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Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Yahoo Message Number: 26265
I have a Allure 470 #31432. Recently I was on the road, and my Hydor Hot stopped working. I found it to be low on coolant, "light indication on board". I added Peak RV coolant and the unit took off.
However, over the course of the next 20 days I used almost six gallons.

On return I found that I had used the wrong coolant, needed boiler coolant. My questions is has anyone else had this issue? Upon looking for drain, and reading manuals, it is not clear to me where it is, any help here? I am told it is plastic, and is about the only leak source. t I see no leaking when unit is running, and no coolant on the floor. I am reluctant to take it back to dealer, as I have never heard of this situation and would like to get some additional input. Thanks

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26271
I am sorry, but I cannot comment on the leak as my unit has been consuming very little (maybe almost none), but never-the-less I topped off the plastic reservoir when it was hot to the upper hot fill line with about a pint mixed 50-50 with water. I have had the coach three months now.

My point of this post is to re-enforce the need for BOILER Antifreeze. Fortunately I was able to pick up a gallon when I had my alternator serviced in Littleton CO. They said that not many places seem to carry it. While the bottle says to add it straight, the repair shop AND HydroHot manual says to mix 50-50 with water.
It is "Camco Boiler -100 degree Antifreeze - Antifreeze for hydronic heating and cooling systems".

Since there is apparently not much availability, I would suggest getting a gallon to have on hand -- when you get a chance.

Herb

2007 Allure # 31466

Quote from: reeljr65

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26272
There is an end panel that comes off. Unscrew the screws holding it on. On our coach this panel is towards the front of the unit. Inside there should be some type of drain.
We had a leak in our HH on our previous brand of MH. There was a plastic fitting that a hose attached to that went into the unit. This plastic piece cracked and we developed a slow leak, but it took months to finally see antifreeze on the ground. It was all being absorbed into the insulation around the unit. It finally got saturated enough to start dripping on the ground. We had the coach to Vehicle Systems and they replaced this plastic fitting with a brass one. They made the comment that this was a weak point and all the new units were coming out with the brass fitting.
So maybe this might not be the issue with yours since by now the units should have this upgrade.
Good luck.

Sue

05, 42' CC Allure quad slide #31254

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26276
Herb, I had no idea you were supposed to mix the Camco boiler fluid with water. Mine was down about a gallon due to a leak at a hose clamp and after I tightened the clamp I filled it with one gallon non diluted. I'm sure there is no harm doing it this way, but I've never heard of diluting the premix. I guess I need to read the HydroHot Manual. My coach is 15 months old and I have not had to add any more boiler fluid, but do have a gallon extra if I need it. Did you dilute it with distilled water?

R. D. Vanderslice
06 Allure 470 - 31294

Herb & Melitta Strandberg wrote:

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26284
Thanks, I found a leak today, and I am off to buy the "boiler antifreeze", the Camco name is "Boiler Antifreeze-100" which in itself is a little confusing. HOWEVER, I FOUND ONE MENTION OF MIXING, AND NO OTHER. I looked in manual and read installation of 2/3 water 1/3 antifreeze.. Did you call Vehicle Systems? Spivey Allure 470 31432. Manual does not mention distilled water. I will post the answer from Vehicle Systems AM 10-23

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26285
Herb thanks I posted my answer on a reply, hope you get it. I just want to make sure, I found 2/3 1/3 mixture. (2/3 water) I am calling Vehicle Systems in the AM and will post answer.

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26286
James, I am not sure what boiler antifreeze is but you should be using non toxic antifreeze. The older aquahot systems use regular antifreeze say from NAPA mixed 50/50.
John F.

Quote from: James Spivey
>

Thanks, I found a leak today, and I am off to buy the "boiler

antifreeze",

Quote
the Camco name is "Boiler Antifreeze-100" which in itself is a

little

Quote
confusing. HOWEVER, I FOUND ONE MENTION OF MIXING, AND NO OTHER.

I looked

Quote
in manual and read installation of 2/3 water 1/3 antifreeze.. Did

you call

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Vehicle Systems? Spivey Allure 470 31432. Manual does not

mention

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distilled water. I will post the answer from Vehicle Systems AM

10-23

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>

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> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of R. D.

Vanderslice

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Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:16 PM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot

or Aqua

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>

Herb, I had no idea you were supposed to mix the Camco boiler

fluid with

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water. Mine was down about a gallon due to a leak at a hose clamp

and after

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I tightened the clamp I filled it with one gallon non diluted.

I'm sure

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there is no harm doing it this way, but I've never heard of

diluting the

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premix. I guess I need to read the HydroHot Manual. My coach is

15 months

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old and I have not had to add any more boiler fluid, but do have a

gallon

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extra if I need it. Did you dilute it with distilled water? >

R. D. Vanderslice

06 Allure 470 - 31294

Herb & Melitta Strandberg wrote: >

I am sorry, but I cannot comment on the leak as my unit has been > consuming very little (maybe almost none), but never-the-less I > topped off the plastic reservoir when it was hot to the upper hot > fill line with about a pint mixed 50-50 with water. I have had the > coach three months now.

My point of this post is to re-enforce the need for BOILER > Antifreeze. Fortunately I was able to pick up a gallon when I had > my alternator serviced in Littleton CO. They said that not many > places seem to carry it. While the bottle says to add it straight, > the repair shop AND HydroHot manual says to mix 50-50 with water.
It is "Camco Boiler -100 degree Antifreeze - Antifreeze for

hydronic

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heating and cooling systems".

Since there is apparently not much availability, I would suggest > getting a gallon to have on hand -- when you get a chance.

Herb

2007 Allure # 31466

--- In Country-Coach-

40yahoogroups.com>

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26287
Vehicle Systems has a Service Bulletin on this subject, I downloaded it from web site. There are only three sources for "Boiler" antifreeze. AMSOIL, SAFE-T-THERM, BOILER ANTIFREEZE-100. MADE by Camco. The later is the only one I can find. I understand GRAS and other warnings, what this stuff has that "PEAK RV" does not have I am not clear on. But in a call two weeks ago Vehicle Systems told me to get that out or they would void the warranty. What I am still not clear on is ratio of mixture. Will post answer AM 10-23

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26288
James,

I was going to call the company a month ago, but I found in my manual the same instructions the dealer told me - 50-50 mix. I specifically asked the dealer about distilled water, and he said to just use tap water. We must have different manuals.

Herb

2007 Allure #31466

Quote from: James Spivey

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26291
Didn't call Vehicle Systems. Please post what they say and if there is a need to use distilled water. Thanks,

R. D. Vanderslice

06 Allure 470 - 31294.

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26292
For reference, I believe that GRAS stands for "Generally regarded as Safe." If anti freeze happens to mix with water system in the coach, it's not suppose to be deadly, plus some other attributes, I'm sure.

Lots of heating systems in the northland use water and steam heat and thus use the boiler anti freeze..(according to "This old House") Ha
Last time I got any, CCI had the best price at around $19.00 a gallon at the rallies. Some RV dealers are charging $49.00 a gallon.
My 2005 Allure book says nothing about mixing at any ratio. Actually, don't know how they could without knowing the concentrate of what you buy.???

When the Vehicle systems guy did an update on my unit he used it straight from the bottle to top off. But would be real interested in what Vehicle Systems are now saying....

Best Regards

Ray and Rue
05 Allure 31176

Quote from: James Spivey
>

Vehicle Systems has a Service Bulletin on this subject, I
downloaded it from

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web site. There are only three sources for "Boiler" antifreeze.

AMSOIL,

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SAFE-T-THERM, BOILER ANTIFREEZE-100. MADE by Camco. The later is

the only

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one I can find. I understand GRAS and other warnings, what this

stuff has

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that "PEAK RV" does not have I am not clear on. But in a call two

weeks ago

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Vehicle Systems told me to get that out or they would void the

warranty.

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What I am still not clear on is ratio of mixture. Will post answer

AM 10-23

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>

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> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John

Fraser

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Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:00 PM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or

Aqua

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>

James, I am not sure what boiler antifreeze is but you should be > using non toxic antifreeze. The older aquahot systems use regular > antifreeze say from NAPA mixed 50/50.
John F.

[quote author=James Spivey"

>

> Thanks, I found a leak today, and I am off to buy the "boiler > antifreeze",

> the Camco name is "Boiler Antifreeze-100" which in itself is a > little

> confusing. HOWEVER, I FOUND ONE MENTION OF MIXING, AND NO OTHER.
I looked

> in manual and read installation of 2/3 water 1/3 antifreeze.. Did > you call

> Vehicle Systems? Spivey Allure 470 31432. Manual does not > mention

> distilled water. I will post the answer from Vehicle Systems AM > 10-23
>
>
>
>
>

> _____
>

> From: Country-Coach-

40yahoogroups.com>

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>Owners@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Country-Coach-
40yahoogroups.com>

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>Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of R. D.
Vanderslice

> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:16 PM > > To: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro

Hot

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or Aqua
>
>
>

> Herb, I had no idea you were supposed to mix the Camco boiler > fluid with

> water. Mine was down about a gallon due to a leak at a hose clamp > and after

> I tightened the clamp I filled it with one gallon non diluted.
I'm sure

> there is no harm doing it this way, but I've never heard of > diluting the

> premix. I guess I need to read the HydroHot Manual. My coach is > 15 months

> old and I have not had to add any more boiler fluid, but do have

a

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gallon

> extra if I need it. Did you dilute it with distilled water? > >

> R. D. Vanderslice
>

> 06 Allure 470 - 31294
>
>
>
>

> Herb & Melitta Strandberg wrote: > >

> I am sorry, but I cannot comment on the leak as my unit has been > > consuming very little (maybe almost none), but never-the-less I > > topped off the plastic reservoir when it was hot to the upper hot > > fill line with about a pint mixed 50-50 with water. I have had

the

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coach three months now.
>

> My point of this post is to re-enforce the need for BOILER > > Antifreeze. Fortunately I was able to pick up a gallon when I had > > my alternator serviced in Littleton CO. They said that not many > > places seem to carry it. While the bottle says to add it

straight,

Quote
the repair shop AND HydroHot manual says to mix 50-50 with water.
> It is "Camco Boiler -100 degree Antifreeze - Antifreeze for > hydronic

> heating and cooling systems".
>

> Since there is apparently not much availability, I would suggest > > getting a gallon to have on hand -- when you get a chance.
>

> Herb

> 2007 Allure # 31466
>

> --- In Country-Coach- > 40yahoogroups.com> > > Owners@yahoogroups.
com, "reeljr65"

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26293
We have slowly been losing the coolant in our Hydro hot over the summer. The leak got worse in September and began going through large quantities of boiler antifreeze. We began communicating with the techs at Vehicle Systems and learned the following:

1) The Hydro Hot boilers had plastic drain valves with a plastic fitting that screwed into the boiler. This has been a problem and VS has now eliminated the plastic fitting into the boiler in favor of a standard cast iron nipple. They recommend changing those units that have the plastic fitting. We changed ours rather than driving 1300 miles to Colorado, but it was a semi-bear for tool impaired mechanics.

2) The boiler must be filled with the GRAS boiler antifreeze referred to in this post. While tap water may be used for a short period, the solution should be made with distilled water for long term use.

3) The mixture depends on what your outside temperatures may be, but for proper protection and heat transfer the VS folks recommend a mixture of 50/50.

4) The Camco Boiler 100 antifreeze is available from several sources
including Vehicle Systems in Fort Lupton, CO and online directly from the manufacturer (CAMCO). The manufacturer also states that many True Value hardward stores carry this product, but I called several and all of they have is the standard Camco automotive antifreeze and not the Boiler stuff. We had a couple of gallons shipped to Yuma, can't remember the price.

Hope this helps.

Dick B

04 Intrigue
#11830

Quote from: James Spivey
>

Thanks, I found a leak today, and I am off to buy the "boiler

antifreeze",

Quote
the Camco name is "Boiler Antifreeze-100" which in itself is a little > confusing. HOWEVER, I FOUND ONE MENTION OF MIXING, AND NO OTHER. I

looked

Quote
in manual and read installation of 2/3 water 1/3 antifreeze.. Did

you call

Quote
Vehicle Systems? Spivey Allure 470 31432. Manual does not mention > distilled water. I will post the answer from Vehicle Systems AM 10-23 >

_____
> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of R. D.

Vanderslice

Quote
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:16 PM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot

or Aqua

Quote
>

> Herb, I had no idea you were supposed to mix the Camco boiler fluid with > water. Mine was down about a gallon due to a leak at a hose clamp

and after

Quote
I tightened the clamp I filled it with one gallon non diluted. I'm sure > there is no harm doing it this way, but I've never heard of diluting the > premix. I guess I need to read the HydroHot Manual. My coach is 15

months

Quote
old and I have not had to add any more boiler fluid, but do have a

gallon

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26294
Thanks I have a call in but you have answered my questions. Did Vehicle System send you the parts, or did you just get them at the hardware store? I can't find the drain so I know it must be a bear; can you give me an idea where it is? Thanks

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26295
When I picked up my coach at CC it was about a half gallon low on boiler fluid. They also topped it off with straight Camco boiler fluid and gave me the remaining half gallon IN case I needed it in the future. They didn't dilute it or mention diluting it 50/50 or any other formula.

R. D. Vanderslice
06 Allure 470 - 31294

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #14 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26299
Unplug the wiring harness to the Hydro Hot after turning off both the electric and the gas switches inside the coach.

Pull the cover off the HH (4 screws) and move the 14 miles of extra wiring out of your way. You will see a plastic drain value going into the bottom of the Hydro Hot. You will also need to unplug a couple of additional wires just to get them out of your way.
Go to the hardware store and pick up a 2.5" nipple and a brass ball valve with a lever, some teflon tape, teflon paste (they use both).
The hard part is getting big hands in there to remove the old plastic fitting. The existing plastic valve has a quick release fitting with the nipple that you push and turn till it releases. Then you need to back out the old nipple from the boiler. The perfect tool for this was a large allen wrench (I think it was 3/4 inch)inserted in the quick release female coupling. Be sure and position new ball value so that the lever will turn when you want to drain the tank. All of your missing coolant is dripping through the bottom of the unit onto the HH exhaust pipe, but you cannot see the leak from inside. I really have no mechanic skills but somehow got through it. Adios.

Quote from: James Spivey
> > Thanks I have a call in but you have answered my questions. Did Vehicle > System send you the parts, or did you just get them at the hardware

store?

Quote
I can't find the drain so I know it must be a bear; can you give me

an idea

Quote
where it is? Thanks

_____
> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
countrycoachbrad

Quote
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:11 AM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua >

We have slowly been losing the coolant in our Hydro hot over the > summer. The leak got worse in September and began going through large > quantities of boiler antifreeze. We began communicating with the techs > at Vehicle Systems and learned the following: >

1) The Hydro Hot boilers had plastic drain valves with a plastic > fitting that screwed into the boiler. This has been a problem and VS > has now eliminated the plastic fitting into the boiler in favor of a > standard cast iron nipple. They recommend changing those units that > have the plastic fitting. We changed ours rather than driving 1300 > miles to Colorado, but it was a semi-bear for tool impaired mechanics.
> 2) The boiler must be filled with the GRAS boiler antifreeze referred > to in this post. While tap water may be used for a short period, the > solution should be made with distilled water for long term use.
> 3) The mixture depends on what your outside temperatures may be, but > for proper protection and heat transfer the VS folks recommend a > mixture of 50/50.
> 4) The Camco Boiler 100 antifreeze is available from several sources > including Vehicle Systems in Fort Lupton, CO and online directly from > the manufacturer (CAMCO). The manufacturer also states that many True > Value hardward stores carry this product, but I called several and all > of they have is the standard Camco automotive antifreeze and not the > Boiler stuff. We had a couple of gallons shipped to Yuma, can't > remember the price.

Hope this helps.

Dick B

04 Intrigue
#11830

[quote author=James Spivey"

>

> Thanks, I found a leak today, and I am off to buy the "boiler > antifreeze",

> the Camco name is "Boiler Antifreeze-100" which in itself is a little > > confusing. HOWEVER, I FOUND ONE MENTION OF MIXING, AND NO OTHER. I > looked

> in manual and read installation of 2/3 water 1/3 antifreeze.. Did > you call

> Vehicle Systems? Spivey Allure 470 31432. Manual does not mention > > distilled water. I will post the answer from Vehicle Systems AM 10-23 > >
>
>
>
>

> _____
>

> From: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of R. D.
Vanderslice

> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:16 PM > > To: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot > or Aqua
>
>
>

> Herb, I had no idea you were supposed to mix the Camco boiler

fluid with

Quote
water. Mine was down about a gallon due to a leak at a hose clamp > and after

> I tightened the clamp I filled it with one gallon non diluted. I'm

sure

Quote
there is no harm doing it this way, but I've never heard of

diluting the

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #15 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26303
Thanks Sue, I am on to a plastic drain valve, now just a matter of parts and this case will be closed. Thanks for the post.

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #16 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26304
Thanks a bunch, I am on it. I know what you are talking about, and I think I will try a pipe tap, and then the Allen. I just do not have an Allen that big. I want to make sure I express my appreciation for your time and detailed account. I just could not see the valve, but there were some wires, I am on it now, and again thanks very much. I am buying the beers!!!!

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #17 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26306
You are welcome. The tech guy at VS said some needle nose vise grips would work almost as well as the allen wrench. It will take almost 5 gallons of coolant/water mix to fill the boiler and the overflow bottle. Good luck. Any chance of some Willamette Valey Pinot Noir?

Quote from: James Spivey
> > Thanks a bunch, I am on it. I know what you are talking about, and

I think

Quote
I will try a pipe tap, and then the Allen. I just do not have an

Allen that

Quote
big. I want to make sure I express my appreciation for your time and > detailed account. I just could not see the valve, but there were some > wires, I am on it now, and again thanks very much. I am buying the > beers!!!!

_____
> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
countrycoachbrad

Quote
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 11:44 AM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua >

> Unplug the wiring harness to the Hydro Hot after turning off both the > electric and the gas switches inside the coach.
> Pull the cover off the HH (4 screws) and move the 14 miles of extra > wiring out of your way. You will see a plastic drain value going into > the bottom of the Hydro Hot. You will also need to unplug a couple of > additional wires just to get them out of your way.
Go to the hardware store and pick up a 2.5" nipple and a brass ball > valve with a lever, some teflon tape, teflon paste (they use both).
The hard part is getting big hands in there to remove the old plastic > fitting. The existing plastic valve has a quick release fitting with > the nipple that you push and turn till it releases. Then you need to > back out the old nipple from the boiler. The perfect tool for this was > a large allen wrench (I think it was 3/4 inch)inserted in the quick > release female coupling. Be sure and position new ball value so that > the lever will turn when you want to drain the tank. All of your > missing coolant is dripping through the bottom of the unit onto the HH > exhaust pipe, but you cannot see the leak from inside. I really have > no mechanic skills but somehow got through it. Adios.

[quote author=James Spivey"

>

> Thanks I have a call in but you have answered my questions. Did

Vehicle

Quote
System send you the parts, or did you just get them at the hardware > store?

> I can't find the drain so I know it must be a bear; can you give me > an idea

> where it is? Thanks
>
>
>
>
>

> _____
>

> From: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > countrycoachbrad

> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:11 AM > > To: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua > >
>
>

> We have slowly been losing the coolant in our Hydro hot over the > > summer. The leak got worse in September and began going through large > > quantities of boiler antifreeze. We began communicating with the techs > > at Vehicle Systems and learned the following: > >

> 1) The Hydro Hot boilers had plastic drain valves with a plastic > > fitting that screwed into the boiler. This has been a problem and VS > > has now eliminated the plastic fitting into the boiler in favor of a > > standard cast iron nipple. They recommend changing those units that > > have the plastic fitting. We changed ours rather than driving 1300 > > miles to Colorado, but it was a semi-bear for tool impaired mechanics.
>

> 2) The boiler must be filled with the GRAS boiler antifreeze referred > > to in this post. While tap water may be used for a short period, the > > solution should be made with distilled water for long term use.
>

> 3) The mixture depends on what your outside temperatures may be, but > > for proper protection and heat transfer the VS folks recommend a > > mixture of 50/50.
>

> 4) The Camco Boiler 100 antifreeze is available from several sources > > including Vehicle Systems in Fort Lupton, CO and online directly from > > the manufacturer (CAMCO). The manufacturer also states that many True > > Value hardward stores carry this product, but I called several and all > > of they have is the standard Camco automotive antifreeze and not the > > Boiler stuff. We had a couple of gallons shipped to Yuma, can't > > remember the price.
>

> Hope this helps.
>

> Dick B

> 04 Intrigue
> #11830
>

> --- In Country-Coach-

> Owners@yahoogroups. com, "James

Spivey"

Quote
wrote:
> >

> > Thanks, I found a leak today, and I am off to buy the "boiler > > antifreeze",

> > the Camco name is "Boiler Antifreeze-100" which in itself is a

little

Quote
> confusing. HOWEVER, I FOUND ONE MENTION OF MIXING, AND NO OTHER. I > > looked

> > in manual and read installation of 2/3 water 1/3 antifreeze.. Did > > you call

> > Vehicle Systems? Spivey Allure 470 31432. Manual does not mention > > > distilled water. I will post the answer from Vehicle Systems AM

10-23

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>
> >
> >
> >
> >

> > _____
> >

> > From: Country-Coach-
> Owners@yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:Country-Coach-
Quote
Owners@yahoogroups. com] On

Behalf Of R.

Quote
D.
> Vanderslice

> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:16 PM > > > To: Country-Coach-
> Owners@yahoogroups. com

> > Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot > > or Aqua
> >
> >
> >

> > Herb, I had no idea you were supposed to mix the Camco boiler > fluid with

> > water. Mine was down about a gallon due to a leak at a hose clamp > > and after

> > I tightened the clamp I filled it with one gallon non diluted. I'm > sure

> > there is no harm doing it this way, but I've never heard of > diluting the

> > premix. I guess I need to read the HydroHot Manual. My coach is 15 > > months

> > old and I have not had to add any more boiler fluid, but do have a > > gallon

> > extra if I need it. Did you dilute it with distilled water? > > >

> > R. D. Vanderslice
> >

> > 06 Allure 470 - 31294
> >
> >
> >
> >

> > Herb & Melitta Strandberg wrote: > > >

> > I am sorry, but I cannot comment on the leak as my unit has been > > > consuming very little (maybe almost none), but never-the-less I > > > topped off the plastic reservoir when it was hot to the upper hot > > > fill line with about a pint mixed 50-50 with water. I have had the > > > coach three months now.
> >

> > My point of this post is to re-enforce the need for BOILER > > > Antifreeze. Fortunately I was able to pick up a gallon when I had > > > my alternator serviced in Littleton CO. They said that not many > > > places seem to carry it. While the bottle says to add it straight, > > > the repair shop AND HydroHot manual says to mix 50-50 with water.
> > It is "Camco Boiler -100 degree Antifreeze - Antifreeze for

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> >

> > Since there is apparently not much availability, I would suggest > > > getting a gallon to have on hand -- when you get a chance.
> >

> > Herb

> > 2007 Allure # 31466
> >

> > --- In Country-Coach-
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> Owners@yahoogroups. com,

"reeljr65"

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Reply #18 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26315
I am saving this e-mail. I drink wine, but Willamette Valley? I can't promise but if I get this done, it could happen. Again thanks! You talk a Merlot or a Cab. And we could close this deal now.

Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

Reply #19 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26316
A CC tech told me to check Graingers for antifreeze. It's called "Pipe Saver" in the catalog and seems to meet all the specs of Camco. My very old catalog lists a price of $17.

Jim 06 Intrigue

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Reply #20 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26321
Thanks a bunch, that will save some money.

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From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Joyce Posik Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:36 PM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, Hydro Hot or Aqua

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Reply #21 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26326
No Two Buck Chuck!

Quote from: James Spivey
> > I am saving this e-mail. I drink wine, but Willamette Valley? I can't > promise but if I get this done, it could happen. Again thanks! You

talk a

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Merlot or a Cab. And we could close this deal now.

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Reply #22 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26329
I found a Hydro Hot/vehicle systems service bulletin on the web that lists all of their approved antifreezes. I found the Noble Noburst boiler antifreeze for $19.50 per gallon with a google search.
I have listed the website for the pdf for the service bulletin.

http://www.alfaleisure.com/downloads/Bulletins/Antifreeze%20for%20Aqua-Hot%20and%20Hydro-Hot.pdf
Kevin

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--- James Spivey spivey64@...> wrote:

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Thanks a bunch, that will save some money.

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> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Joyce Posik

Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:36 PM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Vehicle Systems, > Hydro Hot or Aqua

A CC tech told me to check Graingers for antifreeze.
 It's called "Pipe

Saver" in the catalog and seems to meet all the > specs of Camco. My very old
catalog lists a price of $17.

Jim 06 Intrigue

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Reply #23 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26332
Hi All, FYI the boiler coolant is sold by Tru Value in Junction City for $12.99 a gallon. We usually buy two or three when we are there. Hollicks 07 Affinity 6767

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Reply #24 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26336
Dale and Candace,

What brand of boiler coolant do they sell at tru value?

Thanks
Kevin

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--- Dale and Candace Hollick cdhollick@...> wrote:

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Hi All, FYI the boiler coolant is sold by Tru Value > in

Junction City for $12.99 a gallon. We usually buy > two

or three when we are there. Hollicks 07 Affinity > 6767