a bucket to catch the overflow when I had to disconnect it and lots of bleach to clean up... ick. But that is the only time I had a problem. I keep a regular hose for emergency use. I do not dump at dump stations and it could not be used that way since you do need a source of water to make the jet of water that dissolves and flushes the waste down the hose. It is much neater, cleaner and more compact. It is also incredibly easy to connect extensions when needed. You do not need all the various sewer connections as the two size rubber seal fits everything I encounter everywhere very snugly.

That being said. I have a friend that has an SOB and for whatever reason he did not find that he liked the way it worked and is not going to use it. He didn't think it was emptying his tank well enough and there might be residue. When you use the old fashioned hose, such a large volume goes through that it is possible the force of it makes it clean out better... I am not sure why he had this issue as I have never noticed this as a problem with my coach at all.

I recommend it along with the several other RVer's I saw using it recommended it to me. I wouldn't go back to the old hoses anymore NO way.

Rosemary 2000 Magna 5798

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Yahoo Message Number: 19573
I agree with MagnaMama on the Sewer Solution.
The 4" slinky is the weak link in a messy chore with pin holes, leaky joints, clamps, attachments, hang-ups on the inside, continual drooling, etc.

After 20 years of using the 4" slinky, I was dubious of the small discharge hose. However, after watching another RVer use the Sewer Solution we bought it at the 2004 PreRally in Eugene. So have used it for the past 1 1/2 years while fulltime touring around the USA.
We were given a 10' extra length as a free bonus by the vendor. The SS was the only item he dealt It's worked as advertised for us.
Fortunately, we've not had any clogging or blocked hose, etc, nor any leaks at the joints. And we don't use any clamps on the SS.
You need approx 35-40psi water pressure and turn on the water jet valve BEFORE opening the black tank valve.
By rotating the water jet valve 45 degrees to DRAIN (horiz. jet flow) , then FLUSH (vertical jet flow) the contents are liquefied and pushed along.

Last, the Gray and Black valves are closed while water is run thru the SS hoselines to clean them. This leaves no "hangers" on the hose nor ugly drooling since the inside is a smooth surface. I also use 2 anti-siphon valves; one at each end of the water supply hose to avoid suck-back. That hose is used only for the black and gray tank cleaning.

Another advantage is that the SS hose is partially transparent so you can observe your progress.

We also use only Biodegradable tissue and have settled on "Happy Camper" tank (powder) as a digester of paper and solids.
Approx.once a month we also use a wand to clean the black tank.

IMHO the days of the 4" slinky are numbered as more people try the SS, the Macerator, FloJet, etc. ....all use smaller approx 1" smooth bore hoses.

After 1 1/2 years of use I have not backslid to the slinky one time.

The SS is available at Camping World for $100.00....
HugeDomains.com - SewerSolution.com is for sale (Sewer Solution) .

BTW we have no commercial connection to these RV products.
Don; 2000 Allure, 30580

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Yahoo Message Number: 19993
Quote from: kaena65_80

> Thanks, John, for your insight from personal experience. Should you opt for a motorized macerator pump at some point, do you have a particular > brand in mind?
Gary, no, but probably one which attaches directly to the tank outlet with no adapter or plumbing needed. I've seen and heard about one which is a one piece unit, with a wired remote control for around $250; this would probably be at the top of my list.

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One problem we've found with our old system is that the tank outlet hole and the hole at the bottom of the bay where the hose comes through and connects are not perfectly aligned, making it hard to get a tight connection.
Me too! Mine is so far out of line it is impossible to hook up the hose. I finally got it to dump by using a 90 elbow sideways, then feeding the hose back on itself and down through the hole. I talked with tech support at CC and they wanted a picture, but I couldn't find my camera at that time. Now that I found it and have more time, I'll be getting back to this problem.

Thanks again.

Gary Collins

'05 Inspire 51491[/quote]
John, '04 Inspire 51078