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Re: motorhome registration - state restrictions

Reply #25 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88233
Why not just pay the fees and travel worry and hassle free? Living in one state and having the coach in another state is a hassle (I store mine 200 miles from my home and it is still a hassle even in the same state). Paying penalties is also not a happy prospect if one gets caught. Is it really worth it? In this case, Washington charges a hefty use tax and that helps to finance the state services that all residences partake of...seems only fair as an offset to no income tax.

Dave Glen

'06 Magna 6591

Re: motorhome registration - state restrictions

Reply #26 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88249
yep that is what I have heard, which is why we will never bring the coach into the state of WA... no need really... our goal is to RV in the southern states in winters anyhow so when we go home we will most likely fly home from wherever and leave the coach in storage in the south,., whether AZ, CA, TX, Florida.... all of the above in different years. As for different plates, well it will be outside the state of WA in the first place but in any case we don't tow our care very often anyway. Our primary goal in travel is sailing... so one of us tows the boat and the other drives the other vehicle separately... can't tow both behind the coach :-)

jb

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Reply #27 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88251
NM has some funny rules, you might be able to tow a pickup behind the coach pulling boat of reasonable size. TWI 2004 intrigue 11731

Re: motorhome registration - state restrictions

Reply #28 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88252
Washington's USE tax is just that... it is a tax for *using* the coach or the boat in the state. Since our focus with the coach is touring in the SOUTH in winter, we have no intention of ever bringing it into the state of washington. And I am certainly not inclined to pay a NO-USE tax of $17,000 when all I need is legal tags on the coach for driving in in the southern states, that's all. And Montana will serve that purpose perfectly. We really have no intention of bringing it back to the NW once we get settled in our new home, but even if we did, we could easily head north up through Boise, Idaho to the panhandle and store it in a facility in Idaho. Liberty Lake is only about 4 miles from the state line... can't really get more convenient than that :-) Oh and by the way, neither Florida nor Texas, both of which have ZERO income tax as well as Washington, charge any sales tax or use tax to register a vehicle you have owned for more than six months which was previously registered in any other state, OR included.

jb

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Reply #29 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88253
Make Washington residence your second.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348

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Reply #30 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88257
Whats the problem with having a vacation home in another state? We had one in MD and one in WV. WV did not try to claim we were residence. So now our vacation home is in GA and the rest of the time our MH is our residence.

Tom

2005 Inspire 51177

Re: motorhome registration - state restrictions

Reply #31 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88260
So, tell me- if you are a resident of, say Arizona, and are driving through Washington state with Montana plates on your motorhome and Arizona plates on your toad, do the taxing and law enforcement folks in Washington have any right to come after you? It seems to me that, in this example, only the state of Arizona has any authority over this hypothetical RVer, insofar as a licensing beef. Right?

Re: motorhome registration - state restrictions

Reply #32 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88265
OK! Certainly not my intent to argue an unarguable point. I just believe in paying my fair share to operate/finance the state in which I live. With enough effort, almost anyone can figure out a way to avoid taxes/fees/surcharges, etc---some legal and some illegal. As Will entitled one of his plays, "As You Like It".

Dave Glen

'06 Magna 6591

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Reply #33 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88266
I'am a resident of Arizona, my coach is licensed in Montana under a LLC, I previously for 18 years lived in Montana. The law states as long as your motorhome is out of the state for 6 months or half the year you have no problem. I do also have property in Washington state and go there every summer. Never had a problem and yes my toad has Arizona plates.
Jim 2006 allure 430 #31317

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Reply #34 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88275
LLC is a federally recognized legal entity so I don't think WA has much to say about the matter. The may try to get at the matter thru some other means. For example, in AZ if the vehicle remains in the state for more than 6 months I believe they can require that it be registered. This still does not change the legal ownership or get at sales taxes but they do have a right to require it to be registered and that gives them the registration fee revenue.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348 (self-taught lawyer)

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Reply #35 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88290
Of course it needs to be registered in some state, and you or the LLC will need a legal mailing address in that state. Most states force in state registration once the vehicle remains in that state for more than 6 months. You can travel to any other state without concern, as long as it is not a state that YOU are a legal resident of. Obviously, select a state with no sales tax. I did register in Florida, and paid sales tax. Stupid...but over.

Scott

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Reply #36 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88292
Dave,

I agree with you in "paying our fair share" in whatever we do. There are so many freeloaders in our country now, that those of us that can, should do what is right. We did the South Dakota thing for a few years but now register and pay all of our fees in Washington State. It costs more but it feels right!

Ricardo

04 Intrigue #11830

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Reply #37 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88347
I pay property tax to fund libraries, schools, sewers, and who knows what else.
I pay sales tax to fund police and fire protection and who knows what else.
I pay gasoline and diesel tax to fund road upkeep and construction and who knows what else.
I pay state income tax to fund only God knows what.
I pay all sorts of hidden fees, and some not so hidden, to various levels of government.
I pay vehicle registration fees for two cars.
The motor home registration fee is, in my understanding, to pay for my use of the state roads. I drive my motorhome on state roads six days a year, when I'm leaving on a trip and when I'm returning from a trip. For the mathematically challenged, that is three trips per year. Some years we only make two trips. For that, Colorado thinks my fair share is more than $5,000 per year registration fee.
Ponder that. I did.

Notice that I didn't say what I did about it. But I will say, I do believe I am paying my fair share, maybe even part of someone else's fair share.
At some point you have to say, "Enough is enough".
Jim Biestek

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Reply #38 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88348
Well stated, Jim..............perhaps even understated. I agree more than wholeheartedly!
The time may be approaching when the folks who are paying the freight for, not only themselves, but for countless non-contributory slugs as well, is coming to a head. (Think the current runaway IRS shenanigans and various corruption.)
A wise man once said: "The characteristics of the kingdom emanate from the king".

Dave Trotter

01 Intrigue 11215

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Reply #39 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88350
WOW. After reading all the input on the different state RV taxes i now realize we have it pretty good here in Okla. It cost me around 9K when I brought the 06 Affinity (new to me) into the state for title and Registration. I thought it extremely rough on my wallet. But the following year the tags will be around $180.00 for the rest of my ownership. Another really big surprise was to find out that to drive this 45,000# machine down the hwy I was not required to have any type of CDL or air brake certification. Go figure.
OJinOK

06 AFfinity.

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Reply #41 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88365
Stop wasting the money I already give then perhaps I would pay more.
Tom

2005 Inspire
 

Motorhome registration

Reply #42 –
Yahoo Message Number: 88248
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I am always amazed that a person that can afford a $500,000 motor home  can't afford the associated taxes.
If I may add, irreligiously, amen!  The number of people on this and other CC lists that have asked for information about how to avoid taxes is rather astounding to me.  They must own Apple stock and use that as an example for how an American citizen should express his patriotism.

One has to pay his share in order to live in a civilized society.  In Greece, for example, 35% of the people (and businesses, I understand) are failing to pay their taxes.  The Greek financial dilemma has implications for our very own banking system, which has lent (at sometimes exorbitant rates) money to Greece, which money is now in peril because of the banks' very own greed.

I do not hold out any hope, however, that the situation will change.  Greed is most pervasive.

Ken
'04 Allure (31035)