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Satellite setup.

Yahoo Message Number: 19486
Hi All,

I am about to have a dome type TV satellite installed on our 1999 Intrigue and wondered if anyone knows if there is a place on the roof already set up for this at the factory, like a structurally reinforced area or wiring pre installed?

Thanks for any help,

Chris Bradley

1999 Intrigue 10807

1993 Affinity 4952 (for sale)

Re: Satellite setup.

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Yahoo Message Number: 19493
Chris: I have "been there and done that" with some experience on my 1999 Intrigue. To make it short, the easiest way is to remove the Television set. There is an access hole right over the TV where the radio and CB antennas come in. There is also access to power, both 110 and 12v in the bulkhead behind the TV.
I wouldn't worry about where to mount the antenna. The roof has plenty of support and sufficient layers of materials that will make it secure.
Just be sure to use the proper roof calking when you seal around the coax hole and mounting screws. Most RV shops have the right stuff that always remains soft enough to make a good seal.

Larry
Intrigue
10762

Re: Satellite setup.

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Yahoo Message Number: 19515
Thanks Larry, that is a big help. I was thinking of taking out the TV sometime soon to see how hard it would be for me to replace it with the LCD type of the same size after cutting back the cabinet a few inches, this will be good practice.
With the caulking I am in good shape, I was a caulking contractor for 23 years..... so it is a point of pride that my rigs get sealed good!

Chris Bradley

1999 Intrigue 10807

1993 Affinity 4952 (for sale)

Quote from: LARRY A HANSON

> Chris: I have "been there and done that" with some experience on my
1999 Intrigue. To make it short, the easiest way is to remove the Television set. There is an access hole right over the TV where the radio and CB antennas come in. There is also access to power, both 110 and 12v in the bulkhead behind the TV.

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>

I wouldn't worry about where to mount the antenna. The roof has
plenty of support and sufficient layers of materials that will make it secure.

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>

Just be sure to use the proper roof calking when you seal around the
coax hole and mounting screws. Most RV shops have the right stuff that always remains soft enough to make a good seal.

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Larry
Intrigue
10762

Re: Satellite setup.

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Yahoo Message Number: 19595
I have a dome on my Inspire and don't recommend it. If there is cloud cover and/or rain you will lose reception, even with light rain. I've tried rain-ex on the dome (suggested by Kingdome techs) and it helped but only a little it. I don't recommend using the dome. Also, the dome is more expensive than an open dish.

Carol

'04 Inspire 51046

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Yahoo Message Number: 19604
My opinion - and I've had them all.
DO NOT get a dome. Rain fade is a major disadvantage especially when, in our case, the most common "use" of satellite TV is when it's raining.
Stick with raised dish and strongly consider Motosat and their new Nomad 2 system. Push one button and you have satellite TV. Works every time - the way is should be.

Tom

05 Magna #6479

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Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Satellite setup. I would not even consider a dome satellite dish again. They don't work in rain or heavy mist even after a good application of the $50 can of "dome treatment in a can" sold by several manufacturers. Motosat sells both a Nomad 2 conventional raise/lower dish and a more expensive dome dish. Jim Pendleton, CEO of Motosat has stated on several forums that he only manufactures the dome dish to compete with other brands, but has absolutely no idea why anyone would want one, since none of them work in rain.

Dick B

04 Intrigue 11830

At 7:24 AM -0800 11/15/05, Tom wrote:

Re: Satellite setup.

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I HAVE A TRACK STAR OUT OF ORLANDO, FL, I LOVE IT WORKS WELL, EVEN IN CANADA, IT IS AN OLD ONE, THE NEW ONES HAVE A SMALLER DISK

Charlie & Lorraine Zecman
2002 Magna # 6162
Florida

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Yahoo Message Number: 19610
You may have something else wrong with the unit or cable quality itself. I am sitting in New York right now, rainy, heavy cloud cover and windy. Perfect signal.

Joe

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Yahoo Message Number: 19611
Carol,

We have experienced the same "bad" conditions as Joe and still get a good signal. I bet that the wiring is bad or a connector is faulty.
Good Luck,

Russ and Jean
05 Intrigue LE
11883

Quote from: Joseph Stevener\[br\
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You may have something else wrong with the unit or cable quality
itself. I am sitting in New York right now, rainy, heavy cloud cover and windy. Perfect signal.

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Joe

rol wrote:

I have a dome on my Inspire and don't recommend it. If there is

cloud

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cover and/or rain you will lose reception, even with light rain.

I've

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tried rain-ex on the dome (suggested by Kingdome techs) and it

helped

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but only a little it. I don't recommend using the dome. Also, the > dome is more expensive than an open dish.

Carol

'04 Inspire 51046

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The only time we have had issue with the dome dish is when the rain was such a down pour that it was solid water coming out of the sky, otherwise we have had no issue with rain, moisture from fog, morning dew, or traveling in motion while raining.
It seems to me there is something else wrong if the dome dish is not working correctly.
Kary

05 Inspire 36'
#51499

Quote from: dosgoldens
Carol,

We have experienced the same "bad" conditions as Joe and still get

a

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good signal. I bet that the wiring is bad or a connector is faulty.
Good Luck,

Russ and Jean
05 Intrigue LE
11883

[quote author=Joseph Stevener

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> You may have something else wrong with the unit or cable quality > itself. I am sitting in New York right now, rainy, heavy cloud

cover

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and windy. Perfect signal.
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> Joe
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> rol wrote:

> I have a dome on my Inspire and don't recommend it. If there

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cloud

> cover and/or rain you will lose reception, even with light rain.
I've

> tried rain-ex on the dome (suggested by Kingdome techs) and it > helped

> but only a little it. I don't recommend using the dome. Also,

the

Re: Satellite setup.

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Thanks for the input, but I don't understand. How can it be a loose connection or bad cable when I have perfect reception except when it rains? Right now, partly cloudy and a good signal. I called Kingdome and they said this often happens; they are the ones who recommended RainEx.

Carol

Quote from: Joseph Stevener\[br\
]
You may have something else wrong with the unit or cable quality
itself. I am sitting in New York right now, rainy, heavy cloud
cover and windy. Perfect signal.

Quote
Joe

rol wrote:

I have a dome on my Inspire and don't recommend it. If there is

cloud

Quote
cover and/or rain you will lose reception, even with light rain.

I've

Quote
tried rain-ex on the dome (suggested by Kingdome techs) and it

helped

Quote
but only a little it. I don't recommend using the dome. Also,

the

Quote
dome is more expensive than an open dish.

Carol

'04 Inspire 51046

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Yahoo Message Number: 19637
Carol ...

Welcome to the world of Ku band satellite signals, and tiny dishes.

We have had a BUD dish for about 20 years now (the big ugly 10 foot dish), and switched awhile back to the little dish (DirectTV).
The picture is way worse, and it goes out in a hard rain. This the a standard outside dish, not a motorhome unit.
Two reasons for this ... the dish is way smaller, gathering way less signal than the big dishes. The wavelength of a Ku band signal is a fair amount higher than our old "C" band dish. Smaller wavelengths are most likely to be diffused by dish abnormalities, like rain drops.
The gains of the small dishes are way less, meaning a small amount of signal loss is significant.

Even a standard, exposed dish will crap out in a hard rain. Rain drops on the reflector (the dish) scatter the signal so it cannot be focused on the opening of the LNB (the little microphone thingie). Just a small amount of sigal loss is enough to mess up your sigal.
The signal is digital, and a loss of signal gives you those annoying square patterns, and broken up audio.
Nature of the beast I am afraid. No Ku band, small dish will work in adverse conditions. The reflectors in dome units is quite a bit smaller that your standard house mount dish so that makes matters even worse.

You can try an exposed dish, but this will only make things marginally better. The bigger portable dishes, like Motosat uses for data, are probably better, but expensive.

John and Terry
2005 Affinity

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