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Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #25 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54890
Perhaps we could convince Steve Mitchell at Parliament Coach to buy the CC info...
Parliament does excellent work and charges very reasonable prices... We would then have a dependable place to call on for parts, parts info, sevice info, etc., and a place to take our coaches when we need service, mods, or "fixes" we don't want to tackle ourselves...

And... Steve wouldn't treat us like orphans...

Buck

k7wn, '99 Magna#5653

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Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #26 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54891
The final cost will be determined when the auctioneer's gavel falls and he says "sold" on that given lot number.

Chuck & Mary B

Red Bluff, Ca.

Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat

Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #27 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54892
A NON PROFIT SHOULD NOT OWN THE RECORDS. LET A FOR PROFIT ENTITY OWN THEM.

JOHN DREBICK 06 AFFINITY 6550

Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #28 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54893
Buck,

If Parliament will not buy the records then maybe Jason Howard will with his alleged $50,400.00 comission check? Im sure the sucker who bought the Rhapsody will need lots of "service, mods, or fixes" since his 2 year warranty turned into 2 weeks.
I think Mikee has is pegged, who ever purchases the name, molds, and designs will also obtain all the records at data (except parts books & veranda patent). It will be interesting to see what happens next!

Matt

Inspire 51661 dry TWC

Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #29 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54896

Please count me in for all the build records. I have what came with my coach but as mentioned names and phone numbers of suppliers would be very good to have.
Ben Kitay

2008 Intrigue #12247

Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #30 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54911
Hello, We too would be interested in obtaining a copy of all the build data on our coach, 99 Intrigue, #10745. We are fortunate in that I believe we have most, but not all our documentation. Having a source to obtain the rest would be greatly appreciated.

Bill Brown, Intrigue 10745

Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #31 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54914
Truth of the matter is, CCI or any other individual or group of individuals on this forum, is not likely to buy CC's "Intellectual Properties"...
I base the above statement on the fact that Bluebird's "Intellectual Properties" sold for BIG bucks, and require two LARGE buildings for storage, due to the fact that much of the "properties" are in the form of "blueprint size" paper documents... The documents are kept on metal shelving, require an indexing and location system, and require personnel to access the appropriate docs when someone needs them...
Also, Country Coach produced MANY more vehicles over the years than Bluebird Wanderlodge, so the CC "Intellectual properties" would require MUCH more space for storage...

With all of the above in mind, I make the following suggestion:
CCI, or someone here on the forum, could keep a list of those CC owners that have documentation for their coach, and are willing to share the info with those owners that need info for troubleshooting, mods, fixes, etc.

For example, my ol' '99 Magna #5653 came with:

1.) a "User's Guide/Service Manual" that contains info on automotive, electrical, plumbing, control panels, etc., much of which is in the form of electrical, plumbing, pneumatic, etc., schematic drawings that not only have parts info, but indicate where the particular part is located.

2.) a "Dynomax Chassis" manual, containing info and schematics for the chassis "engine group", "transmission group", "axels and suspension", "air system", hydraulic system, electrical system, etc.

3.) An expandable file folder containing manufacturer's info on the equipment and appliances installed in the coach.

To sum up, I, and many others, don't need CC's "intellectual properties" and the problems that purchasing and maintaining them would create...
I am willing to share my documentation with anyone that is in need of it... Anyone else out there that is willing to share?
If so, all we need is someone to keep a list of those that have documentation for a particular coach and is willing to share said documentation with those that need it.

buck

k7wn, '99 Magna #5653

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Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #32 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54919
I have the Country Coach Users Guide and Service Manual and the Gillig Chassis Manuals (Owners Manual - Service Section, Owners Manual - Parts Section) for our coach. I have them scanned into 4 separate zip files.
Each page is a jpg scan of the page. At one time I had them loaded to my web page for a few folks and can do so again if there is interest.
However, there are components that are not documented. For instance, Dean has a problem with the 'fill' circuit board and this item was evidently designed by CC. There is no available schematic for it. I don't doubt there are many other small items that can be irritating to figure out if there is a problem.

Mike Cebula
'95 Magna 5266

Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #33 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54920
Quote: " Anyone else out there that is willing to share? " That is what we are doing now - this forum is a GREAT resource for owners, and I really appreciate it. The generosity of the ex-CC techs is also specifically appreciated.
I will NOT say "We don't need no stinking documentation", but the resources here daily compile information, and with the search function on the forum we have a growing, viable documentation source.
I will do whatever I can to contribute, and support this forum so it can continue.

Jack Nichols

2003 Intrigue 11527, and EVERYTHING WORKS!!!!! (For today, anyway ;*))

Do we need the Historical records and data files?

Reply #34 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54928
I agree. At the end of the day this forum provides a service that far exceeds the value of any documents.
The collective knowledge of owners have, on several occasions, helped my to solve a problem. As long as we stay together and help each other no one needs to worry about a pile of paper work that would be 99% irrelevant.

The last CC on the road will be the only true orphan.

Bruce

2001 Intrigue #11278

bRUCE

2001 iNTRIGUE #11278

Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #35 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54932
Buck and Don you both have some good ideas along with alot of other folks. A Data Base of Owners willing to share Info, Drawings, etc is surely obtainable. A Data Base of CC Techs is a great idea especially in Coach Assembly and Service. I haven't read about anyone having much info on how our Coaches are assembled. For those of you on the West Coast you could have Techs within reasonable reach. For us on the East Coast it would be great just to email or Phone a Tech for assistance and guildance. Bet a lot of these CC Techs have contacts across the Country and could point where to go and who to see. It would be great not to go into a repair shop blind and being at the shops mercy. Provided with info knowing exactly what the problem is and where to look would be a great help to the Owner and Repair Facility. My gut tells me some of you reading this very Website are the very Techs that built and serviced our Coaches. This could be a good opportunity for you to start a Web Based/Service Business on the side. For those of us who repair and service our Coaches you would be a valuable asset.

Pete Sarno
Stuart, Fla
'02 Magna #6110

Re: Historical records and data files

Reply #36 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54942
Mike, I suspect we are all going to find that some items, when they fail, are going to be more than irritating to replace or repair.

Rich 2002 Magna
 

Re: Do we need the Historical records and data files?

Reply #37 –
Yahoo Message Number: 54980
The last Country Coach on the road. Now that's a sad thought! I wonder if Mel Gibson will be driving it?

ddtuttle

aka Billy Byte (trusty hound)
2000 Allure #30443